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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:06:30 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) hofm...@att.net" <...@att.net
On Nov 7, 4:37 am, "Bob-tx" <...@suddenlink.net
I would check out Consumer's Reports for reliability comments. We
have a smoothtop Kenmore free-standing 30" range and my wife loves it
for the extra space she has when not cooking. It is slower to heat/
cool than the gas we had in other houses, but the ease of cleaning
more than makes up for any inconveniences in cooking.
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:09:23 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
This is a good time to make any major changes. Are you a serious cook? If
so, you've probably considered gas. This is the time to either run the NG
line if available or have a propane tank installed..
Smooth tops do look nice and they are better than they used to be. They do
require a flat bottom on the cookware so the old chili pot may not work as
well and cast iron can scratch them up. My actual experience with the new
models is limited so I can't give a lot of specifics.
Most serious cooks prefer gas for the faster response time, ability to use
an open flame and the overall design of the cooktops compared to electric.
Better models have full grate ont he top so you can slide a heavy pot from
back to front rather than have to lift it.
Better brands include Bertazzoni, Viking, Whirlpool, Bosch, Kitchen Aid.
I'd avoid the $400 special, but that may suite your needs. This is what I
have running on propane.
www.bertazzoni-italia.com
This model
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/Product/detail.aspx?CatID=PS&ID=47
This may be closer to your needs
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/Product/detail.aspx?CatID=PS&ID=41
or
http://www.bertazzoni-italia.com/Product/detail.aspx?CatID=PS&ID=4
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:23:16 -0500, "nor...@earthlink.net" <...@earthlink.net
Looks way cool...what might the basic 30" gas range cost?
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:14:45 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
<...@earthlink.net
About $2500 for the SS, a few hundred more for colors. It is painted in the
same factory as the Lamborghini.
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:15:34 -0500, "Pete C." <...@snet.net
If you have to ask the cost, you can't afford it...
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:26:35 -0500, "cshenk" <...@cox.net
"Bob-tx" wrote
Bob, have you or SO ever cooked on one of those? Or are you just going on
looks? Granted they are a little better now, but still they arent for real
cooks. Not as functional and easily damaged.
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:45:33 -0800 (PST), terry <...@nf.sympatico.ca
On Nov 7, 7:37 am, "Bob-tx" <...@suddenlink.net
Suggestion: If rest of stove is in good condition?
Maybe fix it? Electric cooking stoves are pretty simple devices and if
one is handy, probably looking at $50 or less to put back in service.
A good used electric cooking stove can often be found here for $200 or
less.
If it is the replacement of a 'cook top' you may be faced with a
different size hole in the counter top?
Since we don't have piped in gas here (only truck delivered propane)
we have used electric cooking exclusively since 1960. Including
operating a catering company for over 30 years.
Propane is sometimes used here for 'summer cabins' (Where no
commercial electric supply), some residential fireplaces and RVs etc.
Good luck with your project.
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Anonymous Wrote:
I was thinkng the same thing as Terry posted. Is this problem the only
reason you want to replace it? If you have been wanting one before and
now this is the perfect excuse for getting a new one, fine. If not, it
sounds like all you need is an element and a control. Around here, there
are usually people on Craigslist trying to give stoves away. Also,
whenever an area of the city is having it's twice yearly solid
waste/brush pickup, there are almost always appliances including stoves
at the curb. I saw an electric stove at a Goodwill store a while back
for $9.95, that looked 100% complete. If you can get a hold of something
like that, rob all the elements, controls, knobs, etc. and sell the rest
to the scrap metal recyclers for a enough to buy a beer or two. If you
don't want to mess with that, "most" elements and the basic cycling
controls are around $10-15 each, if you know where to get them
wholesale. I have a number of parts like that laying around.that I'd
give you if you want. Larry
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:55:51 -0800 (PST), terry <...@nf.sympatico.ca
My thinking exactly Larry. From what we have read, could probably fix
that stove with what have here, on hand, scrapped from other discarded
stoves! 'Still good elements', used temperature controls and heat
resistant wire. Conservative estimation of time probably less than an
hour including finding the used 'bits', while listening to the evening
news.
