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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:15:54 +0800, "AleXX" <...@nodealyetwithlotsofdeal.net
What about ProFart MohaiMad? and his Allah?
Is he as real as your Jesus and his God?
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"Frankie Lee" <...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
There was a guy, who put his thesis in the net, wrote scientifically
showing Gods existence as irrefutable. Some believe, some dont.
Despite his theory was irrefutable, but who cares then? His works were
ignored. He sank to oblivion.
God said to man, Let us reason together. Bible.
There are hundreds of thousands of volumes written by man, ink and
paper, and now in Internet; apart from the Bible, showing evidence
that God is real and Jesus is the Savior for mankind.
There are so many demons in our world, roaming all across our earth,
and have you encountered one? (This afternoon I just saw one possessed
by Demons.)
There are more Angels here on earth then one could count, have you
seen one?
Death, sicknesses and diseases are part and parcel of our human
existence. Sufferings of humanity knew no bounds, and can anyone deny
its existence?
Evils and deceits are rampant, in business, politics and religions.
Truths are rare commodity.
A simple case studies:
There was a Singapore couple who cross over to Malaysia. Robbers
kidnapped his wife, and demands ransom. Later on, she was found to be
raped, and murdered. The husband went berserk, and suffered great
loss. The robbers were never caught.
Will the Robbers be ever identified, in the next life, or everything
gone to oblivion?
What about our secret deeds, which never came to light? The wrongs we
did to others, or others done to us?
What happen to all the sins we have committed? What about those in
power who did atrocities to humanity, like PolPot of Cambodia and Mao
of China?
Will death erase all our sins, a release or a prison camp for most
sinners? What do you think if all we had is in this life only? What do
you think of human nature?
Do we lie to one another? Even our best friends would deceive us, so
what do you think of those distance from us?
There are few realities coming for us. We are approaching to be sick,
old and diseased. We experience pain and agony and helplessness in
this life over many overwhelming power we cannot control. There is
loneliness, hollowness and unsettling troubles in our hearts and
souls. There is no peace. Have we experience the joy- unspeakable?
There is one unshakable proof, not by mere written letter, or thesis,
or explanations or on one lab; which is repeatable, testable,
empirical, observable which I can show you. It is an experiment.
Wherever you are:
You can open your mouth and call, or they say, pray. Is it not
reasonable for one to call the other line, by phone to see whether He
is there or real? But you speak to theair, just call out His name
and you will get your answers.
Pseudo-folks not allowed, just like those who dont want to know
truths, how to find truths? Humble folks are allowed to pray.(Words
must come out with sound otherwise it is to no avail)
***Say this manner: Dear Lord Jesus, Frankie says I can experiment,
and to know how real or true you are.
I have sins in me.
I want to be clean.
I humble myself.
I need proofs that you are the Savior, and is God. You can freely work
your power in me.
Now I wait.7 days.
Amen.
After the proofs were given you, go to a Church. Read your Bible.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:16:18 -0800 (PST), Ken <...@aol.com
Posting the usual CCPed Fundy BS
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:19:16 -0800 (PST), FreeThink <...@yahoo.com
On Nov 5, 8:11 am, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
You are delusional. Your self-deception is unfortunate.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:38:32 +0000 (UTC), Lars Eighner <...@larseighner.com
In our last episode,
<...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.comlovely and talented Frankie Lee broadcast on alt.atheism:
Fuck you, liar.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/ 289 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Nov 5, 12:38 pm, Lars Eighner <...@larseighner.com
Unless he's thinking of George Hammond. In which case, he *may* not be
a liar-but he's still insane. <g
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:17:24 -0600, Virgil <...@home.esc
In article
<...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
There are as many showing that Brahma is real and the source of all life.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:49:49 -0000, "Sla#s" <...@slatts.net
"Frankie Lee" <...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
There was a guy, who put his thesis in the net, wrote scientifically
showing Gods existence as irrefutable. Some believe, some dont.
Despite his theory was irrefutable, but who cares then? His works were
ignored. He sank to oblivion.
<SNIP
I just read that post hoping to, at last, hear some of this evidence for a
god, any god the theists keep claiming they have but no yet again it was
empty of any content!
Isn't it amazing, is it that we atheist just can't see the evidence even
when they post it - or more likely they see evidence that isn't there... Oh
yes I forgot, they do see evidence that isn't there!
Slatts
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:42:34 -0500, Cory Albrecht <...@hotmail.com
Frankie Lee wrote, on 09-11-05 11:11 AM:
You don't put theses on the 'Net - anybody can put any pile of garbage
on the the 'Net without any form of quality control. Much like your
ramblings full of unsupported assertions, Frankie.
