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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:21:38 GMT, notbob <...@nothome.com
On 2009-11-05, r...@realtomargarino.ca <...@realtomargarino.ca
Apparently, it worked.
nb
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On 05 Nov 2009 13:52:26 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
LOL! HAR!
Loser.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 5, 2009 10:24, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Joe
Is RM still complaining about his own stupidity?
RM: Get over it. You abandoned justlinux.ca. I waited a suitable length of
time before making a bid for it, and CIRA let me lease it.
You /obviously/ didn't want it; you got email reminders that the lease was
about to expire, /and/ after your lease expired, you got a grace period of
one month in which you could renew your lease before anyone else could make
a bid. You neglected to renew, ignored the email reminder, and refused to
release the domain name during the grace period. *You abandoned your claim
to justlinux.ca*
Now, I have an interest in Linux. I have written several articles, and
intend to write more. I have long intended to separate my Linux writings
from my personal webpage. I was looking for a suitable name. JustLinux.ca
was just such a name. I bid for a lease on it, and CIRA, finding no
overriding counterbids, leased it to me. What I do with justlinux.ca is
now *my business*, not yours. Remember, *YOU ABANDONED YOUR CLAIM TO THE
DOMAIN*.
I have asked you politely to cease using the justlinux.ca domain name in
your email address, and (with some abusive grumbling on your part) you have
done so. I am even now dealing with your justlinux.ca clientele; you are
aware that you ran an open telnet service, aren't you? I don't run such
services, and have had to block your old clientele from my systems.
Further, you seem to have been a busy boy with email addresses. While my
email service will accept properly addressed justlinux.ca emails, it
rejects those which I have not authorized. I find that people are trying to
reach you at the following addresses:
adis...@justlinux.ca,
liti...@justlinux.ca,
dele...@justlinux.ca,
r.....@justlinux.ca,
r@justlinux.ca,
real...@justlinux.ca,
rm.d...@justlinux.ca,
rm.r...@justlinux.ca, and
r...@justlinux.ca
Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at these
(or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to reject
(550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca email
addresses.
So, RM, get over it.
Cordially,
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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On 05 Nov 2009 17:40:32 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
Outstanding. Just fucking priceless.
Talk about a public spanking! RM has been *completely* pwned!
A classic post, saved for future chuckles.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:38:15 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
Never thought I'd see the day when I was defending low life scum like rm,
but...
All the ones with (delete|remove)this, r... etc - are spambot additions to
the usual rm/realto ones he actually used, he would not have created/used
them.. I see those all the time on this account but s'ing/rm/local_users/,
including mine, and I never use this account in personal corro (unless its
a quick reply to someone on usenet etc) only on some lists and usenet.
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:31:37 -0500, "John K. Herreshoff" <...@not.here
LOL! I've had him plonked for the longest time, so I did not know what was
going on with him.
Cordially ;-)
John.
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Using the Laptop at home.
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Anonymous Wrote:
John K. Herreshoff <...@not.here
And you still don't know, sweetie, not if you are using Pitcher as a
source, because he doesn't have a clue.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:15:17 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 5, 2009 13:31, in alt.os.linux.slackware, John K. Herreshoff
Since he started his personal attacks on me, I've plonked him as well. I
only knew he posted something because Dan C, Joe, SL/AC, and notbob all
responded to him.
With great pleasure :-)
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
And do you honestly think anyone believes that?
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 05 Nov 2009 18:02:25 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.:
471 abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at r...@realtomargarino.ca
Admitted, that's a little bit too cord(iall)ite, and the MX doesn't answer yet, but...
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:14:31 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 5, 2009 13:02, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
I thought of that, but...
1) I /do/ host email addresses in the justlinux.ca domain. I have no
desire to mislead /my/ correspondants in such a manner.
2) Taking such a step (I've considered replying to that list with a
550 "RM no longer lives here" or similar) would only exacerbate the
situation. I have no desire to hose RM that way, even though his
behaviour may warrant it and it would be a legally acceptable
approach on my part.
In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in the foot.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:09:21 +0000, ".Martin." <...@gmail.com
Wow, I don't know what this is all about but the guy actually did you a
big favour promoting your website:)
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
Why don't you just post all the email you get addressed to us at
r...@justlinux.ca?
