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Obama refusal to reveal original birth certificate = "Taxation without representation"! State lawmakers: 'Prove you're president, Mr. Obama!'

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:51:30 -0800 (PST), OppressedTaxpayer <...@aol.com

State lawmakers: Prove you're president, Mr. Obama
Case being assembled to demand eligibility documentation

February 14, 2009

By Bob Unruh

A new lawsuit is being prepared by a California attorney who already
has four cases pending over the issue of President Obama's eligibility
to occupy to Oval Office, and this one will include a demand from
state lawmakers who forward state funds to Washington for
documentation of his qualifications.

Orly Taitz told WND today she's preparing the complaint but is holding
onto it and will file it shortly to give state legislators a chance to
join the action as plaintiffs.

Four already have signed up, including state Rep. Eric Swafford of
Tennessee, who agreed to be a plaintiff "for a Writ of Mandamus to
obtain original birth certificate, immigration records, passports and
other vital records for Barry Soetero aka Barack Hussein Obama."

Taitz told WND the case also probably will include members of the
military as plaintiffs, since both state lawmakers and military
officers are obliged to follow orders from the president, and both
have a need to know the orders are legitimate.

"In the military, those would be unlawful orders, and [following them]
would subject the officers to courts-martial," she said. "In the
legislatures, they cannot follow any of his bills or orders … they
don't know who he is.

"As far as we know he is a foreign national … Why should state
legislators send any funds from the state to a foreign national?" she
said.

"While we are working on the complaint, I'm gathering support from
different states," said Taitz.

Her other cases now include one pending at the U.S. Supreme Court,
another in Superior Court in California, a third in U.S. District
Court in California and a fourth in Texas for which she's awaiting a
court response.

WND has reported on multiple legal challenges that have alleged Obama
does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S.
Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a
natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time
of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office
of President."

Some claim he was not born in Hawaii, as he insists, but in Kenya.
Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time
of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law
at the time.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he
fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If
you still want to see it, join more than 235,000 others and sign up
now!

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his
father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at
the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases
contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from
qualifying as natural born.

Several details of Obama's past have added twists to the question of
his eligibility and citizenship, including his family's move to
Indonesia when he was a child and on what nation's passport he
traveled to Pakistan in the '80s, as well as conflicting reports from
Obama's family about his place of birth.

WND reported just yesterday on a case that accuses Congress of failing
to investigate President Obama's birthplace before approving the
Electoral College vote giving him the presidency.

It alleges unequal treatment because Congress investigated GOP
candidate Sen. John McCain's eligibility.

The lawsuit explains not only are there legitimate questions about
Obama's birth, and therefore eligibility, he might not even be a U.S.
citizen at all.

"There exists a possibility that Obama could be an illegal alien," the
lawsuit said. "Obama has yet to adequately prove that he was born in
the United States. [Further], Obama has publicly conceded that his
father was born in Kenya and a British subject/citizen at the time of
Obama's birth which precluded Obama from gaining any U.S. citizenship
from his father."

Several of the legal cases – including those brought by Taitz, Cort
Wrotnowski, Leo Donofrio and Philip Berg, already have been discussed
in conference at the U.S. Supreme Court, which has failed to have a
hearing on any of the merits involved.

Other cases remain active at lower court levels.

While Obama's campaign team called the cases garbage, here is a
partial listing and status update for several of the cases:

Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts
verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving
his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an
injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th
president, was denied.

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual
citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was
considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full
hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state,
making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in
conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people
filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States
Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to
allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008
presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the
office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's
support.

Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov.
Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was
dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop
the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's
eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's
citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request
documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic
National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the
presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state
seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to
authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction
against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior
Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs.
Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on
the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.
In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising
questions about Obama's eligibility include:
In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

In Washington, L. Charles vs. Obama.

In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii
prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth.
But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The governor's office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but
rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the
certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii
birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan
birth in Hawaii?

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88646



On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:09:16 -0600, "johnny@." <johnny@.

McCain is white.

Don't include your email address in the groups to reply to, you idiot.
It won't work.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:32:59 -0500, Patrick Keenan <...@dev.null

Or left for dead. Even her Lightfoot suit is gone. It will never be
heard.

Taitz doesn't even understand that "referred to conference" does not
mean that the case was referred to "the full court". It's a mechanism
to prevent shopping the justices and wasting their time. They all say
no at once, rather than have nine petitions filed.


There isn't an issue for rational people. That's why all of the cases
are dismissed.

He occupies the office, legally. Get over it.


Already done, to the satisfaction of the necessary parties.

This will be dismissed like all the others. It has no merit, and it
doesn't matter who she cons into bring it forward.

Yeah, sure. I'm sure that they have nothing better to do.

Eric Swafford? You want to present *Eric Swafford*?

Isn't this is the guy who thought that - even though his state ranks
well below the middle for education, ranks 46th in persons 25 or over
who've graduated from high school, where somewhere between 20% and 39%
of citizens are functionally illiterate - who thought that *vibrators*
were the big social problem and that their sale should be outlawed?

*This* is the guy you want to bring forward for a constitutional
challenge?

It's really, really incredibly how desperate you are.

-pk

<snippage

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:35:26 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <...@gmail.com

Boy you right wingers are still on about this? Talk about whining. I think
the majority of democrats gave up the whole Bush stole the election thing by
now didn't they?
Whine whine whine.

