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Savage Considers Legal Action Against UK Travel Ban For Political

On Thu, 07 May 2009 09:17:06 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

I know this is from prision planet but I just had to share the good
news someone was fighting this PC facisim that has swept the world.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/savage-considers-legal-action-against-uk-travel-ban -for-political-opinions.html

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, May 5, 2009

The third most listened to radio talk show host in America, Michael
Savage, outlawed from traveling to the UK by Home Secretary Jacqui
Smith because of his political opinions, has vowed to take legal
action to clear his name on grounds of defamation after he was
included in a list of banned individuals because of his opposition to
illegal immigration.

World Net Daily reports that Savage is talking to attorneys and notes
that England has very strict laws regarding defamation of character.

Reacting with shock to being linked with terrorists, racist groups and
violent skinheads, Savage responded, “She said this is the kind of
behavior we won’t tolerate? She’s linking me with mass murderers who
are in prison for killing Jewish children on buses? For my speech? The
country where the Magna Carta was created?’”

Smith said that Savage was an example of “someone who has fallen into
the category of fomenting hatred, of such extreme views and expressing
them in such a way that it is actually likely to cause inter-community
tension or even violence if that person were allowed into the
country.”

“Shame on you. Shame that you’ve fallen to such a low level,”
responded Savage.

“It’s interesting to me that here I am a talk show host, who does not
advocate violence, who advocates patriotic traditional values –
borders, language, culture – who is now on a list banned in England,”
Savage said. What does that say about the government of England? It
says more about them than it says about me,” he added.

Since the UK Home Secretary Jacqui Smith fits the dictionary
definition of “the head of a government department….one that attempts
to control public opinion or its expression,” she can accurately be
described as a political commissar in the same mould as those that
crushed free speech in the former Soviet Union.

As we reported this morning, freedom of speech on Britain is all but
dead and expressing opinions that might be considered “offensive” to
minority groups has effectively been outlawed.

Said Savage, “How can a nation put me on a list and leave hate
preachers in England who say that we’re going to kill all of you?
We’re going to convert all of you to Islam. How is it possible that
those hate preachers can’t be deported from Britain, but I can be
banned from Britain? People who advocate actual murder cannot be
deported from Britain.”

“How is it that liberalism has gotten so distorted and cowardly?”

(a fucking men)



On Wed, 6 May 2009 19:04:59 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.net

On May 6, 7:17 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

That would be the same Dan Savage who has repeatedly called for
deportation of folks he personally doesn't approve? Good to see he's
consistent in his philosophy.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 14:08:54 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 6 May 2009 19:04:59 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.netwrote:

No Michael Savage.

On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:08:27 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.net

On May 7, 12:08 am, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
Fred Savage?

On Thu, 7 May 2009 12:01:39 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.net

On May 7, 12:08 am, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
who? (just kidding. thanks for the correction)

On Fri, 08 May 2009 09:16:12 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 7 May 2009 12:01:39 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.netwrote:

But after what I have heard about him I am beginning to wonder if this
is just karma kicking his arse.

On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.net

On May 7, 7:16 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
but did he ever express a desire to go to england?

On Fri, 08 May 2009 13:40:24 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:07:44 -0700 (PDT), z <...@snail-mail.netwrote:

I thought he went but wasn't allowed in. I guess I am going to have to
watch what I say as I have family in Scotland. Um God bless the labour
party and God bless Gorden brown. god save the queen and all that.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 14:08:32 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 06 May 2009 18:58:12 -0700, Turd Ferguson
<...@snl.info

It is not racist to be against illegal immigration. The illegal
immigrants broke the law when they entered America illegally. The only
people who say it is are pc fuckwits.
It is also clearly free speech.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 14:23:29 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 06 May 2009 21:17:46 -0700, Turd Ferguson
<...@snl.info

So your saying the government should forbid people from entering their
country if they don't like what they say?
I couldn't give a rats arse about what Savage said. I support his
right to say it. Just as I support Ann Colters right to speak. After
all I am not forced to listen to her.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 15:43:02 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 06 May 2009 22:06:31 -0700, Turd Ferguson
<...@snl.info

And luckily Obama outlawed torture.
So if you say something a governments country does not like you should
be forbidden to enter it. I can't decide if that is communism or
fascism.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 17:43:04 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 06 May 2009 23:41:37 -0700, Turd Ferguson
<...@snl.info

If they pose a risk or are coming to break the law. Like that guy who
is teaching people how to abort. But how does not letting an idiot
like Savage into your country protect you?
It's not about if Savage is right or wrong. It's about free speech.
Now I could say it's free speech and you could say Savage is a prick
over and over again or we could just agree to disagree.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 17:25:15 +0200, Government Shill #2 <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 07 May 2009 15:43:02 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

It's democracy. The majority of a population vote in a government. The
government makes laws. The laws proscribe certain activities. Break the
laws, face the consequences.

You do support democracy, don't you Seon?