Should be good for a laugh, no?
Sure, just post all the email you get. And show us the ip addresses
of those who tried to telnet to justlinux.ca.
You are either too full of shit ... or you are too stupid to
understand how the internet works...
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 05 Nov 2009 18:36:55 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:14:31 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
that'd be easy to cope with.
neither did I and I supposed that was the same with you, I guess
that I just tried to be funny after a too heavily loaded double Monday today
and I miserably failed at it :D)
True, AAMOF some loonies inside my domains deserved that treat (and of
course it accelerated the solving of that "mysterious mail routing problem"
they had) but to do it for an external concern is a bit harsh, at least.
And that's the best attitude ever.
Besides, we all have a somewhat limited quantity of feet while the
subweapons are too many to even think about puking on them all in a go.
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Anonymous Wrote:
Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid
Now, now. Don't suddenly get stupid on us.
Come right out and ask Mr. Pitcher to post all the email he receives
at that address.
We defy _anyone_ to show us one use of justlinux.ca that we have
made, outside of posting to this ng, in 5 years.
Anyone. Show us how much irritation you have caused us. Show us
even one thing that you have done that inconveniences us in any way.
Any way at all. Everybody would love to see it.
Justify the financial investment you made in justlinux.ca.
Show Dan C how clever you are.
Try using gmail, or hotmail. These services are commensurate with
your abilities.
You don't even know how to pull the trigger, sweetie.
The _only_ reason we are "complaining" now is because we are bored
and we just wanted to generate some bandwidth...
And we succeeded. You could never do that on your own, could you?
That's because we have a fan base and none of the rest of you do.
We are not going to check the stats, but we're willing to bet that
traffic has increased by 100% or more since we made our latest
return to this ng.
cordially, as always,
rm
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Anonymous Wrote:
Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid
The only people who would be sending mail to that address would be
those too stupid to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
domain, right?
And you do know that realtomargarino.ca has not been setup with DNS
servers, right?
Maybe some of you will learn something out of this after all...
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 07 Nov 2009 10:08:03 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000, rm did cat :
that's why the recipe was to put the wear on the loony sender,
it seems you're not fully back awaken from hibernation, I've
read you in the past on a better shape ;-)
Yes, after all I should.
at least that was the case when I checked, so I was sure the recipe
wouldn't do any harm to other than the lost senders.
Well, you know, "the small difference between you and me is
a little something you don't know yet" (can't remember the
original author, sorry) ;->
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:51:50 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
OK, so just /one/ more response. This is too good to pass up :-)
On November 7, 2009 05:08, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
~ $ whois realtomargarino.ca
Domain name: realtomargarino.ca
Domain status: EXIST
Approval date: 2009/10/17
Renewal date: 2011/10/17
Updated date: 2009/10/17
Registrar:
Name: SIBERNAME INTERNET AND SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGIES INC.
Number: 108
Name servers:
ws1.sibername.com
ws2.sibername.com
% WHOIS look-up made at 2009-11-07 16:49:16 (GMT)
%
% Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its Legal
% Notice, available at http://www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
%
% (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority, (http://www.cira.ca/)
~ $ ping -c 3 realtomargarino.ca
PING realtomargarino.ca (64.247.58.248) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=66.2 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
--- realtomargarino.ca ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.123/66.191/66.254/0.216 ms
~ $
It appears that RM /has/ a DNS server, and doesn't know about it.
For that matter, http://realtomargarino.ca/ works as well; RM: If you didnt'
know, you have a webserver up.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"
He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 07 Nov 2009 18:53:00 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:51:50 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
Yes, that's a pity, he's not half the noise he used to be, lithium
can be nasty when too deep and long...
Yep, though I was only interested in the possible mail routing but
now's a change from last time I tried it (or its TTL was just outta tune
with the simple point where and when I did), the domain now has an MX setup:
-----------
$ dig realtomargarino.ca mx
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;; ANSWER SECTION:
realtomargarino.ca. 14400 IN MX 10 mail.realtomargarino.ca.
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which would make the fun with loonies recipe a double bind one.
