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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:54:35 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:37:28 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
All LEGALLY-performed marriages would HAVE to be, based on
the recent California Supreme Court decision to allow all of the
18,000 of them that had been performed THERE would stand and
continue to be honored. HOW could California REJECT *other*
legally-married same-sex couples while harboring and recognizing
18,000 other ones. It would be totally inconsistent. The California
Supreme Court has already ADMITTED and VERIFIED that *legally*
married same -sex couple retain that status in California.
"Tomorrow," figuratively speaking. Since NO LATER than 2012
will Californians SURELY *reject* and REPEAL Proposition Hate. And
with goo luck, that will happen NEXT year. And that will END that
hate-agenda FOREVER in our most populous state.
Six feet under. R.I.P. NO loss.
Wrong. It was a rhetorical question. (I really have to keep
reminding myself that such subtleties as that, and analogies, just
SAIL right over the heads of almost all bigots. Bigots aren't very
bright. Bigotry and intelligence don't go together. Bigotry is
totally IRRATIONAL... and STUPID.
I have often asked bigots just what is IN it for them to be such
social retards. What do they hope to GAIN by seeking to DENY
reasonable personal liberties to millions of people for NO good
reason? Know something? NO bigot has EVER yet been able to
give ANY answer to that question -- much less a rational one.
See above. Denying legitimacy to other LEGALLY-married same-
sex couples would CONFLICT completely with their recognition of
the LEGALLY-married-in-California ones.
I am very PROUDLY an ALLY of the gays in Civil Rights Move-
ment II.
Just as are MILLIONS of other straights, as we just saw in
California. UNLESS, of course, you are prepared to claim that all
48% of the voters there who REJECTED Proposition Hate are GAY.
Which is it?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
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http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:37:49 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
You aren't answering the question. 18,000 homosexual marriages
performed in California are recognized as valid. California has made
such marriages illegal but will continue to recognize the 18,000.
There is nothing to indicate that homosexual marriages performed in
other states would be recognized in California. Indeed, there is every
indication that such marriages performed elsewhere cannot be recognized
in California.
There is no figuratively speaking. They could not marry yesterday.
They could not marry today and they will not be able to marry tomorrow.
That is the reality and the correct answer to the question I posed.
There is no "Proposition Hate". There is only the very real and legal
Proposition 8. You don't like it and you've decided to screech and
squeal about it here. Tough.
Priceless!
Most populous has nothing to do with anything. The people of California
spoke. They decided against your opinion. You can't deal with it.
I'm six feet under 12'3".
Actually, Bubbles, you demonstrate all of the qualities which define the
word, "bigot", in both the real definition and the one you have
presented here.
But, Bubbles, you have yet to be able to put together a reasonable
question. You can take the one with "social retards" in it and shove it
up your ass. Oh! That's right, you'd consider that a treat.
You aren't a California court and you are not quoting one. You're
simply spouting bafflegab.
My choice is "neither". They aren't homosexual and you aren't heterosexual.
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:33:00 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:37:49 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
YOU are missing the point. For as long as Proposition Hate survives,
it will be illegal for wedding ceremonies to be PERFORMED in California
for same-sex couples. But the LEGALLY-wedded same-sex couples have
been declared legally married. Thus. LEGALLY married couples from
elsewhere coming to California would HAVE to be accorded the SAME
rights. Otherwise, there would be a HUGE contradiction.
There is NO reason to think that two LEGALLY-married same-sex
couples could live next door to one another with one couple having
rights and the other being *deprived* of rights. That would be ludicrous!
Figuratively, "yesterday" was in most of 2008. And 'tomorrow" will
be in 2010 or 2012, after the REPEAL of Proposition Hate.
What COUNTS is that before very long they WILL be able to get married
in California again -- and thereafter NEVER lose that right again. It will
spell the END of the loathsome and ignorant agenda of the homophobic
bigots.
Until it's REPEALED, there is. Proposition 8 is the distilled ESSENCE
of unconscionable and ignorant hatefulness
<bullcrap whinings from LOSER-to-be, flushed
<bullcrap-flush
ROTFL!!! I've never met a bigot yet who wasn't DELUSIONAL.
The way to determine if a person is a bigot is very EASY.
(1) Does he DEFEND across-the-board EQUAL rights for ALL
people? If so, he's a sensible, fair-minded, compassionate,
and intelligent EGALITARIAN.
(2) Does he seek to DENY access to ANY personal liberties to
ANY group of people that the rest of society has ready
access to? If so, he's a hateful, loathsome, and ignorant
BIGOT.
I am happy to be (1). You, very SADLY, are (2).
Actually, that statement is 100% TRUE. Bigots ARE social retards.
And very IGNORANT ones at that. Bigotry is incompatible with intel-
ligence.
Watch and see what happens IF *that* right were ALSO to
be denied to Californians! I doubt that will ever happen.
Your ABJECT ignorance is AGAIN noted and spotlighted.
THAKS for this additional CONTRIBUTION to the DEMISE of the
hate-agendas of America's bigots, per the SIG, below. Much
appreciated!!
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT All RRR & LDS Cult Agendas NOW!