"OppressedTaxpayer" <...@x11g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:43:18 -0500, "Patrick Keenan" <...@dev.null

"Seon Ferguson" <...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

A humorous aspect of this is that their star state legislator is mostly
famous for wanting to outlaw the sale of vibrators, at the same time that
between a 20 and 40 percent of his state's citizens were functionally
illitterate.

Definitely, these people have their priorities straight.

-pk

<snippage

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:08:53 -0500, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <00541c36-1f1a-47dd-98b7-
88b3...@x11g2000pro.googlegroups.com
Kook-koo!!! Looks like you, and Bob Unruh, are kooks of a feather.

I hear they rave together.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:03:23 -0800 (PST), Al Nakba <...@bluebottle.com

On Feb 14, 5:51 pm, OppressedTaxpayer <...@aol.com
Obammy is the Kenyan Pretender..

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:24:43 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On Feb 14, 6:51 pm, OppressedTaxpayer <...@aol.com
They're too late... Obama released his birth certificate last summer.
Case fuckin' closed.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:18:15 -0600, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net

"Hughbert G Rection" <...@4ax.com...

You dumb ass kook sheep just dontget it.

Obama has NEVER posted a Birth Certficate.
He posted a Certification of Live Birth
But you just go ahead and kep bending over grabbing your ankels, sheep.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:27:01 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On Feb 14, 8:18 pm, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net

Ummm, kooker, the certification of live birth IS a certified copy of
his birth certificate. It PROVES he was born in Hawaii. Case closed.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:56:21 -0600, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net

"Hughbert G Rection" <...@4ax.com...

You mean like this one?

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm361/tcreek/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963-s m.jpg

<SNICKER
And you dumb ass kook sheep wonder why your ass keeps hurting when you wake
up in the morning.


On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:00:13 -0500, Kali <...@happy.joy

In article <...@richardcranium.tv.cl says...

...

rofl! What do you think a Certificate of Live Birth is? I've been
reading auk off and on for eight years, and that has to be the
dumbest thing I've read that wasn't a troll.

Republicans don't want to fund schools and they don't want educated
voters. Geekboy is a good example.


--
Kali

This is not a stimulus bill; it is a spending bill. -Sen. John
McCain
What do you think a stimulus is? Spending, that is the whole
point. -Pres. Barack Obama

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:43:22 -0600, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net

"Kali" <...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...

Hello, MORON?

C E R T I F I C A T *** I O N *** not certficiate
And you dumb ass sheep keep wondering why your ass hurts every morning.

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm361/tcreek/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963-s m.jpg

When you conspiracy theory kooks can see the light, then you can start
posting again.


On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:36:31 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On Feb 14, 10:43 pm, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net

Talking to yourself?

Same thing, asshole.

Uh, no.

Moron, Obama's certified copy of his birth certificate was issued by
the state in 2007. It don't look like a 1963 one any more.

Could you try to be stupider next time?

BWAHAAAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!

OMG!!! A kooker calling sane people kooks! It's like a bonus laugh on
top of your regular kooktardishness! THANKS!

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:56:43 -0800 (PST), Disneygeek <...@hotmail.com

On Feb 15, 12:43 am, "GeekBoy" <...@nerdyten.net
What is the problem? The certificate states that he was born in Hawaii
and that it is considered legal proof. Your argument that it is
insufficient is moot. Unless you have some evidence that it is a
forgery, your entire argument goes out the window.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:17:24 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On Feb 15, 10:56 am, Disneygeek <...@hotmail.com
He can't have evidence it's a forgery since Hawaii has authenticated
it publicly.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:18:50 -0500, Kali <...@happy.joy

In article <...@nerdyten.net says...

Congratulations. You are the dumbest kook I've ever encountered on
Usenet. You make Richard "The Stupid" Bullis seem like a Rhodes
Scholar by comparison.

I mean, nuttier kooks than you than you have moved pass the phony
birth certificate conspiracy and on to more fruitful pastures, such
as the insistence that Hawaii isn't really a state. Eventually the
road leads to acceptance of the fact that your president is an
African American, and then you get to move on with your life.

A Texas birth certificate says: "Certification of Birth". Does that
mean it's not a birth certificate?

A Maryland birth certificate says: "Birth Registration Notice". Is
that a valid birth certificate?

An Iowa birth certificate says: "Certification of Birth
Registration". Is that not valid?


Wear your tin foil hat proudly, kook.

--
Kali

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:22:00 -0500, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@blackhelicopter.databasix.comsays...

It's like an honor for them to be called "kooktard". They are so far
gone, they don't even recognize it for the insult it is anymore. They
call us "sheep" and rave on about whatever kooktardery they are
currently into.

I actually thought the Obama BC/Born in Kenya thing was going to go
away, but it seems to have brought out some kooktards that were just
waiting for the right insane train to jump onto.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:03:04 -0500, Kali <...@happy.joy

In article <...@sanity.com says...

Indeed, it's all so "last summer".

I guess it is going to take time for them to work through those five
stages of grief.


--
Kali

This is not a stimulus bill; it is a spending bill. -Sen. John
McCain
What do you think a stimulus is? Spending, that is the whole
point. -Pres. Barack Obama