"The existence of these laws establishes that in Australia, governments and
communities view hate speech as an unacceptable form of expression
warranting state intervention to minimise its harms and/or its occurrence."
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UNSWLJ/2005/52.html

--
Shill #2

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)

On Fri, 08 May 2009 09:14:09 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 07 May 2009 17:25:15 +0200, Government Shill #2
<...@gmail.com

Is it? Is banning people from entering a country really based on
democracy and a "free society"?

On Fri, 08 May 2009 07:22:30 +0200, Government Shill #2 <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 08 May 2009 09:14:09 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

Yes. If the "free society" made the laws, of course it is. The "free
society" is upholding its laws.

--
Shill #2

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)

On Fri, 08 May 2009 15:31:37 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 08 May 2009 07:22:30 +0200, Government Shill #2
<...@gmail.com

No the government of that free society made the laws. Or do you think
all Germans agreed to the Holocaust.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 17:34:37 +0200, Government Shill #2 <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 08 May 2009 15:31:37 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

Make up your mind! Are we talking about your "free society", or the Nazi
Third Reich?

--
Shill #2

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)

On Fri, 8 May 2009 03:23:49 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@gmail.com says...

Seon makes the leap to kookspeed.

Warped factor nine.....
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Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Fri, 08 May 2009 17:39:12 +0200, Government Shill #2 <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 8 May 2009 03:23:49 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

Yeah. Not winning? Change tack.

--
Shill #2

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)

On Wed, 6 May 2009 21:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 6, 10:08 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
You kooker, Savage IS an illegal immigrant in the UK. Can you spell H-
Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?

Wait, who am I talking to! Of course you can't!

On Thu, 07 May 2009 15:00:38 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 6 May 2009 21:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

He doesn't want to live there. He wants to travel there. Let me guess
you don't believe in free speech.

Anonymous Wrote:

Savage baby fuck enjoys free speech here 'in America' because of
liberals.

What makes you people and that subhuman slimebag think that should
extend to other countries?

Surely they see him as a true security risk.

If a liberal was a radical as that 'thing', the same would happen.

You fucks know who Ward Curchill is right, he is weird, but not as
radical as MOST of what you right wing trash
embrace. Shit he's not even slightly radical in comparison.

You people are like political terrorists that just never let up.
Fighting for a unexplainable dead cause.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 17:46:53 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

Oh I get it just because I support Michael Savage's right to free
speech I must agree with everything he says. Like, when I stick up for
gay rights I have homophobes calling me the f word. Or when I stand up
for Jews I am called a Jew.
You see if free speech is taken away for one person, no matter how
extreme he is then there is no free speech at all. Either everyone can
say what they want or no one can.
Also what would happen if this happened to Michael Moore or Bill
Mahur. Are you seriously telling me you would just accept it?

On Thu, 7 May 2009 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 6, 11:00 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
So fuckin' what, gayboi?

ILLEGALLY. What part of this do you not understand?

What does free speech have to do with his blatant illegal entry into
the UK?

JAIL HIM!! He's doing nothing less than what he accuses illegal
immigrants in the US of doing.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 09:15:37 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 7 May 2009 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

So therefore he is not an immigrant like you said so.

I don't understand how it is ilegally.

On Thu, 7 May 2009 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 7, 5:15 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
Yes he is.

He was banned and violated the ban. That's illegal. Are you really
this stupid? Gay people are usually more intelligent.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 13:39:28 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 7 May 2009 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

He did not want to move to the UK.

Did he realise he was banned? Why would he waste all that money on a
plane ticket?

On Thu, 7 May 2009 21:12:30 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 7, 9:39 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
Doesn't matter. He still entered illegally. The fact that he might
only want to stay for a short time doesn't change the illegality of
his entering in the first place, nimrod.

WTF? He's announced he's suing over it, I'd say that's a good sign he
knows about it. I mean, what are the odds that he would just out of
the blue decide to sue the UK over barring his entry if he didn't know
about it?

You douche, he's a publicity grubbing racist rightard who LOVES the
fact that he was banned because maybe it'll gain him some ratings
points among the KKK listeners.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 15:30:40 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Thu, 7 May 2009 21:12:30 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

Yes it does because if he didn't know then it wasn't his fault.

Yeah after he wasn't allowed to enter the UK.

So does he encourage his listeners to resort to violence? If so he
should have been banned along with that former head of the KKK.

On Fri, 8 May 2009 07:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 7, 11:30 pm, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
You shithead, HE ENTERED ILLEGALLY and he knew it and BRAGGED about
it. He is no different than the illegal immigrants he whines about.

Correct. So you're admitting you were wrong.

On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:17:22 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 8 May 2009 07:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

Well if he knew about then you are right. It was illegally. But he's
just a racist fuckwit anyway.

I meant he knew he could not enter the UK after he went there. But if
he knew he was on that list of banned people he was in the wrong.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:53:21 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Wed, 6 May 2009 21:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

immigrants are people who want to live in the country. Savage wanted
to TRAVEL there.

On Fri, 8 May 2009 14:20:48 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@gmail.com says...

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Holy shit! You nearly cost me a keyboard!!
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Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Fri, 8 May 2009 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 8, 2:53 am, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
Same thing so far as illegal entry is concerned. He is no different
than an illegal alien sneaking into the country.

