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Re: So, Zapanaz, how's Ubuntu treating you?
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:36:23 -0700, Zapanaz <
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:46:57 -0700, Zapanaz
<
Well so far:
- The display is not lined up in the monitor correctly. Part of the
Ubuntu screen is off to the left of the actual display. I think it
may be far enough off that I am missing an icon or two.
- I tried the Ubuntu help icon to try to figure out how to fix this.
I search and it pulls up a list of what look like links. When I click
on one, nothing happens. If I click on it a second time, the program
exits.
- Is there a "show desktop" icon? Searching Google, it appears there
is, but I can't find it. I don't know whether it might be offscreen
from the above or what. Tried the help system again, crashed again.
(I did find the keyboard shortcut, but I would rather have an icon, if
there is one, I'm just used to that).
- The default terminal/shell apparently has a broken "echo" command,
which broke me trying to install Apache. Searching around this is
apparently a common problem. bin/sh is a symlink to something, the
advice on how to fix the problem was to delete this and create a new
symlink to something else. But when I try I can't, because I'm not
root.
Of course this happens in any Unix environment and in Windows (in
Vista especially, more than in previous Windowses). The way it's
handled is kind of dumb though. Really, the user should at least have
the option to actually CREATE an administrator or root account which
they can then log into if they need to. Hopefully anybody who would
do that would be savvy enough to understand that they normally want to
stay in the user account. As it is though, because I never created a
root account, I don't know how I am supposed to log into it.
- I tried The Gimp, just for the heck of it. I've heard about it so
I wanted to try it. Somewhere while I was working, the main menu bar
shifted over to the left. The File and Edit menues disappeared off
into limbo as a result.
- While I was searching Google in Firefox for answers to the problems
that the broken help system couldn't help me with, I right-clicked on
a link. I -thought- I chose "open in new tab", but a new window
opened. I assumed at first I must have accidentally hit "open in new
window", which is right below "new tab". Now that I think about it
though, although it did open a new window, there was nothing in that
window, the page the link was pointing to wasn't loaded, so that
doesn't fit either.
Anyway so I closed this new Firefox window and went back to the
original one.
Some strange new symbol had appeared to the right of the link, sort of
a reddish-orange diamond shape. If I move the mouse pointer over it,
the mouse pointer changes to a "resize" mouse pointer style, so that
is no help. I don't think I try left-clicking on it because it's a
resize pointer. I try right-clicking over it, and it gives me a bunch
of weird options which don't make sense to me. "Make this a permanent
location" or something was one of them. I have no idea what that
means but I don't want to do "permanent" anything.
But once this new symbol has appeared, all the rest of the Firefox
interface becomes inactive. Clicking tabs, menus, the close icon,
they all do nothing. Finally I have to kill the process from the
Ubuntu-style task manager.
OK other than that though.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"The ministry of communication is duty-bound to make the use of the
Internet impossible."
:: Currently listening to Carol of the Bells, 2002, by Tomandandy, from "The Rules of Attraction"
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:09:10 -0400, "iDRMRSR" <...@sssssubgenius.com
Ubuntu screen is off to the left of the actual display. I think it
may be far enough off that I am missing an icon or two.
Did you try your monitor adjust buttans? If the monitor was made this
century, there might be one someplace. Linux fuxors your monitor settings
when changing ovar from Windoze (or vice versa, I don't want to seem like I
favor one OS ovar the othar).
the option to actually CREATE an administrator or root account which
they can then log into if they need to.
Use the SU command. Like SU RM -R and it will ask you for a password and
then delete evarything on the hard drive. The SU thing is how you become
mastar. Don't need (and prolly can't) set up an adminstrator account. Or
maybe it's SUDO, I forget. Hey this is as close to an answar as you are
going to get on a foram.
Ubuntu-style task manager.
This is a GOOD SKILL to learn with Linux! Anothar one is how to kill the X
servar and then bring back the Gnome desktop cuz evarything is, as the
Germans say, Upgehingt.
So now you can see for yourself how THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!
It's so easy to use...AND FREE!
[*]
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PS the HELP files are a joke. But...!!!...they are availabal in 230
diffarant languages!
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:48:50 -0700, Zapanaz <
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:09:10 -0400, "iDRMRSR"
<...@sssssubgenius.com
That's a good idea, but it won't let me su to root, in the bash (or
whatever) shell. I tried logging in with my account's password, and
got "authentication failure". I'm not sure if that means the password
is wrong or what.
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Question : Rev, Bob's image appeared on some bean silos nearby.
Should I be alarmed or is Bob
Question : spreading his word in odd ways?
SubGStang1 : BEAN SILOS?? Man, those aren't BEAN SILOS! Those are
TOXIC NERVE GAS MISSILE LAUNCHERS disguised
SubGStang1 : as bean silos. The Dobbsheads were probably put there
by the military to ward off evil spirits.
:: Currently listening to Part 2: Resolution, 1964, by John Coltrane, from "A Love Supreme"
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:20:06 -0700, Zapanaz <
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:48:50 -0700, Zapanaz
<
sudo worked, I can change the password on the root account with that
for the future.
Thanks, Mistar Sistar, you Linux God!
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"The revolution will not be televised"
- Gil Scott Heron
:: Currently listening to Functional, 1957, by Thelonious Monk, from "Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane"
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:38:57 -0700, Zapanaz <
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:36:23 -0700, Zapanaz
<
I tried to change the screen saver. While I was trying to preview
them, the screen started garbaging up, then finally the whole computer
started going nuts, beeping wildly, and I had to hardware-kill the
power. (Is there an equivalent to ctrl+alt+del for Ubuntu, for
emergency reboots?)