Now, "the door once opened then shut" and this thread's over.
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Anonymous Wrote:
Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"
He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
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Anonymous Wrote:
Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid
The registrar also gave us primary and secondary dns. That's nice,
but we didn't ask for them.
Nonetheless, the issue is whether justlinux.ca had dns. They
did not have them recently. And, it appears, they never will have
them again.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:32:59 -0800, Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
On 2009-11-05, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
I love that the first ''testimonial'' at the cira.ca front page is a
hockey tape vendor. :)
I tried finding this information, but could not find an explicit rule:
are you required to be a Canada resident in order to register a .ca
domain? The only thing I found is a blurb on their "why CA" page:
"Identify yourself as Canadian: Dot-ca is Canada's Internet identity,
reserved for Canadians, recognized and trusted worldwide."
That certainly implies that you must be Canadian, but if that's the only
statement about it it's possible there's some loophole (e.g., going
through a Canadian registrar that doesn't check residency/citizenship).
(Not that I'm looking to register a .ca domain, just curious.)
This incident should be a good reminder to those of us with domains to
make sure we're on top of them if we still want them. whois is a very
handy tool for verifying when domain registrations are about to expire.
--keith
(leavessuck.ca still available!)
--
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
see X- headers for PGP signature information
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:47:25 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 5, 2009 14:32, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Keith Keller
According to http://cira.ca/faq-canadian-presence-requirements/
"What are Canadian Presence Requirements?"
"Canadian presence requirements are criteria that classify Registrants
according to legal type (e.g., as a company or an individual). The legal
type determines whether Registrants are eligible to register dot-ca
domain names and ensures that Registrants have a legal connection to
Canada. CIRA requires potential Registrants to establish Canadian
presence requirements before granting them a dot-ca domain."
"What is a legal type?"
"A legal type is a category that classifies a Registrant’s legal status
in Canada as defined in the document Canadian Presence Requirements for
Registrants. A dot-ca Registrant must conform to at least one legal type
to meet CIRA’s Canadian presence requirements. The legal type categories
are the following:
1. Canadian citizen
2. Permanent resident of Canada
3. Legal representative of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident
4. Corporation (Canada or Canadian province or territory)
5. Trust established in Canada
6. Partnership registered in Canada
7. Canadian unincorporated association
8. Canadian trade union
9. Canadian political party
10. Canadian educational institution
11. Canadian library, archive or museum
12. Canadian hospital
13. Her Majesty the Queen
14. Indian band recognized by the Indian Act of Canada
15. Aboriginal Peoples (individuals and groups) indigenous to Canada
16. Government or government entity in Canada
17. Trade-mark registered in Canada (by a non-Canadian owner)
18. Official marks registered in Canada"
"Where can I find more information on CIRA's Canadian Presence
requirements?"
"For further information, please refer to the document Canadian Presence
Requirements for Registrants
(http://cira.ca/assets/Documents/Legal/Registrants/CPR.pdf)"
HTH
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:03:36 -0800, Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
On 2009-11-05, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
Thanks a bunch. I finally did find this document; though really I
should have been able to find it myself. Oy, I'm gettin' old.
Not that it's our business, but which of the below are you?
I assume not Her Majesty. :)
--keith
--
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:25:01 -0800 (PST), Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On Nov 5, 5:03 pm, Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-
francisco.ca.us
I'm a Canadian citizen. I presume that RM is as well, or at least that
he falls into one of the first three catagories. CIRA has erected a
privacy boundary around WHOIS information; if the domain lessor falls
into one of the first three categories, WHOIS won't release the
personal information (name, address, phone #, etc) for the domain's
lessor, administration, or technical contact. You have to go through a
cira.ca webpage to contact the domain contact list.
Only on alternate Saturdays ;-)
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Anonymous Wrote:
Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
He just lives a few miles from us, although he didn't realize this
when he started this nonsense.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 05 Nov 2009 19:38:54 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:32:59 -0800, Keith Keller did cat :
"Ich bin ein canadair!"
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Anonymous Wrote:
Hallo, Loki,
Du meintest am 05.11.09:
"Vive le Canada! Vive le Quebec! ..."
