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On Sat, 23 May 2009 17:55:20 -0400, Nate Nagel <...@roosters.net
Marissa,
I haven't a clue whether those tiles have asbestos or not but can tell
you that if they were installed after 1980 they should be OK unless
someone used old stock.
that said, I'm not nuts about the light in your second picture... what's
the deal there? Am concerned about that installation, why is there tile
around there and not a proper box?
nate
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:11:29 -0400, Marissa Taylor <...@ss.ss
I have no idea, as we discovered that after we had purchased the house.
Originally the lamp fixture covered the area now visible. It's been
that way a long time. I believe there is a box mounted to the joists
and the support post now protrudes through the ceiling tiles. After I
get this other issue resolved, we'll work on the light.
Unfortunately I have no idea when that ceiling was installed, but the
house was constructed in the 1960s.
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:15:12 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour <...@worldemail.com
On May 23, 5:48 pm, Marissa Taylor <...@ss.ss
Those tiles are no where near 40 or 50 years old. There's no worry
about asbestos. Any time you are going to be creating dust just stick
a fan in a window and have it blow out. Block off the rest of the
window. That will suck the dust out of the room and keep it from
spreading all over the house.
Those tiles are available and there's not much to working with them.
Here's a link to new installation:
http://www.acehardware.com/sm-installing-ceiling-tile--bg-1298355.html
You can break out the tile to be replaced carefully as already noted,
then cut off the tongues or the backside of the grooves on the
replacement tile as required, then use adhesive and white panel nails
to install the new tile. A little joint compound works to hide dings
in the tile.
R
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 17:56:06 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour <...@worldemail.com
Please leave the humor to the professionals - you're obviously way
under-qualified. Thanks.
R
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On 24 May 2009 01:13:39 GMT, Han <...@nospam.not
RicodJour <...@l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
That was humor? Not even close. None of us is getting out of this life
alive, but there's dying and dying. Asbestos-induced cancer is not the
nicest way by far.
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Han
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On 24 May 2009 10:39:32 GMT, Han <...@nospam.not
lett...@invalid.com wrote in
news...@4ax.com:
Have your heart stop in your sleep. People still do just quit.
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:31:35 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
"Marissa Taylor" <...@news.eternal-september.org...
Doubt they have asbestos, but a simple dust mask would take care of things.
No need to get all hysterical about removing one tile.
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 18:39:28 -0400, Nate Nagel <...@roosters.net
right... unless the ceiling HAS to come down, so long as the ceiling
isn't falling apart (the actual condition is called "friable") you're
really not at any significantly elevated risk just leaving it there.
The paint is holding all the fibers in place.
Now if you had plans to remodel, the presence/absence of asbestos would
be something that you'd want to know.
nate
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Anonymous Wrote:
In article <...@news2.newsguy.comNate Nagel <...@roosters.net
It takes a microscope and training to identify asbestos fibers. You'd
have to send a sample to a lab and have it tested.
Small quantities aren't a significant risk. However, any asbestos fibers
that get into your lungs stay there forever, so exposure should be
limited when possible.
No, conventional dust masks are not adquate to stop asbestos fibers.
They'll catch clumps of material, but not individual fibers. Takes a
real respirator to block it.
No need to take unnecessary chances, though.
Correct; disturbing the fibers is where the problem will arise. I had
to go through an asbestos O&M course at the last job; doing abatement
properly is a significant undertaking.
Maybe. That's a quirk in the regulations; if you _know_ it contains
asbestos, you're required to do full abatement using a certified
contractor. If you _don't_ know, you don't have to do full abatement.
You can DIY or have work done without the certified contractor, at
a much lower cost. Never did quite understand the logic of that.
Gary
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 22:30:20 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
"Gary Heston" <...@hiwaay.net
Sounds like a quirk written by the lobbyist for asbestos abatement companies
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On Sun, 24 May 2009 05:58:07 -0400, Nate Nagel <...@roosters.net
Right; I was going at it from a common-sense standpoint, not a legal
regulation standpoint.
Cannot a homeowner still do their own abatement though, even if asbestos
is known to be present? (not that it's relevant to me; I had a ceiling
similar to the OP, demo'd it in a day. Done. That's about the only
stuff I have around here that looks to be potentially
asbestos-containing, save for the floor tile in the basement that I also
already removed...)
nate
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:57:20 -0500, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
wrote:
Mist the tiles with a little water from a spray bottle to keep the
asbestos from becoming airborne, and you should be fine. Just put any
debris, and the wet rag you wipe everything down with afterward, in a
plastic bag and put it in the household garbage.
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