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In article <...@sdf.lonestar.orgStray Dog (Arthur E. Sowers, Art Sowers for short) <...@sdf.lonestar.org posting as Phantom <...@sdf.lonestar.org
Arthur Sowers (Stray Dog)'s deep-seated ill-will against the USA
In article <...@news.suddenlink.net "harmony" <...@hotmail.com
Yes, below is the evidence of the fact that Stray Dog
(Arthur E. Sowers or Art Sowers for short) considers the
Uited States to be a terrorist state, just as Arindam
Banerjee does. When will the antagonism against the US
displayed by Art Sowers and his counterpart turn into
acts of sabotage or violence against the US?
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[ Subject: Re: If you get sick and tired of Rod Speed.....
[ From: Stray Dog <...@sdf.lonestar.org[ Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.fan.jai-
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[ Do you read any of what he writes? If so, how much of
[ what he writes do you read? - Stray Dog
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[ Well, if you read any history of the CIA, which for decades
[ has been involved in undermining any governments not to the
[ "interests of the USA" and carrying out missions to at
[ least some degree outside the knowledge and power of our
[ elected leaders, and very highly kept secret from the
[ American people, and together with the NSA, spying on
[ virtually everyone, and with a budget variously estimated
[ at some $30-35 billion, then the only question is: does
[ Russia or China or _who_ have a bigger budget for their
[ spy/espionage organizations?
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[ The first book I ever read (in 1960s) was "The Invisible
[ Government" by Rose? and Wise? (I could look it up for you)
[ and all about what was known about the CIA. They did a lot
[ of nasty things, some of which came out later, publically,
[ and they were even doing things they were not supposed to
[ be doing. I recall that when the CIA found out this book
[ was coming out, they sent an agent to the publisher
[ offering to buy the whole first printing to keep the book
[ out of the hands of the public. However, today, both the
[ CIA and NSA even have public websites. I have visited them.
[ Be my guest. I'm sure you will not find full disclosures of
[ everything they are doing.
[
[ The British government also attempted to block
[ publication/sale of "Spycatcher" (about British
[ intelligence) in the UK but it appeared elsewhere and I
[ read that book, too.
[
[ Might the hiring, by the US govt, of many (tens of
[ thousands?+/-) Blackwater non-military but well-armed
[ private "assistants" (para-military) to help our "regular"
[ soldiers in Iraq constitute a form of "state-supported"
[ force that could do things that were technically outside
[ the normal international rules of warfare? i.e.
[ "terrorism"? And, I recall some order coming out of Bush
[ 2's office before he went to war with Iraq that he
[ instructed our spy agencies to try to assassinate Saddam.
[
[ Was the supply of weapons to Afghanistan anti-Russian
[ resistance fighters in the '70s+/- a form of unjustified
[ interference in Afghan internal affairs? The story is that
[ some of this contributed to the birth of Al-Queda, which is
[ the outcome we don't want. There are many other examples,
[ but I am not so familiar with very many of them.
[
[ Of course, you can find, if you dig, references to the
[ espionage and spy agencies of many influential countries:
[ China, Russia, India, Paki, England, France, Germany, and
[ Israel (at least), are all known to have spy/agent
[ organizations (Mossad in Israel, KGB/GRU in Russia [the old
[ names], MI-5,-6 in England, to name a few that come to
[ mind). The US has several others besides NSA/CIA.
[
[ Industrial spying (but much less so any sabotage) is well
[ known in the commercial world. Sometimes it is called
[ "business intelligence" or "marketing research." Very
[ innocent names.
[
[ You can also, if you want, decide that some large fraction
[ of all these stories are "disinformation" if you want, or
[ conspiracy theory, but the CIA does exist and I have driven
[ by the main NSA installation in Maryland, many times, and
[ they have serious fences around it. I don't think they are
[ playing cards or chess games inside.
[
[ And, when I was in the US military, I was involved in
[ classified (weapons-related) work, myself. They take all of
[ this very seriously.
[
[ By the way, they also had spies thousands of years ago. The
[ Trojan Horse was a pretty good espionage/sabotage trick,
[ too.
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[ Subject: Re: If you get sick and tired of Rod Speed.....
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
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[ In article <...@sdf.lonestar.org[ Stray Dog <...@sdf.lonestar.org[
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[ I haven't paid much attention to the "From:" header in
[ certain cases, over the years, one such being where the
[ "Subject:" header didn't interest me. But now that you've
[ brought Rod Speed to my attention . . .
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[ Espionage and counter-espionage, in my view, are necessary
[ for safety and security. What can you say more about the
[ work you did in the military?
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[ But (repeating the question) is "Rod Speed" as undesirable
[ as, say, the poster who calls the US the "biggest terrorist
[ state"?
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
[ Om Shanti
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