If you want a a thesis to be acknowledged and accepted, you submit it to
an appropriate peer-reviewed journal. There, before publication, it can
get reviewed by legitimately credentialed experts in the field who make
sure that you haven't made any mistakes, that you used accurate data and
so on. After that, publication serves to spread your thesis among the
global community and become known to experts in that field. This way
they, too, can check for mistakes in your work, they can replicate your
experiments to verify that they get the same results as you, they can
point out if you have made any erroneous assumptions or didn't control
for critical variables.
That is how you get a scientific thesis recognized rather than ignored -
not by publishing direct to the Internet like some crank.
Citations, please, or it's just an unsupported assertion.
Unsupported assertion.
Unsupported assertion.
Yeah. So what?
And even rarer where you are concerned, Frankie.
And how is this a "case study"?
Until you can actually verify that there is an afterlife, try asking the
police if those kidnappers will ever be found.
Prove it, Frankie. Provide actual evidence that prayers get answered.
Better yet, show why so many prayers do not get answered, and do so
without asinine rationalizations like "God must have had a plan for all
those bad times in your life".
Bullpuckey. I bet you that even though I go to Church every Sunday that
even if I prayed that, that I would still not have objective verifiable
evidence that God exists.
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:37:25 -0600, Free Lunch <...@nofreelunch.us
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:11:49 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee
<...@yahoo.com
You are lying to us. No one ever showed that "God's existence is
irrefutable". Are you telling that lie of your own free will or because
you are just too stupid to learn anything about reality?
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:08:25 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <...@optonline.net
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:37:25 -0600, Free Lunch <...@nofreelunch.uswrote:
Yes.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:46:40 -0800 (PST), VoiceOfReason <...@cybertown.com
Only someone with weak faith looks for evidence of God.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:23:35 +0100, "thomas p." <...@yahoo.com
And only unreasonable people believe anything based on faith.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:50:57 -0800 (PST), Yap <...@gmail.com
On Nov 6, 12:46 am, VoiceOfReason <...@cybertown.com
Weak faith, strong faith, what the difference?
They all never encounter god since ancient times.
Even your JC was bullshitting that he was god, as if you don't know,
sucker.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:52:08 -0800 (PST), Yap <...@gmail.com
On Nov 6, 12:11 am, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
Perhaps you have forgotten your medicine, you senseless loon.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:02:29 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes <...@cox.net
On Nov 5, 9:11 am, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
And they are...what, exactly? Please list them here, and include a
brief precis of the argument/evidence that each provides, proving that
God is real.
Demons are creatures of mythology. There are no demons. What you saw
was a person suffering from mental illness.
Well, I frequently think my blue-eyed white cat is an angel, as she
nurses me when I'm sick in a most tender and solicitous manner; but
somehow I don't think that's what you're talking about.
You're talking about mythological beings created to serve your god.
Sorry, Frankie, they don't exist any more than demons do.
Guess what? Vampires don't exist, either. Or elves. Or fairies. Or
trolls (outside of Usenet, anyway), or unicorns, or the Tooth Fairy.
Suffering is a normal part of physical life. I think you should read
what The Buddha had to say about suffering.
I've noticed that. I find christianity to be especially evil,
followed closely by islam and scientology.
*Facts*, on the other hand, are *not* rare.
Everything goes to oblivion, Frankie. There is no supernatural
justice in an afterlife. That's why it matters so much that we strive
for justice *here*.
What about them?
My parents taught me that the true measure of human character is what
a person will do when s/he knows s/he will never be caught. I try to
live my life to that standard, and it doesn't much bother me that
other people will get away with bad deeds.
"Sin" is a religious concept. It does not apply to atheists. We
abide by the secular law, and to the best of our ability, try to be
decent to other people and other life forms.
What about them? There is no supernatural justice meted out in the
afterlife, Frankie. Suck it up and deal.
Yes: all we have is this life. There is no afterlife, and no divine
justice. Grow up.
I think it's rather interesting.
My, my, Frankie. You must not have very good or trustworthy friends.
I feel sorry for you.
As to those at a distance? I think they are neither more nor less
venal than anybody else.
Fucking tell me about it. I'm 60 years old, and I have two chronic
health conditions.
However, that doesn't seem to stop me from enjoying my life a whole
big bunch.
Well, I've always suspected that christians are, at heart, control
freaks. I'm not a control freak, so I don't much worry about it.
Pain and agony and periods of helplessness are part of meat life,
Frankie. Those things happen to every animal, from the frogs in the
ponds to the mighty eagle in the sky. I don't obsess about it.