Viele Gruesse
Helmut
"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
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On 06 Nov 2009 16:32:28 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:23:26 -0500, Joe did cat :
oh yeah, but seems you just missed the pun :-)
A Canadair is a very useful and appreciated water bombardier plane
very useful for forest fires, and the Canada is much appreciated
in my country (.fr) and the mimicked expression from JFK was
just as plain clumsy as the one I suggested, after all I prefer to
be helped by a yellow orange plane than by a greasy sausage.
Well, of course it is much less funny when dissected...
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:31:05 +0000, steveski <...@invalid.com
I didn't know that a Berliner had sausage in it. I thought it was a dessert
pastry. Thanks - You learn something new everyday :-)
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Steveski
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On 06 Nov 2009 17:40:47 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:31:05 +0000, steveski did cat :
Yup, though I wouldn't bet that a german donut is more far from
a greasy sausage than from a dessert pastry ;D)
And anyway, the special usage is in "ein" not in "Berliner"
but that made some noise at the time, like some "reporters"
in those days were already ahad of their era and ready to
dive down into the wonderful world of chatting about Brit'sPears
or Hilton bettings. Really, the XXth century was even shorter
than the 27 or 28 years it usually represents ;->
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Anonymous Wrote:
Hallo, steveski,
Du meintest am 06.11.09:
OMG!!!111
A "Berliner" is either a citizen of the town Berlin or a kind of
doughnut. The citizen may contain sausages. The doughnut doesn't.
I know - that's independent from the actual slackware version.
Viele Gruesse
Helmut
"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:25:17 -0800, Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
On 2009-11-06, Helmut Hullen <...@hullen.de
BTW, if it's in Wikipedia, it must be true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#Jelly_doughnut_urban_legend
As to whether a Berliner contains sausages, I thought it was pretty much
a given that all German cuisine contains sausage. Doesn't German
lettuce contain sausage? I think even the air over Germany contains
sausages. :)
--keith
--
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
see X- headers for PGP signature information
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Anonymous Wrote:
Joe <...@undisclosed.invalid
Mr. Pitcher lives in the middle of the tobacco belt in southwestern
Ontario.
And so do we!
We could post his exact address - it's listed in 411.ca. But this
way he can't prove that we know where he lives...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cordially, as always,
rm
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Anonymous Wrote:
Joe <...@undisclosed.invalid
Whatever you say, Joe.
cordially, as always,
rm
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Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
A suitable length of time? What, about 5 seconds?
No, we didn't receive any reminders. If we had, we probably would
have renewed.
You say that just to make you feel good.
The fact remains, you didn't point out to us that it expired. And
you didn't ask us if we minded if you took over a domain name that
had been registered to us for 7 years.
Har.
Bullshit. Although your implicit acknowledgement of your own lack
of creativity is obvious.
But you won't have any more luck drumming up a readership even if
you do use our domain name.
Hell, all we have to do is make a single post to this newsgroup and
we generate more response that your entire lifetime readership.
Yep, a real class act. We didn't abandon anything but more
important, you took no steps at all to ascertain that we abandoned
the site, or simply overlooked the renewal.
Since we were still using the name on our home server, it is clear
that we did not abandon the name. You took it in a lame attempt to
curry favour with the hoard that reads this newsgroup. After all,
they're the only ones who give a shit.
You took our domain name in an attempt to curry favour with the
likes of Dan C.
And that is absolutely pathetic.
We never ran an open anything. In fact, we haven't had a DNS
pointing to that name in years.
But we always had assholes knocking on the door, though. That's the
price of being a real presence on the internet. Once the small fry
figure out that the name is registered to you, they'll stop.
Don't worry. You're safe.
The fact remains, that you paid good money in a lame attempt to
annoy us, and all your "plans" notwithstanding, you will never do
anything with justlinux.ca. If you had planned to do something you
would have registered a name that you selected that was more
descriptive of what you planned to do.
You're outed. If you do use justlinux.ca for anything it will only
be to prove us wrong. And you'll have to prove us wrong to maintain
approval from the hoard. All that work to seek the approval of Dan
C, et al?
Oh, and you do know that you live within an hour's driving distance?