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
A Big "THANK YOU!!" to the RRR Cult Lemmings Who Post
Their Ludicrous and Control-Freakish Hate-Swill in Here ---
The MORE that society sees the speciousness, inanities, lies,
desperation to be control-freakish, and abject STUPIDITY of losers
like you, the FASTER its consciousness will be raised to the point of
critical mass at which it will flatly and dramatically REJECT the RRR
Cult's loathsome agendas and relegate them to the bottom of the
Drain of Extinction -- where they can moulder forevermore with the
bones of the agendas of the EQUALLY moronic and hateful segre-
gationists.
So by your continuing to drive nails this way into the coffin lid
of those hate-agendas so publicly, and thus keep REMINDING us
of the hatefulness and stupidity of your ilk, you ARE, albeit unwit-
tingly, doing society a service!
And the FUNNIEST part of all this is that I need have no qualms
at telling you this, lest you stop providing such examples, because
all of the RRR Cult lemmings who post such swill in Usenet, or any-
where else, are too bone-IGNORANT to REALIZE that they're
accomplishing that for society... and will just keep right on pushing
their own agendas ever closer to their very much-deserved demise.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:19:17 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
I've missed no point. I've addressed the point a number of times and
you've offered no proof of your silly claim. There is nothing which
would mandate that California recognize any homosexual marriages other
than the specific number performed within the state during a specific
period.
There is ALREADY a contradiction.
No, you say. They could not marry today. That is correct.
They could not marry tomorrow. There is no indication that they will be
able to marry the following day or the day after that. So, NO, you say.
That is correct.
No, you say. That is correct. They could not marry yesterday or the
day before or the day before. You get the idea.
That may be in Fantasyland but it doesn't happen to be true in
California. There isn't a "before long". There doesn't appear to be a
"will be able to get married" and it does not appear that there is a
"NEVER lose that right again" either.
I've already seen the END of the loathsome and perverse agenda of the
homosexual bigots.
If something doesn't exist, it cannot be repealed.
That is incorrect. Things didn't work out per your desires and you're
being an unpleasant loser with PMS.
Did the whinings include your use of "goo luck", Bubbles?
deal
So you HAVE taken your statement and shoved it up your ass and you *did*
consider it a treat. Bravo!
Again, you are not a California court and you have not quote one.
You continue to lack proof for your claims.
You've not contradicted my statement, Bubbles.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:14:18 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:19:17 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
See "No One's" response to you.
You are QUITE the IGNORAMUS, aren't you?
Tell me -- just what is IN it for you to be such a hateful bastard?
What do you hope to GAIN by opposing this HARMLESS personal liberty
and in the process making such a complete FOOL of yourself. MOST
people don't make complete fools of themselves the way YOU have been
doing without having some sort of "reason" for being such an asshole.
The BAN on same-sex marriage that hatefully and irrationally
EXCLUDES a group of people EXISTS. And it WILL be repealed.
Hopefully as soon as NEXT year! NEVER to be heard from again.
<stupidity-flush
[[[ READERS -- Take note. ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
See the response to you by "No One."
READERS... see also:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
THANKS for your CONTRIBUTION to the consciousness-raising of
society to the IDIOCY of the homophobic bigots, per the SIG, below!
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT All RRR & LDS Cult Agendas NOW!
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
A Big "THANK YOU!!" to the RRR Cult Lemmings Who Post
Their Ludicrous and Control-Freakish Hate-Swill in Here ---
The MORE that society sees the speciousness, inanities, lies,
desperation to be control-freakish, and abject STUPIDITY of losers
like you, the FASTER its consciousness will be raised to the point of
critical mass at which it will flatly and dramatically REJECT the RRR
Cult's loathsome agendas and relegate them to the bottom of the
Drain of Extinction -- where they can moulder forevermore with the
bones of the agendas of the EQUALLY moronic and hateful segre-
gationists.
So by your continuing to drive nails this way into the coffin lid
of those hate-agendas so publicly, and thus keep REMINDING us
of the hatefulness and stupidity of your ilk, you ARE, albeit unwit-
tingly, doing society a service!
And the FUNNIEST part of all this is that I need have no qualms
at telling you this, lest you stop providing such examples, because
all of the RRR Cult lemmings who post such swill in Usenet, or any-
where else, are too bone-IGNORANT to REALIZE that they're
accomplishing that for society... and will just keep right on pushing
their own agendas ever closer to their very much-deserved demise.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:56:17 -0400, "Chairman MaObama" <...@acorn.com
We don't give a shit what you queers do, but we are sick of it always being
stuck right in our faces.
You pushed we shoved back, don't you know normal society doesn't support
your crap.
Quit bitching about it, the world doesn't owe you anything and you're not
special either.
Most of us are sick of you and your agenda.
"(`.Craig Chilton.) .. WHY be Unemployed? <...@4ax.com...
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:05:14 -0700, No One <...@nospam.pacbell.net
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)--WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
[in a reply to a homophobe]
This is actually not the case for technical reasons. See
<http://ask.metafilter.com/103881/Does-CAs-Proposition-8-infringe-on-the-Bill-of -Rights
It seems that regardless of Proposition Eight, religious institutions
can perform same-sex marriage ceremonies. What Proposition Eight does
is to prevent such marriages from being valid or recognized in the
legal sense of those words.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:03:27 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
I've missed no point. I've addressed the point a number of times and
you've offered no proof of your silly claim. There is nothing which
would mandate that California recognize any homosexual marriages other
than the specific number performed within the state during a specific
period.