Well, obviously, there are such feelings in *you*. Can't say that I
experience anything similar. I am quite enjoying my life.
<Eye roll
No, dear. That would be talking to ones' self. Anyone who would do
what you suggest is a believer already, and expects results. It's a
well-studied psychological phenomenon.
Rationalists don't believe that talking to ourselves (even if we
address our comments to "God"), and therefore won't get the same
experience.
And just so you know: I grew up a fundamentalist born-again
christian, and it was doing the very thing you suggest that eventually
led me to rationalism. "God" never answered. And I'm not the only
one on this newsgroup for whom the experiment failed.
I'm not much interested in "truths." "Truths" are whatever the guy
currently speaking says they are. You've got your version of
"Truths." The muslims, like Firnando who invades our newsgroup all
the time, have *their* version of "Truths." The scientologists have a
completely different version of "Truths."
Nah, you can keep "Truths." Give me *facts*.
So your god-thingy doesn't respond to silent prayer? That's funny;
the christian fundamentalist church where I grew up preached that god
answered silent, unspoken prayers just as often as spoken prayers. I
wish you christers would get your stories straight.
Read it, lo these 52 years ago and many times thereafter. And I have
been to church. Waste of time.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:35:03 -0800 (PST), haiku jones <...@gmail.com
On Nov 5, 6:02 pm, SkyEyes <...@cox.net
Well, there are in fact demons, in Sarah Palin's Third Wave
Christianity, anyhow. Lots of demons. Some of them are
"Territorial Demons", afflicting entire regions or whole
cities, much like the Ancient Evil in Stephen King novels,
which was there before even the very first humans.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. But not of demons.
Of Sarah.
entire
Based on what you've said here before, saying you've "been to
church" is like saying Bill Gates "is comfortably well off".
Frankie's
God certainly had every opportunity with you.
Haiku Jones
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:20:33 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
On Nov 6, 9:02 am, SkyEyes <...@cox.net
Me: I told you there are hundreds of thousands,too voluminous.Don't
you think it would takes a lifetime of yours?My messages above
contains enough guidance for you to find,where and how.Just go to a
bookstore,under Christian sections,or libraries.
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Me: Wow!You projected on my behalf base on your knowledge of mental
illness folks,describing for me on what I saw!Don't you think,you can
hold neutral grounds,or disbelieve my words,or believe my words,but
projected for me base on your assumptions,isn't that lame?
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Me: Just say "I don't know",it suffice,rather than merry go round.
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Me: You are again being frank,for describing your lack of experience
with demons.
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***I reject the notions that suffering is anything,but normal.There is
a yearnings in all of us to reject that but there is a real urge in us
to get help,and be well,and live happily ever after.
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***Christianity,whose commandments was sum up in these two phrase:
Love God and Love your neighbors.
Obviously you nailed yourself to a corner,rantings to get attention of
your bad observations.
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Me***Agreed.
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Me: So,those robbers get to enjoy the ransom money,live comfortably
and happily ever after,and upon death,their sins are erase.That poor
chap,lost monies,suffered the trauma that his wife was raped and
tortured to death,and for the rest of his life,lived in misery.
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Me: It doesn't bother you?In your own words,you encouraged wicked
doers,even had no hint or clue what you had affirmed!
You live a wasted life!
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Me: Sin meant doing immoral deeds,telling
lies,idolaters,murders,etc..It applies to all.
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Me: Touch your heart when you wrote that.
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Me: It is a prelude to a greater degree of sufferings,coming soon.
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Me:As a kid,demons kept coming to me after night falls,and grab
me,something like chains.It goes on for 3 long years.One of twice
encounter at least they could say I am hallucinating,but for 3 years!
After I called on the name of the Lord Jesus then I am freed.
Trust me,the Bible says the god of this world blinded your eyes,held
you bondage,I know it to be true.
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**Never.I experience Christ's love and His unspeakable joys in
me,occasionally.
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***I gave a fair and most reasonable form of experiments.A solid
proof,easily tested.Here you are,touching on silly explanations.You
are not skeptics to begin with.Do it and you see the results,otherwise
tell me,it isn't a fair experiments?
Jesus is alive,and millions can testify on Him.Can that be trivial?All
science experiments begin with 'assumptions",but they experiment.
What then is testable,if you don;t test?What then verifiable,if you
don;t verified Him?What then is repeatable?You sure lack common
sense,nor are you anything near to be an Intelligent person.
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Me: Fundamentalist believe in letters,dead religion.Here I am showing
is a live experiments.Who can argue on that?I know it won't fail,for I
have never seen it to have failed,in all of my life!!!!!!!!!!
