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Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein And Al-Qa'ida

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:26:00 -0800 (PST), "leo...@gmail.com" <...@gmail.com> wrote:

Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Thursday, February 28, 2008

In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
Barack Obama shows the difference between being glib
and being articulate and just why John McCain should be
president of the United States.

It was as if Neville Chamberlain was blaming World War
II on Winston Churchill, or if someone had claimed Hitler
wouldn't have invaded France if the British hadn't put
their expeditionary force there first.

In an incredible long-distance exchange with McCain, the
presumptive GOP nominee for president, Sen. Obama
first states that he would send soldiers back to Iraq "if
al-Qa'ida is forming a base in Iraq."

When McCain responded that "al-Qa'ida in Iraq" has that
name because it is already there, Obama replied that
there was "no such thing as al-Qa'ida in Iraq until George
Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

Slick Willie, meet slicker Barack, who is blissfully
unaware that terrorists hate us for what we are, not what
we do.

There are many reasons why we liberated Iraq, and John
McCain whispering in George Bush's ear was not one of
them. We did not "invade" Iraq. We went in under
authority of U.N. Resolution 1441, which gave Saddam
Hussein a "final opportunity" to give a full accounting of
what happened to the WMD that the mass murderer used
against his neighbors and own people, or there would be
"serious consequences." Saddam didn't, and there were.

We're sure Obama would rather have used some
"aggressive personal diplomacy," as he so glibly puts it,
on Saddam. His policy would be to bomb an ally such as
Pakistan while talking to a soon-to-be nuclear adversary
such as Iran.

And as long as Obama's borrowing phraseology from
other politicians, we're surprised he hasn't paraphrased
the words of the late William Borah, whom he rivals in
naivete.

On hearing of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, the
Idaho senator lamented: "Lord, if only I could have
talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

Ah, if only Barack had been able to talk with Saddam . . .

Whether we're talking about Saddam's Iraq, al-Qa'ida, or
other states and terrorist groups, the fact is that they
were and are linked by a common enemy and goal --
they want the U.S. destroyed. They are allies as much as
Germany, Japan and Italy were allies in World War II.
They may not coordinate every jot and tittle of their
efforts, but the enemy of their enemy is their friend.

That there were links was confirmed by Lee Hamilton,
vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission, who said that the
commission did not disagree with the administration's
assertion that there were connections between al-Qa'ida
and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Added Thomas Kean, commission chairman: "There
were contacts between Iraq and al-Qa'ida, a number of
them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely
there."

Indeed there were. For example, Abdul Rahman Yasin,
a member of the al-Qa'ida cell that detonated the 1993
World Trade Center bomb, found safe haven in Iraq,
and documents recently found in Tikrit indicate that
Saddam provided Yasin with both a home and a salary.
Why?

Back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had
offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship"
and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between
Osama and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi. And so
on, and so on.

In 1998, the Clinton Justice Department alleged in an
indictment against bin Laden that "al-Qa'ida reached an understanding
with the government of Iraq that al-Qa'ida
would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons
development, al-Qa'ida would work cooperatively with
the government of Iraq."

As the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes has reported,
reams of captured documents show that elite Iraqi
military units trained some 8,000 al-Qaida terrorists. They
belonged to groups such as Algeria's GSPC, Palestinian
Islamic Jihad, Ansar al Islam and the Sudanese
Liberation Army, at camps in Samarra, in Ramadi and at
Salman Pak, where a Boeing 707 fuselage was used for
terrorist training.

Perhaps Obama has an explanation for Iraqi intelligence
operative Ahmed Hikmat Shaker helping one of the 9/11
hijackers get to Malaysia and attending the Kuala Lumpur
meeting in January 2000 with two of the hijackers, a
meeting roundly acknowledged to be the initial 9/11
planning session.

The charge that our liberation of Iraq has caused
terrorists to flock to Iraq disproves Obama's own
argument that Iraq is not central to the war on terror.
Better they flock to Iraq to be killed by American and Iraqi
troops than flock to a Pittsburgh or Detroit to execute
plans to kill Americans here.