There is ALREADY a contradiction.
No, you say. They could not marry today. That is correct.
They could not marry tomorrow. There is no indication that they will be
able to marry the following day or the day after that. So, NO, you say.
That is correct.
No, you say. That is correct. They could not marry yesterday or the
day before or the day before. You get the idea.
That may be in Fantasyland but it doesn't happen to be true in
California. There isn't a "before long". There doesn't appear to be a
"will be able to get married" and it does not appear that there is a
"NEVER lose that right again" either.
I've already seen the END of the loathsome and perverse agenda of the
homosexual bigots.
If something doesn't exist, it cannot be repealed.
That is incorrect. Things didn't work out per your desires and you're
being an unpleasant loser with PMS.
Did the whinings include your use of "goo luck", Bubbles?
deal
So you HAVE taken your statement and shoved it up your ass and you *did*
consider it a treat. Bravo!
Again, you are not a California court and you have not quote one.
You continue to lack proof for your claims.
You've not contradicted my statement, Bubbles.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:53:23 -0700, No One <...@nospam.pacbell.net
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
Not exactly - The May 2008 California Supreme Court ruling was about
rights granted by the California Constitution, not rights enjoyed only
by California citizens. That ruling required that marriages performed
elsewhere also be recognized.
The recent court ruling stated:
Finally, we consider whether Proposition 8 affects the validity of
the marriages of same-sex couples that were performed prior to the
adoption of Proposition 8. Applying well-established legal
principles pertinent to the question whether a constitutional
provision should be interpreted to apply prospectively or
retroactively, we conclude that the new section cannot properly be
interpreted to apply retroactively. Accordingly, the marriages of
same-sex couples performed prior to the effective date of
Proposition 8 remain valid and must continue to be recognized in
this state.
In other words, same-sex couples married out-of-state before
Proposition Eight passed must be considered legally married - otherwise
Proposition Eight would apply retroactively to some individuals,
creating equal-protection issues.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:12:26 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:03:27 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
See "No One's" response to you.
You are QUITE the IGNORAMUS, aren't you?
Tell me -- just what is IN it for you to be such a hateful bastard?
What do you hope to GAIN by opposing this HARMLESS personal liberty
and in the process making such a complete FOOL of yourself. MOST
people don't make complete fools of themselves the way YOU have been
doing without having some sort of "reason" for being such an asshole.
The BAN on same-sex marriage that hatefully and irrationally
EXCLUDES a group of people EXISTS. And it WILL be repealed.
Hopefully as soon as NEXT year! NEVER to be heard from again.
<stupidity-flush
[[[ READERS -- Take note. ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
See the response to you by "No One."
READERS... see also:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
THANKS for your CONTRIBUTION to the consciousness-raising of
society to the IDIOCY of the homophobic bigots, per the SIG, below!
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT All RRR & LDS Cult Agendas NOW!
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
A Big "THANK YOU!!" to the RRR Cult Lemmings Who Post
Their Ludicrous and Control-Freakish Hate-Swill in Here ---
The MORE that society sees the speciousness, inanities, lies,
desperation to be control-freakish, and abject STUPIDITY of losers
like you, the FASTER its consciousness will be raised to the point of
critical mass at which it will flatly and dramatically REJECT the RRR
Cult's loathsome agendas and relegate them to the bottom of the
Drain of Extinction -- where they can moulder forevermore with the
bones of the agendas of the EQUALLY moronic and hateful segre-
gationists.
So by your continuing to drive nails this way into the coffin lid
of those hate-agendas so publicly, and thus keep REMINDING us
of the hatefulness and stupidity of your ilk, you ARE, albeit unwit-
tingly, doing society a service!
And the FUNNIEST part of all this is that I need have no qualms
at telling you this, lest you stop providing such examples, because
all of the RRR Cult lemmings who post such swill in Usenet, or any-
where else, are too bone-IGNORANT to REALIZE that they're
accomplishing that for society... and will just keep right on pushing
their own agendas ever closer to their very much-deserved demise.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:23:53 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:03:27 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
See "No One's" response to you.
You are QUITE the IGNORAMUS, aren't you?
Tell me -- just what is IN it for you to be such a hateful bastard?
What do you hope to GAIN by opposing this HARMLESS personal liberty
and in the process making such a complete FOOL of yourself. MOST
people don't make complete fools of themselves the way YOU have been
doing without having some sort of "reason" for being such an asshole.
The BAN on same-sex marriage that hatefully and irrationally
EXCLUDES a group of people EXISTS. And it WILL be repealed.
Hopefully as soon as NEXT year! NEVER to be heard from again.
<stupidity-flush
[[[ READERS -- Take note. ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
See the response to you by "No One."
READERS... see also:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
THANKS for your CONTRIBUTION to the consciousness-raising of
society to the IDIOCY of the homophobic bigots, per the SIG, below!
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT All RRR & LDS Cult Agendas NOW!
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
A Big "THANK YOU!!" to the RRR Cult Lemmings Who Post
Their Ludicrous and Control-Freakish Hate-Swill in Here ---
The MORE that society sees the speciousness, inanities, lies,
desperation to be control-freakish, and abject STUPIDITY of losers
like you, the FASTER its consciousness will be raised to the point of
critical mass at which it will flatly and dramatically REJECT the RRR
Cult's loathsome agendas and relegate them to the bottom of the
Drain of Extinction -- where they can moulder forevermore with the
bones of the agendas of the EQUALLY moronic and hateful segre-
gationists.