You will thank me if you do as I say,experiment!You must be thankful
to have read my messages,for many are deprived of the manifold wisdom
of words such as mine.Do it.God loves you.
In my natural carnal flesh,I would prefer to leave you to die and
rot,rather than show you great things,for you are a crook and nut
according to my definition and analysis.
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Me: You have no idea what you are saying.Everyone can claim
anything,but truths is only one,and it is definite.
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***God shouldn't answer silent prayers.Here you are talking to a live
person,not some mysterious person.God deals with you as a normal
rational being,but you think being in silent prayer works?The
scriptures never show any silent prayer.See how you are deceived by
silly denomination then.No wonder,your experiment fail.
Do as I say,exactly.Ridicule me as much as you want,if you fail the
experiments that I propose.God honors my words,and allow such proofs
for a time being.Don't think that my offer is forever.
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:17:51 +0000, Sanity's Little Helper <...@noshpam.org
It is an ancient Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
No facts are gleaned from reasoning. Belief and faith, in fact, are
reasoning without facts.
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
"Christian" (n). A person who views insulting non-Christians as a sacred
duity, and any response as persecution
Not authentic without this signature.
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:26:39 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <...@getnet.net
< Nothing of value Prove with objective evidence, that there is a god, any god, I don't
care which god, you pick it.
After you have completed part one, we can then argue about if the god
you've proven is yours or not.
But you haven't even started on step one. So there is no evidence at
all that your Jesus buddy is what you claim he is.
Keep your imaginary friends to yourself.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://azhotops.blogspot.com
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
BAAWA Knight Sir Karl of the Solaris Media
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:38:02 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
On Nov 6, 1:26 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <...@getnet.net
***Hello,have you done business in your life?Have you ever been to a
school?Have you ever use a telephone?
I am introducing you to a person,alive and well.I know Him,and you
don't know Him.So you want proves of Him as real person.That He is
really God.
Do the experiment than answer me.Or else,you are a bluff.
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:27:51 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <...@getnet.net
Your asinine questions server no purpose. Your imaginary friend does
not use telephones, or computers. It lives in your addled brain, and
nowhere else.
What's the matter skippy? You ain't up to the challenge?
Prove, with objective evidence that there is a god, any god, I don't
care which god, you pick it. Then we'll argue about whether or not, it
is your god.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://azhotops.blogspot.com
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
BAAWA Knight Sir Karl of the Solaris Media
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:49:49 +0800, "AleXX" <...@nodealyetwithlotsofdeal.net
"Frankie Lee" <...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 6, 1:26 am, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <...@getnet.net
What type of business are you referring to?
What type of school are you talking about?
What brand or model of telephone you are talking about?
What type of person, alive and well you are talking about?
What type of "Him" and what type of proves of "Him" as a real person are you
talking about?
What type of God you are talking about?
What type of experiment and answer you are taling about?
Or else, a Freak like youself are a bluff and full of shit?
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:46:54 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <...@gmail.com
On Nov 5, 11:11 am, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
Your rhetoric is getting stale. The very nature of PROOF is that they
are not invisible. Evidence is repeatable, testable, and
verifiable. Only in this way can you have proof. Proof is above
board, and unafraid to step into the light.
What you have is fable, based on the writings of ancient goatherders,
who most likely got a hold of some bad grain.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:32:31 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
On Nov 6, 1:46 am, Jimbo <...@gmail.com
***Only in this way can you have proof. Proof is above
board, and unafraid to step into the light.
Me: I agree.
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:11:58 -0800 (PST), "Syd M." <...@yahoo.com
On Nov 5, 10:32 pm, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
Alright, so go on and post some.
PDW
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:00:06 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <...@gmail.com
On Nov 5, 10:32 pm, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
Then why don't you present this evidence? Empirical, subjective
evidence? Something that doesn't amountt to "Well, I can't explain
it, so it must be my god!!!"
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:06:39 -0600, Free Lunch <...@nofreelunch.us
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:00:06 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <...@gmail.comwrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Frankie's got lots of subjective 'evidence'. Empirical, not so much.
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:52:43 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <...@gmail.com
On Nov 6, 10:06 am, Free Lunch <...@nofreelunch.us
LOL! I meant to say "substantive" there. My bad.
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:00:16 -0600, Free Lunch <...@nofreelunch.us
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:52:43 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <...@gmail.comwrote in alt.talk.creationism:
No prob.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:23:43 -0800 (PST), "Jesus Christ , St. Mary 's cunt ' s faithful Fucker , is the Unique son of God" <...@gmail.com
Fankie Lee the Chinese Chink,
when you want me ,
just call out my name ,
n Nov 5, 8:11 am, Frankie Lee <...@yahoo.com
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