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And is the basket in the process of being dropped with growth?
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The rating agencies are a secondary issue, the primary one is reducing the deficit and therefore? The poll is redundant as George hasn't put all his eggs into one basket with the rating agencies the cuts would have made little....
Http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...adle-democracy Some other way must be found to help the Greeks, or next time it could turn into real violence with pro austerity politicians being targeted, along with bombings and shootings in the streets like we...
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I have a feeling there are a lot.
Collapse into civil war and its average growth rate in the last 10 years is 7% iirc.
No at all. Rating agencies merely rate the strength of a company. If a company has been weakened by poor lending decisions, that is the fault of the company, not the rating agency.
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Credit rating agencies rate into and then resold....
First, they do rate credit into bonds that are backed by the cash flows from a bundle of loans.
Rating agencies played (at least) two roles in the sub prime market.
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Article: SEC to Hold Rating Agencies Accountable... It's easy to understand that the investment banks couldn't bite the hand that feeds them. "Justice is slow, but justice is Just" (yea right)... Article: http://www.gobankingrates.com/mortgage-rates/sec...
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~Tim~ Eye Candy : Why Whimsy Rating these loans properly would have kept them down.
Doesn't see the cliff.
Are they tools used by American banks to regulate the Worlds economy ? All three of the agencies got it stupendously wrong pre 2007-2008, with the sub prime, but walked away as if nothing had happened, how did that happen? Who controls their evaluations...
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Credit rating agencies are the old ....
If they'd have been doing their job been kind of unfair for the LEDCs (less economically developed countries) imho .
: : Credit rating agencies are the old bad guys, but the new good guys.
That's one in the eye for the ratings agencies http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/artic...ens_id=1170028 So France lost its AAA rating and the economy grew, notably in the last quarter. Seems a downgrading by Standard and Poor may not be a bad thing, after...
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Neither, for that....
I agree the forecasts were negative, but France isn't in recession .
But surely that should take into account the state of the economy .
I'm pretty sure the downgrade was due to the Euro situation and their exposure to potential losses .
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:15:46 +0000, Stray Dog <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org There were many WSJ articles exposing many of the rating agencies because the R&D guys (who were supposed to do _real_ research) were administratively located within the...
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In response to your other mail "there's no grounds to sue them", i'd like to ask - how do these rating agencies make their money? If their services are contracted i,e lenders paying....
Nobody needs credit rating agencies.
On the 31st of August 2010, the American Securities and Exchange Commission issued one of the first reports on the causes of the financial crisis, a report stating the credit rating agency Moody’s committed fraud againt Europe's financial sector. Moody...
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The original business model for the rating agencies, established when John Moody published the first publicly agencies,....
To see that there is still some doubt on the devastating role that that credit rating agencies.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:13:51 -0800 (PST), fruitella <visualseeplus@yahoo.com The only explaination can be that they are in collusion with the US govt. in perpetrating international fraud. Either that or they are grossly incompetent. What reason...
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Rating agencies were never a substitute for due.
Neoclassical economics isn't against the law.
"Thank you for calling Moody's," says the automated voice. "Your call may be recorded for quality purposes. If you would like a rating, press one." I press one. There is a brief musical interlude. "Hello, Moody's," says another voice, eventually. "What...
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The Rating Agencies agencies lies not so much in their alleged malpractice or negligence, but in the sheer impossibility of rating creditworthiness....
I actually agree with you.
Pertaining to debt levels/repayment to coalesces.
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