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On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:22:52 GMT, Duncan Patton a Cambpell <...@neotext.ca
Give it a rest. We all know the CBC is reporting from a War Zone
from one side. Of course their gonna put a plug in for Israel:
it's that or take their chances on the ground with Hamas.
I gotta say my respect for Hamas' political acumen has seriously
dropped over the last few months. Unless they've decided they
prefer Israeli occupation to encirclement those Kazzams make no
sense at all.
Dhu
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Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:43:39 GMT, Duncan Patton a Cambpell <...@neotext.ca
Ok, so we all know about how individuals under grave stress act in
irrational ways to alert others to some imminent problem they don't
understand.
Now consider Hamas' situation. In strictly material terms they
would be far better off as a part of Israel than with their own
micro-pseudo-state.
So they fire up the Kazzams, which inflict pretty much the maximum
terror with the minimum physical damage of any weapon since the
invention of bagpipes.
Contrast this with Israel's response. Did Hamas so misread their
opposition or are they so desperate that they don't care anymore?
Israel has pretty much got recognition from the Arabs of it's
"Right to Exist", but I see precious little attempt by Israel
to accommodate this new reality by figuring out how to _live_
with the neighbors instead of dying: it's like they are stuck
in 1949.
Jewish history largely records oppressions and injustices
suffered and this does not pre-dispose Israel to catch a
fair wind when it blows.
Dhu
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Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
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Anonymous Wrote:
Thursday January 8, 2009. CBC radio's lead statement on World Report
QUOTE: At least three rockets exploded in northern Israel WOUNDING
SEVERAL PEOPLE.
TRUTH?
1) Within an hour of this news breaking, AlJazeera English TV (AJE)
reported two people were slightly wounded.
2) An hour after the CBC quote above, AJE reported the injuries as one
elderly woman running fell and injured her hip and an elderly man hit
by breaking glass.
3) Haaretz.com reports "two people lightly wounded and a number of
others suffering from shock"
It seems CBC jews are more interested in presenting jews as victims
than providing balanced information to Canadians.
Now if only we could overcome the Israeli occupation of our media, AJE
could be a choice for Canadians and help balance that information.
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:45:44 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Al Jazeera is biased towards Hamas and is also propaganda.
Hamas is a collection of militants.
So why are Hamas firing rockets into Israel?
What about the soppy message from Hamas?
Israel does have the right to defend itself. Nothing new there.
Antisemitism is just an excuse for ignorance.
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:45 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
Al Jazeera is not CBC, Kike.
So is every army, Kike.
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Because the UberKikes were starving Gaza? Fuck you Kikes sure don't
know your facts do you?
Antisemitism is the antithesis of ignorance.
It is heightened awareness, of the pernicious Kike menace.
Give me your address and we will visit you at the appropriate time for
an 'interview'.
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:36:25 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Al Jarzeera is focused on the Arabian view of things, schmuck.
Not so, schmuck.
That's a laugh riot. Send rockets into Israel because your own people are
starving and your leaders won't do anything
to attempt a peace accord. Nice try genius.
No it isn't. That line was given by some German leader in the 1930's.
Obvously didn't work too well did it?
Give me yours first.
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Anonymous Wrote:
Someone should do some research into what changes, and purges the CJC
head Rabbinovitch was up to during his time running the CBC.
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:47:46 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
Why go to the CBC in Toronto yourself?
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:27:12 GMT, "GaryRock" <...@ever.com
Eat pork MF
gr
<...@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:27:22 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
Eat meat on Fridays.
"GaryRock" <...@edtnps82...
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:33:50 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
How about putting you on the rack in the name of The Lord as they did in the
Middle Ages?
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 8, 5:33 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
Oh I have some inquisitions in mind for you zionist creeps, don' t you
worry.
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:58:33 -0800 (PST), Viejo Vizcacha <...@yahoo.com
I am sorry, but those from Israel are not militants, and the
Palestinians doing the fighting are not troops. Troops normally means
people in uniforms who receive a paycheck, and have a pension plan.
Militants mean people who devote themselves to a fight because they
believe the cause for which they are fighting to be a just one.
I see nothing wrong with those labels.
VV.
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 5, 4:58 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <...@yahoo.com
That's funny, I thought the Palestinians elected Hamas as their
GOVERNMENT?
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:46:55 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Technically, but Hamas has been nothing like a democratic government.
In fact Hamas has a credo to destroy Israel.
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:58:56 -0800 (PST), Viejo Vizcacha <...@yahoo.com
On Jan 5, 7:46 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
And what is the credo of Israel? Steal Palestinian's land and evict
them?
VV
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:37:14 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
"Viejo Vizcacha" <...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 5, 7:46 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
And what is the credo of Israel? Steal Palestinian's land and evict
them?