So by your continuing to drive nails this way into the coffin lid
of those hate-agendas so publicly, and thus keep REMINDING us
of the hatefulness and stupidity of your ilk, you ARE, albeit unwit-
tingly, doing society a service!
And the FUNNIEST part of all this is that I need have no qualms
at telling you this, lest you stop providing such examples, because
all of the RRR Cult lemmings who post such swill in Usenet, or any-
where else, are too bone-IGNORANT to REALIZE that they're
accomplishing that for society... and will just keep right on pushing
their own agendas ever closer to their very much-deserved demise.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:23:59 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
You're no one enough for me.
No, Bubbles, I'm not going to be steamrollered by the likes of you.
I've never been a hateful bastard in my life. I'm not going to be
steamrollered and have you militant types, making up perhaps 3% of this
country, set the agenda for the rest of us.
You've not identified a harmless personal liberty. I believe that
neither two men nor two women nor two men and a Hotpoint dishwasher can
be married. It isn't moral. It isn't ethical. It isn't a good thing
for society.
Nobody in this particular newsgroup, does a better job of making a fool
of himself than you, Bubbles. You do this upper case, ranting and come
off looking like someone dealing with a very large bout of PMS.
Why don't you tell us why you do it?
Irrationally? It excludes people other than one man and one woman.
That's what a marriage is. The people of California agree. The
California courts agree.
There's no indication that is going to happen.
You're making a spectacle of yourself, Bubbles.
What you've done is remove words you can't deal with. You've buried
your head in the sand. Good luck with having that accomplish something.
I kinda like that flush thing, Bubbles.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:20:48 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:23:59 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
Really? YOU are the inferiority-complex infested little dweeb who
thinks he can elevate himself by calling other people by childish names...
and thus is too bone-DUMB to realize he's only making a public laughing-
stock of himself. LOL!!! You are truly a joke. And people laugh AT
jokes.
You're a homophobic bigot who advocates the DENIAL of a
reasonable right to millions of people for NO good reason. THAT
makes you a hateful (and very IGNORANT) bastard.
Awww. What's next? "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhhhh!!!!!" (?)
ROTFL!!! The *gays* ALONE, not even counting us straight
ALLIES of them in Civil Rights Movement II, comprise FIVE percent\
of the population. And in California, that combination comprised a
full 48% of the voters, last November. NEXT time, we'll be the
MAJORITY, and homophobic bigotry in California will become EXTINCT:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
And CLUE for you, CLUELESS wonder: Once same-sex marriage
becomes universally legal (as it surely WILL -- soon!), it will NO more
"set ANY agenda" for you than stamp collectors do by collecting
stamps. Man, you are REALLY a MORON!
Your "belief" ion such IDIOTIC control-freakishness and a nickel
is worth precisely 5 pieces of penny candy, and NOTHING more.
Your IDIOTIC "belief" is as moronic as was the "belief" on the
part of segregationists that blacks were not their equals. (Well --
they were PARTLY right about that. MOST blacks were far BETTER
people than the segregationists, The segregationists, JUST like
YOU, and for that SAME sort of specious and vacuous "reasons,"
were moronic LOSERS.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! You are FUNNIER than hell !!!!
BWAHAHAHAhahahahahah!!! Funnier and funnier!!
ROTFL!!!!! Let's see you PROVE that! With FACTS!!!
Lotsa luck! You'll NEED it!
Really? I haven't done that YET -- but YOU just proved yourself a
lying fool TWICE in that one sentence. (Great comic relief!!)
LOL!!! CLUTCH at those straws, clueless wonder -- but when
people start *speaking* in a monotone, without inflections, I'll
start *writing* that way.
Really *short* of FACTS, aren't you?
Same-sex marriage *excludes* NO one. You really ARE a moron.
And providing us all with a whale of a lot of PROOF of that.
AND one man and one man. And one woman and one woman.
Just ask the MILLION or so people in states where it is legal, and in
other entire countries where it is legal. They will all LAUGH right in
your bigoted face. Just as hard as *I* am.
No. Only BIGOTED Californians agree. And NEXT time (hopefully
as soon as next year!), they will be in the MINORITY and LOSE.
Wrong! The California Supreme court declared that ALL 18,000
same-sex couples that were legally married there ARE married, and
will CONTINUE to have that status. You and your moronic ilk LOSE!
LOL!!! Wanna bet? Read THIS:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
...that are VACUOUS, and repetitive. And convey NOTHING more
than the same stupidity you already spouted.
[[[ READERS -- Take note. He's AFRAID
of this, and has omitted it TWICE! ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ROTFL!!! I've never met a bigot yet who wasn't DELUSIONAL.
The way to determine if a person is a bigot is very EASY.
(1) Does he DEFEND across-the-board EQUAL rights for ALL
people? If so, he's a sensible, fair-minded, compassionate,
and intelligent EGALITARIAN.
(2) Does he seek to DENY access to ANY personal liberties to
ANY group of people that the rest of society has ready
access to? If so, he's a hateful, loathsome, and ignorant
BIGOT.