A President McCain will understand that.



On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:35:18 -0800 (PST), "leo...@gmail.com" <...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 1, 12:33 pm, boo radley <...@newsguy.com> wrote:
More of the same horse shit from the same assholes:

** Poor BooBoo, the idiot topposter gets "More of the
same horse shit from the same assholes", but
unfortunately for him they are not on usenet.

>Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

>By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
>Thursday, February 28, 2008

>In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
>Barack Obama shows the difference between being glib
>and being articulate and just why John McCain should be
>president of the United States.

>It was as if Neville Chamberlain was blaming World War
>II on Winston Churchill, or if someone had claimed Hitler
>wouldn't have invaded France if the British hadn't put
>their expeditionary force there first.

>In an incredible long-distance exchange with McCain, the
>presumptive GOP nominee for president, Sen. Obama
>first states that he would send soldiers back to Iraq "if
>al-Qa'ida is forming a base in Iraq."

>When McCain responded that "al-Qa'ida in Iraq" has that
>name because it is already there, Obama replied that
>there was "no such thing as al-Qa'ida in Iraq until George
>Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

>Slick Willie, meet slicker Barack, who is blissfully
>unaware that terrorists hate us for what we are, not what
>we do.

>There are many reasons why we liberated Iraq, and John
>McCain whispering in George Bush's ear was not one of
>them. We did not "invade" Iraq. We went in under
>authority of U.N. Resolution 1441, which gave Saddam
>Hussein a "final opportunity" to give a full accounting of
>what happened to the WMD that the mass murderer used
>against his neighbors and own people, or there would be
>"serious consequences." Saddam didn't, and there were.

>We're sure Obama would rather have used some
>"aggressive personal diplomacy," as he so glibly puts it,
>on Saddam. His policy would be to bomb an ally such as
>Pakistan while talking to a soon-to-be nuclear adversary
>such as Iran.

>And as long as Obama's borrowing phraseology from
>other politicians, we're surprised he hasn't paraphrased
>the words of the late William Borah, whom he rivals in
>naivete.

>On hearing of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, the
>Idaho senator lamented: "Lord, if only I could have
>talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

>Ah, if only Barack had been able to talk with Saddam . . .

>Whether we're talking about Saddam's Iraq, al-Qa'ida, or
>other states and terrorist groups, the fact is that they
>were and are linked by a common enemy and goal --
>they want the U.S. destroyed. They are allies as much as
>Germany, Japan and Italy were allies in World War II.
>They may not coordinate every jot and tittle of their
>efforts, but the enemy of their enemy is their friend.

>That there were links was confirmed by Lee Hamilton,
>vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission, who said that the
>commission did not disagree with the administration's
>assertion that there were connections between al-Qa'ida
>and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

>Added Thomas Kean, commission chairman: "There
>were contacts between Iraq and al-Qa'ida, a number of
>them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely
>there."

>Indeed there were. For example, Abdul Rahman Yasin,
>a member of the al-Qa'ida cell that detonated the 1993
>World Trade Center bomb, found safe haven in Iraq,
>and documents recently found in Tikrit indicate that
>Saddam provided Yasin with both a home and a salary.
>Why?

>Back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had
>offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship"
>and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between
>Osama and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi. And so
>on, and so on.

>In 1998, the Clinton Justice Department alleged in an
>indictment against bin Laden that "al-Qa'ida reached
>an understanding with the government of Iraq that
>al-Qa'ida would not work against that government
>and that on particular projects, specifically including
>weapons development, al-Qa'ida would work
>cooperatively with the government of Iraq."

>As the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes has reported,
>reams of captured documents show that elite Iraqi
>military units trained some 8,000 al-Qaida terrorists. They
>belonged to groups such as Algeria's GSPC, Palestinian
>Islamic Jihad, Ansar al Islam and the Sudanese
>Liberation Army, at camps in Samarra, in Ramadi and at
>Salman Pak, where a Boeing 707 fuselage was used for
>terrorist training.