Best to have the stove 'cold' both electrically and thermally while
working on it!
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:06:56 -0500, "Someguy469" <...@hotmail.com
Consider looking in Consumer reports magazine.
"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:33:54 -0700, "SteveB" <...@depends.com
"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
You will get some good leads from others here who are familiar with
electric. I'm a gas fan myself, and when we do our coming remodel, we're
having a propane tank and stovetop put in. It's all personal on the
gas/electric thing.
Steve
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:48:00 -0800, "Roger Shoaf" <...@nospamsyix.com
"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
How about fixing the current stove top? Parts are cheap compared to
replacement.
--
Roger Shoaf
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:38:54 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" <...@hotmail.com
Of the appliances I've repaired. Whirlpool tend to be
dependable, and inexpensive to repair. Generally Expensive,
I don't like those. I also avoid Kenmore. Their repairs are
expensive. They also like to push the MA (maintenance
agreement) which is a money maker for them.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
http://www.lds.org
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"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:53:05 -0600, "Bob-tx" <...@suddenlink.net
"Stormin Mormon" <...@hotmail.commessage news...@news.eternal-september.org...
How about an older GE, like I have. We have had bad luck with GE
appliances, which is what we chose when we had the house built. The
dishwasher went bad at nine years, the oven at ten, and now the cook
top.
From the sound of it, do you think ours is worth repairing.
Thanks, Bob
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:44:09 -0800, "Roger Shoaf" <...@nospamsyix.com
"Bob-tx" <...@news.suddenlink.net...
An electric stove is easy. You have only three things that can fail.
1] the wires or the connections.
2] the controller
3] the burner
Most of the time you will have 2 large burners and two small burners.
First try swapping the known good burner with the suspect burner.
If the known good burner works in the previous bad burner position then the
element is bad and you only need a new element.
If the suspect burner works in the different position, then you know both
elements are good.
Now you can check the controller and the wires with a volt meter.
At full power setting (high) the socket to the burner should be getting
240V. If it does then the socket itself is probably shot. If it doesn't,
then check the out put from the control. Should be 240V (with knob set to
high) if not then check the input to the control. here you should have
three wires when you connect between two of them you should read 240V and
when you connect between the other two you should get 120V.
With these tests you should have quickly isolated the bum part.
--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:01:30 -0800 (PST), terry <...@nf.sympatico.ca
On Nov 8, 4:53 pm, "Bob-tx" <...@suddenlink.net
Yes. BTW not sure if brand name means very much. Sometimes appliances
are manufactured in the same plant, with minor differences and
presence or absence of features. So it's quite possible that say, a
Kenmore was assembled right next to something marketed as a Whirlpool
etc. Or is in fact for that production year a re-badge of another
brand.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:15:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
"terry" <...@nf.sympatico.caYes. BTW not sure if brand name means very much. Sometimes appliances
are manufactured in the same plant, with minor differences and
presence or absence of features. So it's quite possible that say, a
Kenmore was assembled right next to something marketed as a Whirlpool
etc. Or is in fact for that production year a re-badge of another
brand.
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The few major companies have "families" of brands and they vary with
features. Whirlpool makes Estate as the low end, for instance. Kenmore
buys from all of the major makers. You may be getting a Whirlpool or a
Frigidaire or some other brand. It may be identical to the brand name, or it
may have some small feature different, just to be different. If you check
the part number, there is a web site that cross references the manufacturer.
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Anonymous Wrote:
Just noticed the OP's name. Where in Tx are you? San Antonio area by
chance? Larry
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:27:08 -0600, "Bob-tx" <...@suddenlink.net
"Lp1331 1p1331" <...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...
Nope, used to live in SA but got transferred out in 1965.
Now live in Georgetown
Bob-tx
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