I am happy to be (1). You, very SADLY, are (2).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
READERS... see also:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
THANKS for your CONTRIBUTION to the consciousness-raising of
society to the IDIOCY of the homophobic bigots, per the SIG, below!
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT All RRR & LDS Cult Agendas NOW!
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
A Big "THANK YOU!!" to the RRR Cult Lemmings Who Post
Their Ludicrous and Control-Freakish Hate-Swill in Here ---
The MORE that society sees the speciousness, inanities, lies,
desperation to be control-freakish, and abject STUPIDITY of losers
like you, the FASTER its consciousness will be raised to the point of
critical mass at which it will flatly and dramatically REJECT the RRR
Cult's loathsome agendas and relegate them to the bottom of the
Drain of Extinction -- where they can moulder forevermore with the
bones of the agendas of the EQUALLY moronic and hateful segre-
gationists.
So by your continuing to drive nails this way into the coffin lid
of those hate-agendas so publicly, and thus keep REMINDING us
of the hatefulness and stupidity of your ilk, you ARE, albeit unwit-
tingly, doing society a service!
And the FUNNIEST part of all this is that I need have no qualms
at telling you this, lest you stop providing such examples, because
all of the RRR Cult lemmings who post such swill in Usenet, or any-
where else, are too bone-IGNORANT to REALIZE that they're
accomplishing that for society... and will just keep right on pushing
their own agendas ever closer to their very much-deserved demise.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:22:15 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
"IGNORAMUS", "hateful bastard", "hateful (and very IGNORANT) bastard",
"IDIOTIC control-freakishness". Those are your words from just a couple
of posts. Kindly stow your self-righteousness, Bubbles.
Psssst. No one is really paying any attention except you and you've
been busy having a hissy fit.
A reasonable right? No good reason? This society is based upon a
marriage of a man and a woman. That is fundamental. It is the basis of
the family. This society is currently under attack by the likes of you.
I do not "fear same" or fear you. Find a word expressing my disgust.
I uttered no wail of anguish. I expressed a view and did it with
precision and no upper case words.
Prove it. Prove the number of allies you claim.
African Americans overwhelmingly reject your claim to ties to the only
Civil Rights Movement we've had.
You're simply blowing smoke, Bubbles. You haven't the numbers and there
isn't even an indication that it'll appear on a ballot any time soon.
I'm afraid you've been set up: I'm not required to prove a negative.
In debate, the onus would be on you to prove that homosexual marriage
would be 1) moral, 2) ethical and/or 3) a good thing for society.
Hop to it, Bubbles.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:22:41 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:22:15 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
... all are ACCURATE DESCRIPTORS that losers like you first
have to EARN by PROVING themselves to be such, in their posts,
*before* I apply them. You *succeeded* in doing that, admirably!
Wrong. Society is a very COMPLEX structure that includes
MYRIADS of aspects, which *includes* that one. Same-sex marriage
would have ZERO adverse income on EITHER opposite-sex marriage
or society. It is 100% HARLESS. And for that reason, America's
SENSIBLE people recognize that the loons who are so vacuously and
cluelessly WHINING about it are complete FOOLS.
No. Family UNITS are the basis of the family. That includes hundreds
of thousands of gay couples, married or unmarried, and hundreds of
thousands of gay singles and couples who *have* KIDS. With or without
gays having access to legal same-sex marriage, THAT is the CURRENT
REALITY. And it is harming NO one. And fortunately, there is NOT ONE
SINGLE DAMNED THING that you or any other homophobic dolt can do
to change that situation one whit!
And you and your ilk wonder why INTELLIGENT people recognize that
bigots like you are DOLTS.
Quite the OPPOSITE. Egalitarians like me are America's primary
DEFENDERS of many personal liberties that jerks like you so hatefully
and ignorantly seek to DENY to millions of people. Guess what? You lose!
No. Not yet. As WHINEY as you are, in the pursuit of your bigoted
agendas as they swirl down the Drain of Extinction, THAT is probably
what you'll be doing (at least, in your mind), AFTER those hate-agendas
are GONE, forevermore.
Your inability to express inflections in writing is not my problem.
As hypocritical as 70% of blacks in California were who voted
for Proposition Hate... THIRTY PERCENT of them were either gays
or ALLIES of the gays, by voting *against* it.
Your immaturity and inferiority complex is again duly noted.
It WILL be on the ballot either next year or in 2012, and the
bigots WILL *lose* on that one. Forevermore.
Too bad you're too IGNORANT (as proven by you being a bigot)
to understand TRENDS, you would *understand* what the
TREND map in this site MEANS to losers like you:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
[[[ READERS -- Take note. He's AFRAID of
this, and has omitted it THREE times! ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ROTFL!!! I've never met a bigot yet who wasn't DELUSIONAL.
The way to determine if a person is a bigot is very EASY.
(1) Does he DEFEND across-the-board EQUAL rights for ALL
people? If so, he's a sensible, fair-minded, compassionate,
and intelligent EGALITARIAN.
(2) Does he seek to DENY access to ANY personal liberties to
ANY group of people that the rest of society has ready
access to? If so, he's a hateful, loathsome, and ignorant
BIGOT.