>Perhaps Obama has an explanation for Iraqi intelligence
>operative Ahmed Hikmat Shaker helping one of the 9/11
>hijackers get to Malaysia and attending the Kuala Lumpur
>meeting in January 2000 with two of the hijackers, a
>meeting roundly acknowledged to be the initial 9/11
>planning session.

>The charge that our liberation of Iraq has caused
>terrorists to flock to Iraq disproves Obama's own
>argument that Iraq is not central to the war on terror.
>Better they flock to Iraq to be killed by American and Iraqi
>troops than flock to a Pittsburgh or Detroit to execute
>plans to kill Americans here.

>A President McCain will understand that.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:22:16 GMT, Jimpansee <...@netherworld.org> wrote:

leon...@gmail.com wrote:
Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Thursday, February 28, 2008

In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
Barack Obama shows the difference between being glib
and being articulate and just why John McCain should be
president of the United States.

It was as if Neville Chamberlain was blaming World War
II on Winston Churchill, or if someone had claimed Hitler
wouldn't have invaded France if the British hadn't put
their expeditionary force there first.

In an incredible long-distance exchange with McCain, the
presumptive GOP nominee for president, Sen. Obama
first states that he would send soldiers back to Iraq "if
al-Qa'ida is forming a base in Iraq."

When McCain responded that "al-Qa'ida in Iraq" has that
name because it is already there, Obama replied that
there was "no such thing as al-Qa'ida in Iraq until George
Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

Slick Willie, meet slicker Barack, who is blissfully
unaware that terrorists hate us for what we are, not what
we do.

There are many reasons why we liberated Iraq, and John
McCain whispering in George Bush's ear was not one of
them. We did not "invade" Iraq. We went in under
authority of U.N. Resolution 1441, which gave Saddam
Hussein a "final opportunity" to give a full accounting of
what happened to the WMD that the mass murderer used
against his neighbors and own people, or there would be
"serious consequences." Saddam didn't, and there were.

We're sure Obama would rather have used some
"aggressive personal diplomacy," as he so glibly puts it,
on Saddam. His policy would be to bomb an ally such as
Pakistan while talking to a soon-to-be nuclear adversary
such as Iran.

And as long as Obama's borrowing phraseology from
other politicians, we're surprised he hasn't paraphrased
the words of the late William Borah, whom he rivals in
naivete.

On hearing of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, the
Idaho senator lamented: "Lord, if only I could have
talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

Ah, if only Barack had been able to talk with Saddam . . .

Whether we're talking about Saddam's Iraq, al-Qa'ida, or
other states and terrorist groups, the fact is that they
were and are linked by a common enemy and goal --
they want the U.S. destroyed. They are allies as much as
Germany, Japan and Italy were allies in World War II.
They may not coordinate every jot and tittle of their
efforts, but the enemy of their enemy is their friend.

That there were links was confirmed by Lee Hamilton,
vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission, who said that the
commission did not disagree with the administration's
assertion that there were connections between al-Qa'ida
and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Added Thomas Kean, commission chairman: "There
were contacts between Iraq and al-Qa'ida, a number of
them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely
there."

Indeed there were. For example, Abdul Rahman Yasin,
a member of the al-Qa'ida cell that detonated the 1993
World Trade Center bomb, found safe haven in Iraq,
and documents recently found in Tikrit indicate that
Saddam provided Yasin with both a home and a salary.
Why?

Back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had
offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship"
and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between
Osama and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi. And so
on, and so on.

In 1998, the Clinton Justice Department alleged in an
indictment against bin Laden that "al-Qa'ida reached an understanding
with the government of Iraq that al-Qa'ida
would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons
development, al-Qa'ida would work cooperatively with
the government of Iraq."

As the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes has reported,
reams of captured documents show that elite Iraqi
military units trained some 8,000 al-Qaida terrorists. They
belonged to groups such as Algeria's GSPC, Palestinian
Islamic Jihad, Ansar al Islam and the Sudanese
Liberation Army, at camps in Samarra, in Ramadi and at
Salman Pak, where a Boeing 707 fuselage was used for
terrorist training.

