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Blue Dog Democrats listen up, yesterday's election was Death Blow to Obamacare

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:10:27 -0900, "US Army Veteran" <...@invalid.com

Chris Christie's gutsy win in New Jersey puts the arrogant big spender Jon
Corzine in his place. But it is the election in Virginia that probably has
more to say to marginal Democratic congressmen considering how to vote on
health-care reform.

Obviously, Christie's victory is a body blow to Obama after Corzine outspent
the Republican by five-to-one and the president put on a serious push for
the incumbent. Corzine's defeat sends a message that the nation is moving
sharply against Obama.

But Virginia results are the most important. More than 80 Democratic
congressmen and 20 senators come from states that John McCain carried in
2008. For them, the sudden switch in Virginia, a swing state that Obama
actually carried, heralds tough political times ahead.

New Jersey is the quintessential blue state. If it goes Republican, blue
state congressmen needn't worry. Their districts are likely still safe. But
when a Republican in Virginia wins by 20 points, it sends a message to
red-state Democratic congressmen to take cover.

Polls indicate a declining level of popular approval of the Obama policies
(Rasmussen shows his job approval at 46 percent), but to see actual
Democrats losing or barely squeaking out victories in solidly blue states
sends a far clearer message to the Democrats in Congress.

Until last night, Democratic moderates, the so-called blue dogs, could bask
in the light of their candidate's success in 2008. But now they must hear
hoof beats behind them. The party discipline on which Obama depends to pass
a health-care program that Americans reject by 42 percent for, 55 percent
against (Rasmussen again) will only work if beleaguered Democratic
incumbents can wrap themselves in Obama's cloak and tough out the popular
criticism. But the limits of Obama's drawing power are readily apparent in
the Republicans' 20-point victory in Virginia and the race in New Jersey.

In the coming weeks, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid will be asking their troops to cast potentially career-ending
votes for health-care changes, Medicare cuts, higher taxes and fines on the
uninsured. Whether they take that risk depends on their faith in Obama's
drawing power.

But the votes in Virginia, in particular, show the limits of Obama's appeal.
The winner, Bob McDonnell, won the attorney general's race in the last
election by a few tenths of a percent over the same opponent. That he
coasted to so huge a victory in the swing state of Virginia now has to send
a message to red-state Democratic congressmen: Obama may be able to survive
in the deep water into which he is leading his party, but you can't.



On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:35:56 -0800 (PST), Spartakus <...@my-deja.com

On Nov 4, 10:10 am, "US Army Veteran" <...@invalid.com"US Army Veteran" <...@invalid.com

Yeah. Don't be like Creigh Deeds and run away from the Democratic
Party, health care reform or a progressive agenda. When you do that,
Democratic voters stay home in sufficient numbers to doom your
campaign. You won't make up the difference by trying to attract
conservative voters. They aren't going to vote for you. Instead,
give Democratic voters a reason to vote for you, and you do that by
running as a *Democrat* and supporting Democratic politics.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:11:44 -0500, "Toby" <...@here.net

"US Army Veteran" <...@giganews.com...

Republicans lost another NATIONAL seat. Who cares if they won at the state
level? Oh wait, you do.


On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:15:20 -0800 (PST), "Killing, Inc." <...@gmail.com

On Nov 4, 7:11 pm, "Toby" <...@here.net
Goddamn, leftwingers are stupid!
There are only two, TWO!, elected national seats in the federal
government -- president and vice president.
US senators, governors, and other state officials are elected
statewide and represent their respective states.
US House reps. are elected by their districts and represent 600,000
citizens.

Repubs lost a local election, and won two statewide elections.
Repubs picked up 24 million new constituents. Dems picked up 600,000.

I don't know which MSNBC moron is feeding you these lies, but you need
to get your propaganda from a source that doesn't make you look like a
complete idiot.

Have a nice day.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:25:08 -0800, "Lamont Cranston" <...@EvilWatcher.com

You should destroy whatever drugs you are currently taking
because they appear to have completely destroyed what little
analytical and reasoning skills that you ever had.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:31:51 -0800 (PST), Christopher Helms <...@yahoo.com

On Nov 6, 2:15 am, "Killing, Inc." <...@gmail.com

Let us know how your governors cast their votes for healthcare
reform.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:36:00 -0800 (PST), "Killing, Inc." <...@gmail.com

On Nov 6, 2:31 am, Christopher Helms <...@yahoo.com
And you be sure to let us know how your new House rep. helps you pass
healthcare reform when it's DOA in the Senate.

Have a nice day.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:25:49 -0800, "Lamont Cranston" <...@EvilWatcher.com

LOL! Surrender noted.