I am happy to be (1). You, very SADLY, are (2).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
-- Craig Chilton <...@mchsi.com
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:49:23 -0400, "Chairman MaObama" <...@acorn.com
Dude, you don't get it do you?
Most normal people are not interested in the Gay agenda and are sick of this
crap stuck constantly in their faces.
The more you try to twist our arms , moan, bitch and complain the angrier we
get.
Those of us that "don't care" what you do in your life soon become fed up
with your lifestyle and start making a firm stand to keep you people in
check.
It's like give an inch and you want to take a mile, we all know this.
Why don't you people just go away?
Move to another country that will allow you to fuck each other on the
streets and molest kids.
We don't want you around or near most of us.
"(`.Craig Chilton.) .. WHY be Unemployed? <...@4ax.com...
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:30:32 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:22:15 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
... all are ACCURATE DESCRIPTORS that losers like you first
have to EARN by PROVING themselves to be such, in their posts,
*before* I apply them. You *succeeded* in doing that, admirably!
Wrong. Society is a very COMPLEX structure that includes
MYRIADS of aspects, which *includes* that one. Same-sex marriage
would have ZERO adverse income on EITHER opposite-sex marriage
or society. It is 100% HARLESS. And for that reason, America's
SENSIBLE people recognize that the loons who are so vacuously and
cluelessly WHINING about it are complete FOOLS.
No. Family UNITS are the basis of the family. That includes hundreds
of thousands of gay couples, married or unmarried, and hundreds of
thousands of gay singles and couples who *have* KIDS. With or without
gays having access to legal same-sex marriage, THAT is the CURRENT
REALITY. And it is harming NO one. And fortunately, there is NOT ONE
SINGLE DAMNED THING that you or any other homophobic dolt can do
to change that situation one whit!
And you and your ilk wonder why INTELLIGENT people recognize that
bigots like you are DOLTS.
Quite the OPPOSITE. Egalitarians like me are America's primary
DEFENDERS of many personal liberties that jerks like you so hatefully
and ignorantly seek to DENY to millions of people. Guess what? You lose!
No. Not yet. As WHINEY as you are, in the pursuit of your bigoted
agendas as they swirl down the Drain of Extinction, THAT is probably
what you'll be doing (at least, in your mind), AFTER those hate-agendas
are GONE, forevermore.
Your inability to express inflections in writing is not my problem.
As hypocritical as 70% of blacks in California were who voted
for Proposition Hate... THIRTY PERCENT of them were either gays
or ALLIES of the gays, by voting *against* it.
Your immaturity and inferiority complex is again duly noted.
It WILL be on the ballot either next year or in 2012, and the
bigots WILL *lose* on that one. Forevermore.
Too bad you're too IGNORANT (as proven by you being a bigot)
to understand TRENDS, you would *understand* what the
TREND map in this site MEANS to losers like you:
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
[[[ READERS -- Take note. He's AFRAID of
this, and has omitted it THREE times! ]]] ---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ROTFL!!! I've never met a bigot yet who wasn't DELUSIONAL.
The way to determine if a person is a bigot is very EASY.
(1) Does he DEFEND across-the-board EQUAL rights for ALL
people? If so, he's a sensible, fair-minded, compassionate,
and intelligent EGALITARIAN.
(2) Does he seek to DENY access to ANY personal liberties to
ANY group of people that the rest of society has ready
access to? If so, he's a hateful, loathsome, and ignorant
BIGOT.
I am happy to be (1). You, very SADLY, are (2).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Rest in Peace
George Richard Tiller, MD
August 8, 1941 May 31, 2009
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
-- Craig Chilton <...@mchsi.com
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:29:40 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
Up yours, Bubbles. Oh, that's right--it's already been done.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:29:07 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:29:40 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
[ ... ]
Great... er... "rebuttal." With losers like you around, no one
will ever forget that all homophobic bigots are DOLTS.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:23:32 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
I don't fear you or homosexuality, you simpleton. Find a word which
expresses my revulsion.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:42:45 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
Head down to the big box store and grab a case of *family units*.
Families consist of single people living alone? I don't think so.
Families consist of two daddies and two mommies? I don't think so.
Homosexuals of the same sex may have children living with them, but they
are not *their* children.
That's fantasyland.
That's what you say. Others disagree with you.
You just don't know when to clam up, do you Bubbles? There are things
which can be done. One of them took place in California just recently.
You don't like it.
Ilk? Oh, I don't have any ilk.
Egalitarians? You are anything but. You can't even accept that others
have different view than yours--that they disagree with you strongly.
Your entire shtick here is name-calling, insults, demonizing and trying
shout down anyone who disagrees with you.
That's not going to work.
You've provided no proof. Do you not understand English?
You're whistling in the dark, Bubbles.
Ahhhh! Homosexual marriage is very TRENDY. All the gays...er, guys are
doing it.
In debate, one can't prove a negative. The onus of proof is on you.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:09:24 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:42:45 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
[ ... ]
Neither do I. Every type of family unit I just listed consisted
of **two or more** people.
If they have any KIDS, yes. Otherwise it's husband/husband
and wife/wife.
Many times, one of the parents IS a blood of the child or
children. And... have you ever heard of ADOPTION. Two-father
and two-mother families are IDENTICAL in all important ways to
opposite-sex couples who have adopted children.