Perhaps Obama has an explanation for Iraqi intelligence
operative Ahmed Hikmat Shaker helping one of the 9/11
hijackers get to Malaysia and attending the Kuala Lumpur
meeting in January 2000 with two of the hijackers, a
meeting roundly acknowledged to be the initial 9/11
planning session.

The charge that our liberation of Iraq has caused
terrorists to flock to Iraq disproves Obama's own
argument that Iraq is not central to the war on terror.
Better they flock to Iraq to be killed by American and Iraqi
troops than flock to a Pittsburgh or Detroit to execute
plans to kill Americans here.

A President McCain will understand that.

So we liberated Iraq with the blessings of the UN? H mm. Some wise
person once said. "The most dangerous people on earth are those who are
blissfully ignorant and conscientiously stupid".

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:46:24 -0800 (PST), last...@rogers.com wrote:

On Mar 1, 11:22 pm, Jimpansee <...@netherworld.org> wrote:
leon...@gmail.com wrote:
> Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

> By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
> Thursday, February 28, 2008

> In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
> Barack Obama shows the difference between being glib
> and being articulate and just why John McCain should be
> president of the United States.

> It was as if Neville Chamberlain was blaming World War
> II on Winston Churchill, or if someone had claimed Hitler
> wouldn't have invaded France if the British hadn't put
> their expeditionary force there first.

> In an incredible long-distance exchange with McCain, the
> presumptive GOP nominee for president, Sen. Obama
> first states that he would send soldiers back to Iraq "if
> al-Qa'ida is forming a base in Iraq."

> When McCain responded that "al-Qa'ida in Iraq" has that
> name because it is already there, Obama replied that
> there was "no such thing as al-Qa'ida in Iraq until George
> Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

> Slick Willie, meet slicker Barack, who is blissfully
> unaware that terrorists hate us for what we are, not what
> we do.

> There are many reasons why we liberated Iraq, and John
> McCain whispering in George Bush's ear was not one of
> them. We did not "invade" Iraq. We went in under
> authority of U.N. Resolution 1441, which gave Saddam
> Hussein a "final opportunity" to give a full accounting of
> what happened to the WMD that the mass murderer used
> against his neighbors and own people, or there would be
> "serious consequences." Saddam didn't, and there were.

> We're sure Obama would rather have used some
> "aggressive personal diplomacy," as he so glibly puts it,
> on Saddam. His policy would be to bomb an ally such as
> Pakistan while talking to a soon-to-be nuclear adversary
> such as Iran.

> And as long as Obama's borrowing phraseology from
> other politicians, we're surprised he hasn't paraphrased
> the words of the late William Borah, whom he rivals in
> naivete.

> On hearing of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, the
> Idaho senator lamented: "Lord, if only I could have
> talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided."

> Ah, if only Barack had been able to talk with Saddam . . .

> Whether we're talking about Saddam's Iraq, al-Qa'ida, or
> other states and terrorist groups, the fact is that they
> were and are linked by a common enemy and goal --
> they want the U.S. destroyed. They are allies as much as
> Germany, Japan and Italy were allies in World War II.
> They may not coordinate every jot and tittle of their
> efforts, but the enemy of their enemy is their friend.

> That there were links was confirmed by Lee Hamilton,
> vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission, who said that the
> commission did not disagree with the administration's
> assertion that there were connections between al-Qa'ida
> and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

> Added Thomas Kean, commission chairman: "There
> were contacts between Iraq and al-Qa'ida, a number of
> them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely
> there."

> Indeed there were. For example, Abdul Rahman Yasin,
> a member of the al-Qa'ida cell that detonated the 1993
> World Trade Center bomb, found safe haven in Iraq,
> and documents recently found in Tikrit indicate that
> Saddam provided Yasin with both a home and a salary.
> Why?

> Back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had
> offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship"
> and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between
> Osama and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi. And so
> on, and so on.