On Sat, 09 May 2009 09:56:58 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Fri, 8 May 2009 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

No because he wants to TRAVEL there. You have a point. If he knew he
was on the list and went to the UK anyway he went there illegally.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 00:54:54 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@gmail.com says...

Saying the same thing again doesn't make it less clueless, Seon, in fact
it makes it even whackier.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sat, 09 May 2009 17:12:52 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Sat, 9 May 2009 00:54:54 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

I just don't see how he is just as bad as those Mexicans who enter
YOUR country illegally. Oh and the more I hear about him the more I
think he is a racist prick.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.com

On May 9, 1:12 am, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com
He's worse.

He's a self-promoting money grubbing racist. Mexicans who come to the
US illegally are looking to find work to keep their families from
starving. That's honorable.

On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:25:02 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Sat, 9 May 2009 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <...@yahoo.comwrote:

Oh yeah good point. All he wants to do is promote hatred of gay
people. I can't blame them for wanting to go to America. America kicks
arse (sorry I forgot I can't talk about YOUR country)

On Sat, 9 May 2009 03:49:07 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@gmail.com says...

If you go by how much cash he has, no, but other than that, there's
nothing special about him, except he's famous/infamous. Someone in the
UK Govt has decided they don't want him, and you can cry about it all
you want, but it's THEIR decision to let him in or not. It's not like it
is here, where they can sneak over the huge border we have with Mexico.
If you want to sneak into the UK, it's pretty difficult, a boat would be
the best bet.


I don't know how much of his ravings are part of his act, and how much
is real, but he's spouted enough stuff over the years that he's
considered my a lot of people to be one. Once in a while, I listen to
him when I can't find anything else to listen to. The last time I was
stuck in a traffic jam and he was screaming about something, and some
ass kisser called up on the phone, and it was a love fest. It's funny
how much ass kissing is done on conservative radio shows compared to the
left wing. Not that they don't have a lot too.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sat, 9 May 2009 13:40:57 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@snl.info says...

Seon Hannity seems to just have ass kisser after ass kisser, it's just
pitiful. I have to say Mike Malloy is just as obnoxious (and a 911
kooktard to boot)as Hannity is.

The local guy we used to have here had the same callers day after day, I
knew one of them, and she called every single day. All she did was agree
with everything he said, and would tell him how great he was, etc. It
was sad.

When she missed calling the first time, the host of the show called her
house to see if she was ok on the air! She wasn't there, she was in the
hospital, and died a couple of days later. They announced it on the air,
and she had quite a few listeners show up at her funeral, including
almost all the people who worked on the show.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sat, 9 May 2009 20:02:54 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@freakbros.cd.ro says...

I think they wanted to, but her family said no. I don't know exactly
what they wanted to do, but her sons stopped them.

At least they never took money from her, unlike the preachers.

I feel that way when Ann Coulter or Dr. Laura is on.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:21:39 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Sat, 9 May 2009 03:49:07 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com
Yeah and it does show how much better America is then the UK. In
America your free speech is guaranteed because your founding fathers
fought for it. In countries like Australia and the UK there is nothing
stopping our government from banning anyone from entering our country
(although I would argue we ban the hateful preachers or the hateful
Muslim clerics)

I wish I could download left wing radio shows. All I can download is
Rush Limbaugh (gag) Alex Jones and coast to coast am (which is the
only show I would recomend) there is a lot of arse kissing on Alex
Jones. Maybe its because people are afraid to disagree with him.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 20:49:11 -0400, BDK <...@sanity.com

In article <...@gmail.com says...

You can get a subscription to Sirius/XM to listen online for like $6.50
(US), but some of them are incredibly lame. Mike Malloy is a bitter old
kooktard, raving about 911, and hanging up on people who call him on
that nonsense. A friend of mine called one time, and he lasted about 6
seconds when he called Mike on the "Freefall speed" bullshit. Rush cuts
off anyone who disagrees too, so they aren't any better.

All I can download is

Why? Because he might hang up on them? Talk about gutless.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

On Sat, 09 May 2009 14:33:19 GMT, "Green Lantern" <...@peril.com

"Seon Ferguson" <...@4ax.com...

The Govt would also be opposed to illegal immigration and so there's no
conflict.

However, let's say there is a conflict and let's say I'm PM and let's say
that some radical arsehole is visiting Australia and let's say that this
arsehole is making public performances. I would plant people in the audience
to heckle the arsehole. When his security forces move in, I'd arrest him for
disallowing free speech. This makes him the villian rather than the victim
and I can let him rot in jail at my leisure. Problem solved.


On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:26:53 +1000, Seon Ferguson <...@gmail.com

On Sat, 09 May 2009 14:33:19 GMT, "Green Lantern" <...@peril.comwrote:

That's a good idea. But I'm not sure if hate speech counts as free
speech. I was watching Bill Maher and he said marching down a black
neighborhood in silly KKK outfits yelling the n word counted as free
speech. How does that count as free speech?