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On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT), kangarooistan <...@gmail.com
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On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:01:09 -0500, Ian B MacLure <...@svpal.org
He's an idjit.
We're well behind most of Europe.
Subtract the Nation Of Islam and we're even farther down the list.
But hey if Stan wants to dig himself a deeper hole I say hand him
a bigger shovel and stand back.
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Anonymous Wrote:
http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=7247
The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
Report; Posted on: 2009-06-02
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Once again the so-called "extremists" were right again. Here it is from the
horses' mouth.
ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report: The other day we heard a
comment from a White House aide that never would have been uttered during the
primaries or general election campaign.
During a conference call in preparation for President Obama's trip to Cairo,
Egypt, where he will address the Muslim world, deputy National Security
Adviser for Strategic Communications Denis McDonough said "the President
himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to -- or
before he's been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world -- you
know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father -- obviously Muslim
Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago."
Given widespread unease and prejudice against Muslims among Americans,
especially in the wake of 9/11, the Obama campaign was perhaps understandably
very sensitive during the primaries and general election to downplay the
candidate's Muslim roots.
The candidate was even offended when referred to by his initials "BHO,"
because he considered the use of his middle name, "Hussein," an attempt to
frighten voters.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/obama-distances.html
With insane rumors suggesting he was some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate,
then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his campaign did everything they could to
emphasize his Christianity and de-emphasize the fact that his father, Barack
Obama Sr., was born Muslim.
The candidate's comment at a Boca Raton, Florida, town hall meeting on May 22,
2008, was typical: "My father was basically agnostic, as far as I can tell,
and I didn't know him," he said.
In September 2008, candidate Obama told a Pennsylvania crowd, "I know that I'm
not your typical presidential candidate and I just want to be honest with you.
I know that the temptation is to say, 'You know what? The guy hasn't been
there that long in Washington. You know, he's got a funny name. You know,
we're not sure about him.' And that's what the Republicans when they say this
isn't about issues, it's about personalities, what they're really saying is,
'We're going to try to scare people about Barack. So we're going to say that,
you know, maybe he's got Muslim connections.'...Just making stuff up."
Back then, the campaign's "Fight the Smears" website addressed the candidate's
faith without mentioning his father's religion:
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/3/baracksfaith
"Barack Obama is a committed Christian. He was sworn into the
Senate on his family Bible. He has regularly attended church
with his wife and daughters for years. But shameful, shadowy
attackers have been lying about Baracks religion, claiming he
is a Muslim instead of a committed Christian. When people
fabricate stories about someones faith to denigrate them
politically, thats an attack on people of all faiths. Make
sure everyone you know is aware of this deception."
The website also provided quotes from the Boston Globe and Newsweek mentioning
his father's roots.
Since the election, however, with the threat of the rumors at least somewhat
abated, the White House has been increasingly forthcoming about the
president's roots. Especially when reaching out to the
Muslim world.
In his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament, President Obama referenced
how many "Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim
majority country. I know, because I am one of them."
source
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/abc-news-jake-tapper-and-sunlen -miller-report-the-other-day-we-heard-a-comment-from-a-white-house-aide-that-nev erwould-have.html
News Source: political punch
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Anonymous Wrote:
http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=7249
America A Muslim Country? POTUS BHO Says It Might Be
News/Comment; Posted on: 2009-06-03
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In an interview with France's Canal Plus released on Tuesday evening he, Mr.
Obama, suggested that the United States might be a Muslim country.
Toby Harnden
Jun 3, 2009
It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim
Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".
So says President Barack Obama. Or I should say: Barack Hussein Obama.
That's right: Barack Hussein Obama. Say it proud. Say it out loud. The middle
moniker that dared not speak its name during the election campaign is now
front and centre of the US president's attempt to woo the Muslim world, the
theme of his visits to Riyadh on Wednesday and Cairo on Thursday.
Petrified of the potential political fallout of being branded a Muslim,
Candidate Obama - a practicing Christian - never used the name "Hussein" and
its use was frowned upon as a forbidden code for the nutty accusation that he
was some kind of Islamic Manchurian candidate.
No more.
To say Barack Hussein Obama - BHO for short - now appears to be the height of
political correctness.
As I argue in this analysis for the Telegraph dead tree edition, Obama is
seeking to return to a Middle East policy based on realism - buttressed by the
bona fides of his own multi-cultural (including Muslim) background.
In Strasbourg two months ago, the president tried out his full name. Days
later in Ankara, he was introduced to the Turkish parliament by his full name.
As ABC's Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller astutely outline here, the Obama
administration is embracing the new president's inner Muslim, as it were.
Deputy national security adviser stated that Obama had "experienced Islam on
three continents...growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father --
obviously Muslim Americans [are] a key part of Illinois and Chicago".
So that's once, twice, three times a Muslim?
Just in case the Arab world hasn't yet got this message of inbuilt tolerance,
Mr Obama himself has gone a step further. In an interview with France's Canal
Plus released on Tuesday evening, he suggested that the United States might be
a Muslim country.
Obama said he wanted to "create a better dialogue so that the Muslim world
understands more effectively how the United States but also how the West
thinks about many of these difficult issues like terrorism, like democracy, to
discuss the framework for what's happened in Iraq and Afghanistan and our
outreach to Iran, and also how we view the prospects for peace between the
Israelis and the Palestinians".
So far, so blah - President George W. Bush often expressed much the same
sentiments.
But then, as is his habit , Obama turned the concept around.
"Now, the flip side is I think that the United States and the West generally,
we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam. And one of the points
I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim
Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. And so
there's got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two
peoples."
Obama said in Turkey that Americans "do not consider ourselves a Christian
nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation". John McCain was criticised in
2007 for saying the US was "a Christian nation", later amending this to "a
Judeo-Christian valued nation".
Of course, the concept of separation of church and state, which derived from
the First Amendment to the Constitution, means that the US is not officially a
Christian nation or a nation of any other particular religion. Which means, I
suppose, that the US is as much a Muslim nation as a Christian one.
It's a bold - some might say audacious - turnaround by the president. It's
also a classically Obamaesque move. During the 2008 campaign, he skillfully
made himself, through his life story, the personification of change.
Now, implicitly contrasting himself with the born-again, evangelical Bush who
pursued a post-9/11 "crusade" against terrorism, Obama is presenting himself
to the Islamic world as the personification of a new, tolerant - and, yes,
partly Muslim - America.
UPDATE: The excellent Don Surber crunches the numbers and points out that
Obama's claim is highly dubious. According to Surber, the US has an estimated
three to eight million Muslims, less than one per cent of the world's total
and less than at least 23 other countries.
The average claim for the US Muslim population is about six million. The
precise figure is difficult to get because it's not included in US census data
and many put the figure at much, much less.
But even if we assume there are six million Muslims in the US, that makes it
only the 34th biggest Muslim country in the world - behind Indonesia,
Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Nigeria, China, Ethiopia,
Algeria, Morocco, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan,
Yemen, Tanzania, Syria, Malaysia, Niger, Senegal, Ghana, Tunisia, Somalia,
Guinea, Kenya, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Burkina Faso and Tajikistan.
Strangely enough, the source of this piece was removed from the
Telegraph.UK.Co website
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2009/06/03/barack_hussein_obama_ us_one_of_the_largest_muslim_countries
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