Sleep tight.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:56:31 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
why the fuck should he, is he your personal assistant or something....
BTW moron, the registrars have a cooling off hold period on expired
domains, so if it expired today, he couldnt register it for, IIRC, at
least 30 days, used to be (or still might be), 60 days.
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Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:11:19 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 6, 2009 18:56, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Res (re...@ausics.net)
wrote:
Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.
Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA sends a
reminder email to the registered holder at their registered email address
(I surmise that RM changed his email address without informing CIRA), and
sends a copy of the reminder to the registrar. The registrar /usually/
reminds the registrant via email.
CIRA's "hold" period is 30 days. RM's lease on justlinux.ca expired on
September 3, and I bid on it on October 11. As I said, I waited a suitable
time: 7 days past the last point that RM could have renewed his lease on
justlinux.ca.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
[deletia]
Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
result.
No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
was executed, again, because of your little prank?
You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
innocent people.
True, we would be legally liable. But you and you alone would be
morally responsible.
You are a real class act. And since you can't adress this
criticism, you'll pretend that you haven't read it. But everyone,
at least those smart enough to have our respect, will know how
pathetic you truly are.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:44:10 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
wahh , wahhhhh , WAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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On 07 Nov 2009 04:12:33 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:54:06 +0000, rm whined:
But you're not. Strawman strike one.
But you're not. Strawman strike two.
Nothing was "hijacked". You've been told how it played out, numerous
times. You fucked up and didn't renew it. Your fault, and yours alone.
And you are not.
Bugger off, troll.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:57:27 -0800, Handover Phist <...@jason.websterscafe.com
r...@LewPitcherIsGay.com :
Wow. Just, wow. You run a mailserver for a medical facility but don't
make sure you still have the domain? Holy crap you deserve to get fired!
You run a site to get someone off of death row who is innocent and you
allow the domain to expire? Massive fail!
It is the administrators job to run the site, and ensure the domain is
paid for.
Wow. It's very rare to see this type of response to ones own failure.
The attachment of blame to another for your obvious failure..... someone
aughta write a paper or something.
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Peace was the way.
-- Kirk, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate unknown
http://www.websterscafe.com
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Anonymous Wrote:
Handover Phist <...@jason.websterscafe.com
That's right. And, as we stated below, we would be legally liable.
Duh. Reading problems, still, huh?
But we wouldn't be _morally_ at fault. Mr. Pitcher would be
_morally_ at fault for any such hypothetical death.
Now we realize that doesn't mean much to you ...
Gee, we've already made that point.
True enough. But we are talking about the moral responsibility of a
human being. Apes like you would never understand.
So run along.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:03:51 -0500, Old Man <...@witch.lan.invalid
Let's just say the moon is made of cheese, and you fitted your dog with a
rocket pack and pressure suit, and he ate the moon. And let's just say
tsunamis resulted and whole coastal populations were wiped out.
Yeah, how will people take it when you say, "Sorry about the tidal
disruption, but see, my dog ate the moon."
Oh, you Canadians and your death row. Always executing some poor innocent
slob.
Wait, wait, I know - Let's say rm has "a real presence on the internet" and
it slipped his mind or something.
<snip--
Old Man
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:35:11 +0000, Robby Workman <...@rlworkman.net
On 2009-11-07, r...@LewPitcherIsGay.com <...@LewPitcherIsGay.com
You don't get to decide what someone else's morals are.
-RW
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Anonymous Wrote:
Robby Workman <...@rlworkman.net
We more or less share morality. If we didn't we would live in
anarchy and chaos.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:33:32 -0500, Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
when someone new can claim it.
But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of such
an important thing as you describe. If it was important to you, you
should have been keeping track of when it was going to expire. I know
someone who lost their domain and it was pounced on immediately, but she
was pretty careless to not be paying attention. That is the sort of
carpetbagger we are now seeing, the clueless coming to the internet,
"knowing" all that they need to know, but then they can't even keep track
of their domain registration? She was running a business, and stupidly
named her business after the domain name, so when she lost it, there went
her business name. How stupid can you be to let that happen?
