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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:21:15 -0800 (PST), Antonio Huerta <...@inbox.com
On Nov 5, 11:13 pm, Old Pif <...@gmail.com
I am not surprised that "democracy" is a swearing word for them.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:12:24 -0500, Me <...@mv.com
That is basically the very short story of the Magna Carta.
And so they got rid of them and established a set of rules
This is basically the story of how the rich nobles paid kings a bribe to
have the king give the nobles various state charters of monopolies. There
were a lot of them.
Human
Well, the human rights were basically limited to the upper 1%, i.e. the
rich.
It is
Actually, at least in English (and French [as in French Revolution]), it
was the politicians who did give _some_ rights to the people (electable
politicians [for whatever good that did]) and some economic rights (eg.
SS, pensions, UE, Nat. Health System, etc) to the people.
I think less shrewd businesss people, and more FDR and some
presidents/politicos that launched Medicare and Medicaid in the USA (etc,)
And what is more
And, its very sad. Corporate loot is being dumped all over Asia and almost
none back here.
I think it is a good question what is going on. Latin America developed at
the same _time_ as the USA, but they are still, generally, at least 50-
100 years behind the first world. They only got stable (?) democracies in
the last few decades.
It is also not new. In ancient democracies for one huge
Women
I am personally not surprised of their sentiments. They
Don't forget that there were a few periods and places where they did
experiment with socialism. Two periods in China, thousands of years ago.
The Incas had 250 years of socialism (no private property, no money). And
various small "communitarian 'cult groups'" and then there was Commune St.
Emilione (I think France), an anarchist factory that manufactured motor
cycles and there were no managers (at least not permanent).
There is actually a large literature on socialist movements, communities,
etc. Some 100 years ago, I get the impression that all of this was much
more on people's minds than today.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:29:45 -0800 (PST), Old Pif <...@gmail.com
On Nov 5, 9:12 am, Me <...@mv.com
Egyptians had that in the Middle Kingdom. Everybody got according to
his place in the hierarchy. No more nor less. Nothing is known how
they dealt with the poor performers. If they threw them to Nile to be
eaten by crocodiles in a generation or two everybody performed top
notch.
Socialism is probably natural reaction of society to the concentration
of capital and power. This idea never comes to the heads of
independent producers. But when the most of the society has NOTHING it
is very appealing.
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