To provide a soverign nation for its citizens within the limitation of its
current borders.
The Palestinians have both Gaza and the West Bank. It's too bad that Hamas
wasn't smart and started building Gaza
into something that would be an economic and commercial centre for that part
of the Middle East. In other words, Gaza
could be a port of entry serving Jordan, Syria and Eastern Egypt, not to
mention a secondary port for Saudi Arabia, plus
Gaza could be something like Abu Dhabi with world class resorts and commerce
centres. A destination for vacations, and
for regional commerce.
Working with Israel, Gaza could be turned into something that would equate
the economic region of the UAE.
The West bank could be something too.
Too bad the supporters of Hamas continually get into this pity party of
refugees being held hostage and don't bother to
start the nation building on their own.
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:49:33 -0800 (PST), Viejo Vizcacha <...@yahoo.com
On Jan 5, 9:37 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
The Palestinians have neither gaza nor the west Bank. In Gaza Israel
has controlled the ports of entry, destroyed its airport, and even
bombed families having a picnic on a beach. In West Bank Israel
controls everything, with roadblocks at the entrance of every town and
village. The control is exercised by either the Israeli army, or by
armed settlers that bully and harass Palestinians.
VV
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:02:44 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
"Viejo Vizcacha" <...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 5, 9:37 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
The Palestinians have neither gaza nor the west Bank. In Gaza Israel
has controlled the ports of entry, destroyed its airport, and even
bombed families having a picnic on a beach. In West Bank Israel
controls everything, with roadblocks at the entrance of every town and
village. The control is exercised by either the Israeli army, or by
armed settlers that bully and harass Palestinians.
A little off the mark. Palestine (as it stands now) exists in both Gaza and
The West Bank. The Palestinian National Authority
exists in the West Bank, Hamas in Gaza. Ninety six countries recognise the
Palestinian state.
If the people who run the Palestinian government would start to be smart and
push off the militants who are firing rockets
into Israel and advocating suicide bombings, then things would be different.
They can start by filling in the smuggling tunnels, and turning over all
arms and entering into a peace accord with Israel
and be a little more considerate. To balance off, if Israel would more
accepting that would provide a means too.
If that happened then this nonsense would end soon.
Israel is not the "bad guy" in this latest battle. Hamas is and would be
much more useful to its citizens to stop the rockets
from going into Israel so that the Palestinian people can co-exist
co-operatively and peacefully with the citizens across the
border in Israel.
Forget the "End the Israeli invasion" crap.
Start the "End the nonsense and give a face slap to Hamas, now!"
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 5, 10:02 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
I believe there was a ceasefire but it didn't work. I think on Nov 6
the jews entered gaza and killed six ... and the siege was not lifted.
Remember the blackouts?
What do you suppose would happen if the Palestinians had no weapons?
If I was in Gaza now I would have a high powered rifle with telescopic
sights ... and wait for the chance to get a single shot. If many
Palestinians risked sacrificing themselves in this way, the jews would
not come back.
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:54:03 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 5, 10:02 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
I believe there was a ceasefire but it didn't work. I think on Nov 6
the jews entered gaza and killed six ... and the siege was not lifted.
Remember the blackouts?
Remeber the rockets which fired into Israel despite the blackouts?
What do you suppose would happen if the Palestinians had no weapons?
That's imaginary. The militants have weapons.
If I was in Gaza now I would have a high powered rifle with telescopic
sights ... and wait for the chance to get a single shot. If many
Palestinians risked sacrificing themselves in this way, the jews would
not come back.
If the Palestinanian militants who are firing those rockets sacrificed
themselves, the majority of Palestinanans who want
a robust and easy to live in homeland in both Gaza and the West Bank would
be most gracious.
Do us a favour when it comes to sacrificing in Gaza, go there and show us
personally how its done.
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 6, 2:54 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
You first Jewboy!
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/the-other-side/
We have the Palestinian side of the story; now let’s be fair and look
at the Israeli side:
Israel’s surgical strikes, meant only to stop terrorists
PALESTINIANS-ISRAEL/VIOLENCE
I think they got the bad guy hiding in the schools, mosques and
markets!
MIDEAST-PALESTINIAN-ISRAEL-MIDEAST-CONFLICT-GAZA
Of course the Palestinians are masters of propaganda, here they are
pretending to be dead
igdead11
igdead68
igdead76
igpalestinian20mother20and20her20two20babie
As Israel continues to act with admirable restraint the Hamas terror
rocket attacks continue
igqassam0000
igqassam00
The awesome fury of a Qassam rocket: explosive power is somewhere
between a Roman Candle and an ICBM:
igqassam1
Look at the devastation. The poor Israelis!
igqassam10
Pictures and concept from a larger photo essay here:
http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:36:20 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
<...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 6, 2:54 pm, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
You first Jewboy!