Michael
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Anonymous Wrote:
Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
Not the moral issue. Moral fault would definitely lie with the one
who took deliberate action in the face of potentially dire
circumstances. Certainly we would be legally at fault. And you can
argue that we are incompetent.
But the person who stole the domain name causing death is quite
arguably evil.
We have conceded that.
Nonsense. There is nothing "clueless" about making a simple
mistake. We have been renewing the domain for 7 years. Nothing
clueless at all.
If anyone is clueless, it is Pitcher for hijacking the name simply
to annoy us and potentially causes dire results. And if anyone else
is clueless it is boobs like you who can't see that what he did was
irresponsible and morally reprehensible.
If anyone had died, it would have been partially our fault for
making a mistake. But it would be partially his fault for acting in
an evil malicious manner.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:46:55 -0600, ~kurt <...@earthlink.net
Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
rm was in between meds....
Too funny seeing how agitated he is over it. You would think such an
accomplished troll would be better at hiding this.
- Kurt
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Anonymous Wrote:
~kurt <...@earthlink.net
And how is this kind of thing helpful?
The fact that we are discussing it does not mean that we are
"agitated."
We think that it would have been just as gutless an act if he had
stolen your long-held domain simply because you forgot to renew it.
But that is an intellectual response, not an emotional reaction.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:58:55 -0800, Keith Keller <...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.
--keith
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kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:35:59 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 6, 2009 22:58, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Keith Keller
I should point out that RM's lease on the name expired at the beginning of
that 30 day period. At that point (September 3), the registrar marked
justlinux.ca as SUSPended, and the justlinux.ca DNS entry was expunged. As
of Sept 3, justlinux.ca ceased to exist as a DNS-resolvable domain name.
The 30 day period gives the previous lessor an opportunity to change his
mind about giving up the domain name. Only RM could have put in a bid for
justlinux.ca during that time. But, the domain would still have been
unresolvable until /someone/ bid for it (either RM during the 30 day
window, or /anyone/ after that window).
So, to conclude,
RM abandoned his claim to justlinux.ca by
failing to have his registrar "autorenew" his registration,
ignoring the re-registration notices issued by both CIRA and his registrar,
and failing to register justlinux.ca during the 30 day suspension period
Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.
And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.
PS: RM, you stay plonked.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop a 100 dollar bill. He seized
it, waved it in the old lady's face, and cried, "It's mine! Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" Then he phoned up Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:42:45 -0500, Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
On November 7, 2009 11:35, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Lew Pitcher
[snip]
OK, so I lied, a little.
FWIW, CIRA announces weekly all domain names that have not been renewed by
the end of the suspension period. This weeks list of 3663 names can be
found at http://ro.cira.ca/tbrlist_p?datet=2009/11/11
Perhaps RM would be interested in one of these names. I could make a few
suggestions, but...
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"
He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 08 Nov 2009 01:40:05 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
YEAH!!! Hell yeah!
Free beer for everyone in here.
Except RM.
Bugger off, troll.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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Anonymous Wrote:
Lew Pitcher <...@teksavvy.com
You hijacked our domain name with the sole intention of annoying us
and you did so without checking as to whether there would be
consequences. You are not using the address now. You will never
use the address in the future. You are a petty, malicious and
boorish little man, revealed as such to all by the fact that you
wasted no time in alerting the Dan Cs of the world that you hijacked
the domain in a lame attempt to curry favour with them.
What kind of person would care what the Dan Cs of the world think?
Imagine if somebody died because of your attempt to curry favour
with Dan C?
Nice try. Put your hands over your ears and hum. Maybe that'll
work.
We weren't using it anyway so we really don't care. But that does
not change the fact that you did was quite reprehensible. A
reasonable and responsible person would have reminded us that we
hadn't renewed, and, if he truly wanted the domain, he would have
asked if we minded if he could have had it.
Your attempt to curry favour with Dan C could have had serious
ramifications to innocent persons. Somebody could have died. You
could have cost somebody a ton of dough and all for a nod of
approval from trash much like yourself.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 08 Nov 2009 01:44:56 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:45:28 +0000, rm whined:
No, he simply registered an available domain name, that the previous
owner had chosen not to renew. There *are* no consequences to that.
Ummmm.... yes, he is. Put the address into your browser, dimwit.