> In 1998, the Clinton Justice Department alleged in an
> indictment against bin Laden that "al-Qa'ida reached an understanding
> with the government of Iraq that al-Qa'ida
> would not work against that government and that on
> particular projects, specifically including weapons
> development, al-Qa'ida would work cooperatively with
> the government of Iraq."

> As the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes has reported,
> reams of captured documents show that elite Iraqi
> military units trained some 8,000 al-Qaida terrorists. They
> belonged to groups such as Algeria's GSPC, Palestinian
> Islamic Jihad, Ansar al Islam and the Sudanese
> Liberation Army, at camps in Samarra, in Ramadi and at
> Salman Pak, where a Boeing 707 fuselage was used for
> terrorist training.

> Perhaps Obama has an explanation for Iraqi intelligence
> operative Ahmed Hikmat Shaker helping one of the 9/11
> hijackers get to Malaysia and attending the Kuala Lumpur
> meeting in January 2000 with two of the hijackers, a
> meeting roundly acknowledged to be the initial 9/11
> planning session.

> The charge that our liberation of Iraq has caused
> terrorists to flock to Iraq disproves Obama's own
> argument that Iraq is not central to the war on terror.
> Better they flock to Iraq to be killed by American and Iraqi
> troops than flock to a Pittsburgh or Detroit to execute
> plans to kill Americans here.

> A President McCain will understand that.

So we liberated Iraq with the blessings of the UN? H mm. Some wise
person once said. "The most dangerous people on earth are those who are
blissfully ignorant and conscientiously stupid".

°° So that's your problem?
It's interesting that you admit to it.

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:38:36 -0700, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <...@jonez.net> wrote:

<...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Thursday, February 28, 2008

In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
Barack Obama shows the difference between

reality and the Criminal Bu$h Mob's delusions ...


On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:33:58 -0800 (PST), "leo...@gmail.com" <...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 2, 1:38 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <...@jonez.net> wrote:
<...@gmail.com> wrote in news...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

> By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
> Thursday, February 28, 2008

> In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
> Barack Obama shows the difference between

reality and the Criminal Bu$h Mob's delusions ...

** ROFLMAO
You are the deluded one.
Gst a brain, Get a life!!!

--- ---
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk into behaving well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.

1-The stupid aren't smart enough to
follow the logic of what you say. You
have to tell them what is right in very
simple terms. If they don't agree, then
you'll never be able to change their mind.

2- the religious fanatic

If what you say goes against their
religious belief, they will cling to that
religious belief even if it means their
death."

3- There is no way to reform evil-
Not in a million years

There is no way to convince the terrorists,
serial killers, paedophiles, and predators
to change their evil ways. They knew what
they were doing was wrong, but that
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
them more careful in how they went about
performing their evil acts.

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:22:56 -0800 (PST), europeanvic <...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 2, 7:33 pm, "leo...@gmail.com" <...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:38 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <...@jonez.net> wrote:

> <...@gmail.com> wrote inne...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> > Barack Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein, And Al-Qa'ida

> > By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
> > Thursday, February 28, 2008

> > In blaming America first for al-Qa'ida in Iraq's presence,
> > Barack Obama shows the difference between

> reality and the Criminal Bu$h Mob's delusions ...

** ROFLMAO
You are the deluded one.
Gst a brain, Get a life!!!

--- ---
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk into behaving well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.

1-The stupid aren't smart enough to
follow the logic of what you say. You
have to tell them what is right in very
simple terms. If they don't agree, then
you'll never be able to change their mind.

2- the religious fanatic

If what you say goes against their
religious belief, they will cling to that
religious belief even if it means their
death."

3- There is no way to reform evil-
Not in a million years

There is no way to convince the terrorists,
serial killers, paedophiles, and predators
to change their evil ways. They knew what
they were doing was wrong, but that
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
them more careful in how they went about
performing their evil acts.

Have you ever seen a real communist? If you haven't, just watch Barack
Hussein, he is more real communist than Putin. If you want US covert
in Soviets vote for this cheater.

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