Sorry friend, I'm not Jewish, but Christian.
and why do you hate Jewish people so much? Didn't get a free bagel?
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:57:18 -0800 (PST), Viejo Vizcacha <...@yahoo.com
On Jan 6, 1:02 am, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
The state of Palestine does NOT existe. No country can recognize the
Palestinian state since it does not existe. There is Palestinian
people, and there is Palestinian land, but there is no Palestinian
state. Would you care to name 6 of the 96 countries that recognize
the Palestinian state? I would be very surprised since neither Hamas,
nor the PLO say that there is a Palestinian state. Furthermore, the
CIA in its world book does not list Palestine at all.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html
But it does list Gaza and the West Bank as territories. Furthermore,
the UN does NOT list Palestine as a member state, as can be verified
by clicking in the link below
http://www.un.org/members/list.shtml
I have already asked this of the supporters of Israel and I will
reiterate the request to you: please inform yourself and stop spewing
lies.
Thanks,
VV
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:25:13 GMT, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
"Viejo Vizcacha" <...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 6, 1:02 am, "Gerrald Arnasen" <...@langfordcomz.org
I have already asked this of the supporters of Israel and I will
reiterate the request to you: please inform yourself and stop spewing
lies.
Wellwhy don't you stop supporting Hamas, a terrorist organisation? Hamas did
a fine job of taking out its opposition
The Fatah, and hasn't exactly done much to make Gaza and the West Bank a
nice place to live.
The fact remains that the Palestinian National Authority is recognised by 96
countries, and Palestine does exist since
it issues its own passports, vehicle registrations, etc. etc.
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:57:15 -0600, Simon Puddingham <...@booger.com
What planet do you live on? A tiny piece of land blocked of by land, sea,
and air is going to build an economy? Just how do you do that? Not to
mention blocked off from capital. There's more to Israel's pursuit of Hamas
than the rockets... the idea is to cripple what little economy they have to
make sure they will never be a self-sustaining economy. Keep them weak and
easy to control, that's Israel's goal.
We have a bunch of Con parrots in Ottawa, "we call for a cease fire, but
Israel has a right to defend itself, blah, blah." In other words, let them
do what they want.
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:57 am, Simon Puddingham <...@booger.com
The corruption of Ottawa politicians by the powerful jews.
On the right of Palestinian people to self determination, the Harper
government ABSTAINED. Seems self-determination is not a Canadian value
or .....
The UN General Assembly Resolution on 20 November 2008, included these
lines.
1. Reaffirms the right of the Palestinian people to self-
determination, including the right to their independent State of
Palestine;
2. Urges all States and the specialized agencies and organizations of
the United Nations system to continue to support and assist the
Palestinian people in the early realization of their right to self-
determination.
Vote on Self-Determination of Palestinian People.
... and the vote went as follows:-
The draft resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-
determination (document A/63/429) was adopted by a recorded vote of
173 in favour to 5 against, with 7 abstentions, as follows:
In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua
and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas,
Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin,
Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei
Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde,
Central African Republic, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo,
Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic,
Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica,
Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia,
Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana,
Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti,
Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland,
Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan,
Lao People's Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia,
Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malawi,
Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico,
Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia,
Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway,
Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Philippines,
Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova,
Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and
the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi
Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia,
Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan,
Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand,
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad
and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine,
United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania,
Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Against: Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of),
Palau, United States.
Abstain: Australia, Cameroon, CANADA, Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, Vanuatu.
Absent: Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea,
Kiribati, Peru, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Seychelles
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:57 am, Simon Puddingham <...@booger.com
The corruption of Ottawa politicians by the powerful jews.
On the right of Palestinian people to self determination, the Harper
government ABSTAINED. Seems self-determination is not a Canadian value
or .....
The UN General Assembly Resolution on 20 November 2008, included these
lines.
1. Reaffirms the right of the Palestinian people to self-
determination, including the right to their independent State of
Palestine;
2. Urges all States and the specialized agencies and organizations of
the United Nations system to continue to support and assist the
Palestinian people in the early realization of their right to self-
determination.
... and the vote went as follows:-
In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua
and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas,
Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin,
Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei
Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde,
Central African Republic, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo,
Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic,
Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica,
Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia,
Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana,
Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti,
Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland,
Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan,
Lao People's Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia,
Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malawi,
Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico,
Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia,
Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway,
Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Philippines,
Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova,
Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and
the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi
Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia,
Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan,
Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand,
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad
and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine,
United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania,
Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Against: Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of),
Palau, United States.
Abstain: Australia, Cameroon, Canada, Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, Vanuatu.
Absent: Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea,
Kiribati, Peru, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Seychelles
Sssssh! Jewsmedia, don't let too many Canadians know how Harper's
administration is voting. They might not like it.
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