Huh? How did I get involved?
Of course you do. You wouldn't be in here constantly whining about it if
you didn't care.
Huh? WTF are you talking about, you silly loon?
and all for a nod of approval from trash much like yourself.
LOL! How could "somebody have died"? You said yourself that you weren't
even using the domain name. WTF are you talking about, whacko?
Bugger off, ignorant troll.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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Anonymous Wrote:
Dan C <...@lan.invalid
We had to pick someone to represent the lowest common denominator.
Think of it as something like the "missing link."
You'll never, ever, know.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:49:16 -0500, Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
I don't know if it's long enough or not. Since I could point to a real
world example of someone losing their domain by a pouncer, I definitely
can see that it is important not to lose the domain name, when one is
actually using it.
But I also did say that one has to be pretty stupid to not keep track of
this sort of thing. My main point was that it sure wasn't Lew's place to
remind or warn someone before taking over the domain. If it's important,
the owner would be making sure contact information is up to date, and
would mark the calendar and do all kinds of things to remind themselves
to renew the domain name registration.
Michael
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Anonymous Wrote:
Michael Black <...@ncf.ca
Pouncer is the right word. And we weren't actually using it.
Either that, or we really didn't care. From time to time we need a
domain name for experimental reasons and it doesn't really matter
what it is.
Well, it's a simple courtesy that should be observed among
acquaintances. But, since he is a "pouncer" as you stated above,
courtesy is quite irrelevant.
Absolutely right. And we admitted that.
On the other hand, we all make mistakes. Apparently Mr. Pitcher is
the type of person who would take advantage of that mistake for the
sole purpose of entertaining other posters. He has no use for
justlinux.ca, and he never will have a use for it, unless of course,
he is shamed into it by us.
His sole reason for pouncing on the domain was to entertain other
degenerates.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
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On 08 Nov 2009 01:52:29 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:07:16 +0000, rm cried:
Well, it's obvious that you *do* care, by the amount of whining you're
doing about it. The Poor Innocent Victim routine. Obvious and
pathetic. So, since you do care, the only other explanation, as you just
stated above, is that you are pretty stupid.
So why the continued whining?
Bugger off, you whiny little bitch.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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Anonymous Wrote:
Dan C <...@lan.invalid
We're not whining, dumbass. We're simply pointing out that you're
not the only piece of trash that posts to this ng.
Nobody seems to be whining, except for you! Over and over again.
We do believe you are agitated and upset about being displaced to
secondary troll status.
Is nobody paying any attention to you? Is that the problem?
Perhaps you should find a new schtick?
Check out our new, registered domain name - lewpitcher.ca
cordially, even to whiny little bitches,
rm
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Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:03:05 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
RM finally admits he's a piece of trash!
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:43:33 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
Most likley the case, or he has a filter that trashed it as spam, either
way, it is not your problem, the domain was free for anyone, would he be
here bitching like a little girl if teh daomin was snapped up by say, Shaw
or perhaps Linus himself? I think we all know the answer to that one don't
we :)
More than adequate wait time I'd say.
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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Anonymous Wrote:
Res <...@ausics.net
What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
registered using dran...@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam
at that address, we changed to dran...@gmale.com (or something
like that) and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.
The fact remains, Pitcher hijacked the domain we held for seven
years just to annoy us. He has zero interest in actually using it.
The classy thing for him to do is return it.
And that should go without saying...
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 07 Nov 2009 10:13:02 GMT, Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:34:15 +0000, rm did cat :
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It is now clearer. After all those years of howling you didn't
know who 'maynard' and 'dranyam' were, you finally believed in
your self deny. The moral is tautologic and logic's safe ,-)
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Anonymous Wrote:
Loki Harfagr <...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid
What does Manyard have to do with dranyamlr?
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:39:27 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.
it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
it.
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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Anonymous Wrote:
Res <...@ausics.net
We weren't running any services with that domain during that 30 day
period.
That's obvious. That's why we kept renewing it for seven years.
Are you burned out or just switched off?
less cordial than usual,
rm
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:07:45 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
deputy chief troll.
for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
if you wernt running it for a month.