Keep trying. But I can ASSURE you that you will NEVER come
up with a valid reason to oppose same-sex marriage.
Like I *care* whether or not drooling dolts disagree with me
or the FACTS. NO *facts* support their vacuous and moronic
stance.
ROTFL!!!! That's the same way the segregationists used to
DELUDE themselves, when *their* equally-loathsome agenda was
at the SAME stage of pre-demise as yours is now. And I very
HAPPILY watched their agenda go down the Drain of Extinction.
JUST as I am enjoying every second of watching the SAME process
happening to *yours*.
Another brilliant "rebuttal," bright light?
Wrong. As I made quite clear BEFORE, in the segment you FEAR
so much that you've omitted it from FOUR of your responses:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The way to determine if a person is a bigot is very EASY.
(1) Does he DEFEND across-the-board EQUAL rights for ALL
people? If so, he's a sensible, fair-minded, compassionate,
and intelligent EGALITARIAN.
(2) Does he seek to DENY access to ANY personal liberties to
ANY group of people that the rest of society has ready
access to? If so, he's a hateful, loathsome, and ignorant
BIGOT.
I am happy to be (1). You, very SADLY, are (2).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<stupidity-flush
YOU obviously don't. I stated the FACTS. If you seek to live in
denial of them, it's up to YOU to prove me wrong.
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
You're WRONG about a MILLION times over by now, in
some U.S. states and SEVERAL egalitarian nations. Those same-
sex couples are 100% MARRIED.
You are really about as CLUELESS as people get. But I've seen
MANY people who were EXACTLY like you are: the segregationists.
Try and find one of those NOW.
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Rest in Peace
George Richard Tiller, MD
August 8, 1941 May 31, 2009
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
-- Craig Chilton <...@mchsi.com
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:42:11 +0000, Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
The part reading "gay singles" and the part reading "and couples who
*have* kids" can be read as two separate groupings.
No, that isn't a family; that is a perversity.
One of the parents. So homosexual couples have not yet figured out how
to procreate.
I have heard of it and I don't believe that two same sex people should
be adopting children.
Then you're missing one very important way.
I disagree. I have provided valid reasons. What you mean is that
you'll never accept such reasons because you have the agenda of trying
to make homosexual marriage look mainstream when it is anything but.
You make up your facts to suit your desires. You reveal yourself when
you fall back into using the "drooling dolts" stuff. You're your own
worst enemy. You aren't winning supporters with that kind of stuff.
I'm no segregationist and you're no Civil Rights Movement. African
Americans resent your attempt to equate their struggle with what you
propose. Your arrogant language rings hollow in light of the recent
California Supreme Court decision.
If we weren't talking about homosexual marriage and you didn't just
witness what took place in upholding the vote of the people, you might
have had a lofty point. That didn't happen.
I have this "ilk" thing. Maybe you want to talk about my running dogs
and their lackeys while you're at it, Comrade Bubbles.
No, it isn't wrong. I read what you wrote. It isn't egalitarian. You
try to shout others down. You call names and use invective. You don't
like it worth a damn when others return fire. Tough.
I've responded to your charges of bigotry earlier. If anyone wants to
see it, all they need do is look at the archives. Just because you
cut-and-paste it over and over and over, does not mean that I plan to
respond to it over and over and over. Deal with it.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:27:56 -0500, No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
anyone leaving the country should take one with them. two if they have
the room.
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:14:39 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:37:28 +0000,
Dave Heil <...@frontiernet.net
All LEGALLY-performed marriages would HAVE to be, based on
the recent California Supreme Court decision to allow all of the
18,000 of them that had been performed THERE would stand and
continue to be honored. HOW could California REJECT *other*
legally-married same-sex couples while harboring and recognizing
18,000 other ones. It would be totally inconsistent. The California
Supreme Court has already ADMITTED and VERIFIED that *legally*
married same -sex couple retain that status in California.
"Tomorrow," figuratively speaking. Since NO LATER than 2012
will Californians SURELY *reject* and REPEAL Proposition Hate. And
with goo luck, that will happen NEXT year. And that will END that
hate-agenda FOREVER in our most populous state.
Six feet under. R.I.P. NO loss.
Wrong. It was a rhetorical question. (I really have to keep
reminding myself that such subtleties as that, and analogies, just
SAIL right over the heads of almost all bigots. Bigots aren't very
bright. Bigotry and intelligence don't go together. Bigotry is
totally IRRATIONAL... and STUPID.
I have often asked bigots just what is IN it for them to be such
social retards. What do they hope to GAIN by seeking to DENY
reasonable personal liberties to millions of people for NO good
reason? Know something? NO bigot has EVER yet been able to
give ANY answer to that question -- much less a rational one.
See above. Denying legitimacy to other LEGALLY-married same-
sex couples would CONFLICT completely with their recognition of
the LEGALLY-married-in-California ones.
I am very PROUDLY an ALLY of the gays in Civil Rights Move-
ment II.
Just as are MILLIONS of other straights, as we just saw in
California. UNLESS, of course, you are prepared to claim that all
48% of the voters there who REJECTED Proposition Hate are GAY.
Which is it?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:32:50 -0500, No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
How do we know they are not ?
Did all people vote ?
what percent of the straights or gays did not vote ? I must conclude
that more gays voted than straights as straights may not care much about
getting out and voting for this stuff.