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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Anonymous Wrote:
Res <...@ausics.net
And who would be Chief Troll? You?
It wasn't much of anything, not currently. But now that
Mr. Pitcher has it, it will never be used for anything.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:57:27 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
your cousin, ANC
so for seven years it wasnt much of anything, adn was never going to be
anyting, until someone liked the name and found it available at the
registrar and decided to do something with it which is more than you did,
or were you only ever just 'domain squating'
I think someone has already proved that wrong
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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Anonymous Wrote:
Res <...@ausics.net
No, we used it quite a bit in the past. And we would have used it
again in the future.
No. Nobody "liked the name and found it available." Lew Pitcher
did a whois seeking to cause trouble and discovered that we weren't
paid up.
So instead of bringing this to our attention, he simply stole the
domain name.
We can't believe you are this stupid. It seems you are being
obtuse. We aren't going to play with you until you grow up.
What do you think of our new, registered, domain name?
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:29:07 +1000, Res <...@ausics.net
we cant believe you are so stupid as to be here nearly 2 weeks later
still crying your puny eyes out because you fucked up, nobody needs
to bring shit to your attention trollboi, nobody here is your PA, its up
to you to ensure the registrar has valid reachable details, you failed, much
like everything else in your life, fail Fail, FAIL!
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
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Anonymous Wrote:
Res <...@ausics.net
But we didn't fail to register Lewpitcher.ca and Lewpitcher.com!
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 5 Nov 2009 12:52:53 +0100, Sidney Lambe <...@nospam.invalid
On alt.os.linux.slackware, r...@realtomargarino.ca <...@realtomargarino.ca
From the site:
A Prisoner of Windows (Part 1)
We who use Linux desktops sometimes forget that most of our peers
do not have our luxuries. At times, we find ourselves forced to
devolve, and use a Windows desktop to do our work. When we do, we
pine for the vast variety of tools we had under Linux and curse
the clumsiness of the software prison that we are locked into.
http://justlinux.ca/ArticlesIndex
The tools he refers to have nothing to do with the GDEs, the
'Linux Desktop'. These are just suites of graphical apps that
include those tools and they do not need the GDE to be used.
Furthermore, the GDEs are Windows-clone interfaces and anyone
who uses them _is_ a prisoner of Windows.
Sid
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:24:51 -0500, Chick Tower <...@deadspam.com
Nice attempt to hijack the thread to serve your own personal agenda, Sid.
And to add in unrelated newsgroups.
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Chick Tower
For e-mail: aols2 DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net
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On 08 Nov 2009 18:39:55 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
Nobody took the bait of responding to him, except you...
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"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:11:11 -0500, Chick Tower <...@deadspam.com
Nah, we're both probably in his kill-file. He won't see any of this, and
be sure to tell us he didn't see it, too.
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Chick Tower
For e-mail: aols2 DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net
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Anonymous Wrote:
Chick Tower <...@deadspam.com
We don't have a killfile. We have very seldom seen the need for
one. It's not difficult to skip authors we don't wish to read.
But the one who uses an imaginary killfile, as he demonstrated in
this very thread, is the classy fellow who stole our domain name.
We remain flattered that he had to use a name that we created,
rather than come up with one himself.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:55:24 +0000 (UTC), A Guy Called Tyketto <...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
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Why are you even here?
Aww... still crying over the fact that you got pwned?
Flattered? I would come up with something witty to say here,
but I'll just be blunt: you *FAIL*.
Oh wait! I just registered RogerMaynardBlowzGoatz.com! I'll
post some pictures of you (and you and you and you and you) on it
caught in the act with a couple goats using some lotion from the Body
Shop!
You being cordial is like using an anal cranial shunt for an
enema.
BL.
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Brad Littlejohn | Email: tyke...@sbcglobal.net
Unix Systems Administrator, | tyke...@ozemail.com.au
Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :) | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto
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On 10 Nov 2009 03:14:50 GMT, Dan C <...@lan.invalid
Hehe! Hey, I just registered RealtoMargarinoSucksDonkeys.org! Plenty of
pics to put on there as well... This should be fun!
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"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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Anonymous Wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto <...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
pgp trash troll delete
cordially, as always,
rm
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