That 48% of the people who did vote could very well be mostly gays .
Depending on the % of the population that voted.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:26:18 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:32:50 -0500,
No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
[ ... ]
<irrelevant questions flushed, leaving the ONLY relevant one
The percentage who voted is irrelevant whaen one looks
at the NUMBER of people who voted.
At the probable best estimate that 5% of people are born
gay, and the other 95% are born straight, that works out to a
TOTAL of 1,900,000 gay Californians. Maiximum. a number
which INCLUDES the 700,000 or so gays who were too young
to vote.
IF *all* of the gay Californians who were old enough to vote
DID vote (and we know they didn't), that would have been a
MAXIMUM of 1,200,000 gays who could have voted against
Proposition Hate.
HOWEVER -- the actual number of people who DID vote
against Proposition Hate was 6,401,482. That's one hell of a
LOT of egalitarians who were their straight ALLIES, who joined
in that effort.
TOGETHER -- the Gays, and we straight and fair-minded
egalitarians who vastly OUTNUMBER them -- will put an END
*forevermore* to the hate agendas of the ignorant homo-
phobic bigots -- across ALL of America!
Then it'll be GOOD RIDDANCE to that loathsome agenda
against personal liberties!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
-- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <...@mchsi.com
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
http://spifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
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FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
Netherlands (as of 2001)
Belgium (2003)
Massachusetts (2004)
Canada (2005)
Spain (2005)
South Africa (2005)
Norway (2008)
Connecticut (2008)
New York ** (2008)
...and PENDING in 2009.
Iowa (2009)
Vermont (2009)
Sweden (2009)
New Hampshire (2009)
Washington, D.C.** (2009)
Maine (2009)
New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
Hungary: PENDING in April, 2009
New York -- Getting very CLOSE!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:16:57 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:08:52 +0200,
MORONIC BIGOT, BILL TAYLOR, using
another ASININE alias, spewed:
... NOTHING intelligent. As usual.
<hate-garbage flushed. NO FACTS lost.
Previous post follows:
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:32:50 -0500,
No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
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<irrelevant questions flushed, leaving the ONLY relevant one
The percentage who voted is irrelevant whaen one looks
at the NUMBER of people who voted.
At the probable best estimate that 5% of people are born
gay, and the other 95% are born straight, that works out to a
TOTAL of 1,900,000 gay Californians. Maiximum. a number
which INCLUDES the 700,000 or so gays who were too young
to vote.
IF *all* of the gay Californians who were old enough to vote
DID vote (and we know they didn't), that would have been a
MAXIMUM of 1,200,000 gays who could have voted against
Proposition Hate.
HOWEVER -- the actual number of people who DID vote
against Proposition Hate was 6,401,482. That's one hell of a
LOT of egalitarians who were their straight ALLIES, who joined
in that effort.
TOGETHER -- the Gays, and we straight and fair-minded
egalitarians who vastly OUTNUMBER them -- will put an END
*forevermore* to the hate agendas of the ignorant homo-
phobic bigots -- across ALL of America!
Then it'll be GOOD RIDDANCE to that loathsome agenda
against personal liberties!
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REMEMBER DR. TILLER!!
REJECT *ALL* of the RRR & LDS Cults' Hate-Agendas
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-- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <...@mchsi.com
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the RRR Cult!
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FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!
Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY in all these places, and
the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:
( * RRR Cultists: Look up "inexorable." Take it to heart.)
Netherlands (as of 2001)
Belgium (2003)
Massachusetts (2004)
Canada (2005)
Spain (2005)
South Africa (2005)
Norway (2008)
Connecticut (2008)
New York ** (2008)
...and PENDING in 2009.
Iowa (2009)
Vermont (2009)
Sweden (2009)
New Hampshire (2009)
Washington, D.C.** (2009)
Maine (2009)
New Jersey: PENDING in 2009
Hungary: PENDING in April, 2009
New York -- Getting very CLOSE!
** New York State, Rhode Island, Washington, D.C.,
France, and Israel now recognize gay marriages
for couples legally married outside of the
state/district/country.
Gender composition is IRRELEVANT. Expect this to be the case
in almost ALL of the world within a few more years, as its societies
continue to OUTGROW and REJECT mindless bigotries.
The bigots have *already* LOST, and the RATE of their loss
is accelerating. A few years from now, SSM will be legal in ALL
50 states, and people will look back at them and their agenda, and
both will very properly be recalled with the *same* DERISION that
we now hold for the Segregationists and *their* EXTINCT agenda.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:25:30 -0500, No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
That should be a law.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:37:49 -0500, No_He_Can_Not <...@mail.com
So then gays and straights together that voted against the bill were 48%
of the people that voted. That is a close vote. Even when you consider
all the people that did not get out and vote for what ever reason.
the 52% I guess would be a split between those who do not care one way
or the other and those that could not get out and vote for what ever
reason.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:49:41 GMT, "(`.Craig Chilton.) WHY be Unemployed? <www.LayoffRemedy.com
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:37:49 -0500,
"No_He_Can_Not" <...@mail.com
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The BEST news of all is that THIS makes it very clear that the
NEXT time this issue gets on the ballot in California, the BIGOTS
will LOSE! **Permanently!!** ---
http://www.egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html
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