I haven't seen a computer crash that hard since Windows 3.1
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
The change of color is likely and a difference a very little difference is prepared. Sugar is not a vegetable.
- Gertrude Stein
:: Currently listening to No. 8 in F sharp Minor, 1951, by Shostakovich, from "24 Preludes and Fugues"
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:57:56 -0700 (PDT), Ankara <...@gmail.com
On Jun 21, 8:38 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl?
f.....@mindspring.com
It sounds to me like you dont have the correct graphics driver. This
is one of the stupid things that Stallman did to free software. Ok
wait I wont go off , you just need the help...ANYHOO since most
graphics drivers are proprietary (depending on who built your graphics
card- or motherboard graphics chip) ubuntu does NOT ship with them.
There is an included utility that can install them for you, under:
system
The full howto is here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
In Linux things are a bit different, mostly you will need to restart X
if things go wrong. (long story short: X is your graphical desktop
enviroment) However as of the latest release this feature is disabled
so that newbies wont be taking down X by mistake etc. I think THAT'S a
mistake, but whatever it's easy enough to fix. Type these two commands
into your terminal window ( applications
sudo apt-get install dontzap
This will install a small package that will re-enable the command.
once that finishes type:
sudo dontzap --disable
from now on ctrl-alt-backspace will restart your X session .
If you find later that you dont like having this command enabled (I
have NO EARTHLY IDEA WHY ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT) but you can easily
disable it by typing:
sudo dontzap --enable
HTH
--
Ankara
http://taphouse.org/
There is no Cabal.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:16:57 -0400, "iDRMRSR" <...@sssssubgenius.com
The fuck it will, has been my experiance. Oh, the key sequance DOES take
down X but it drops you to a terminal. Then you have no way to Googal to
find the command to RESTART X (and it's not STARTX!). If you do out of
frustratian type STARTX it tells you something about how the X servar is
still running and to go and remove some semaphore file, blah blah, blah.
Inducing a quick rush to hit the powar buttan.
I think Windoze 3.1 used to drop you to a DOS prompt when Windoze crashed,
too. Oh golly, if they could make this easiar, that would be SO NICE.
I also undarstand there is some mnemonic involving elephants or something,
which is the propar way to safely shut down a non-responsive Linux box.
Oanly, I could nevar remembar it.
It involves hitting the SYS REQ key and then typing in a particular sequance
of lettars to ensure all the disk buffars get writtan and flushed and all
that.
Basically, by the time I started to considar memorizing that command, I said
WHY THE FUCK AM I SUBJECTING MYSELF TO THIS BULLSHIT when I already have a
working copy of XP around? This is not a value judgmant, though, just a
statemant of pure practicality.
Sometimes Linux is like fixing something that works.
Oh dear that sounds far moar critical than I mean to be, but I guess I still
have some bile to vent ovar getting the desktop back once the thing gets
hung.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT), Ankara <...@gmail.com
On Jun 22, 1:16 pm, "iDRMRSR" <...@sssssubgenius.com
heh. I dont know why you wouldn't see a login window immediately that
is how it is set up to run out of the box, I wonder if you somehow
disabled yours. generally ctrl+alt+backspace is a RESTART command for
X all on it's own, are you sure you werent using ctrl+alt+del perhaps
and killing it entirely?
"Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring",
But I like this one better:
"Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken
it is useful to know about the *magic*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
--
Ankara
http://taphouse.org/
There is no Cabal
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:32:16 -0700, Zapanaz <
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT), Ankara
<...@gmail.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#.22Raising_Elephants.22_mnemonic_d evice
This would be more useful ... after the crash when trying to change
screen savers, it would crash catastrophically every time the screen
saver turned on. I found alt+SysRq+b which is a little nicer than a
hard power-off, but this looks a little less violent.
But I don't get it, if the system is utterly crashed, where do you
enter these commands? I can't open a terminal. It does respond to
the Magic key so it's alive in there somewhere.
Do you just type in the REISUB commands from the keyboard and just
assume that they will get heard?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
The change of color is likely and a difference a very little difference is prepared. Sugar is not a vegetable.
- Gertrude Stein
:: Currently listening to Guillaume Tell, 1829, by Rossini, from "Rossini Overtures"
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:48:00 -0400, "iDRMRSR" <...@sssssubgenius.com
is how it is set up to run out of the box, I wonder if you somehow
disabled yours. generally ctrl+alt+backspace is a RESTART command for
X all on it's own, are you sure you werent using ctrl+alt+del perhaps
and killing it entirely?
Could be a drivar thing or whatevar where it would actually restart but fail
so fast I nevar saw it. The good news is with Jaunty here, yes, it seems to
actually restart.
I'd play with it moar because I like the dreamy look of KDE 4, but I can't
seem to get the right screen resolutian/font combinatian to fit my
particular monitor. I can't run the thing in 1920x1200 native, text too
small. I can't seem to coax it into 1280x768, which I prefer.
I can change the fonts on the desktop to make them big, but can't do the
corresponding thing in FF so they are large enuff when I'm out on the web.
So once again, my verdict is XP still works, so who needs it, evan if the
dreamy transparant desktop shit is da bomb.
Windoze 7 will be out soon, and it'll have all that shit. Might evan run on
some of the hardware I have here.
I did find this link to some Windoze program which you run and it genarated
an Xorg.conf file with all the monitor timings and crap you needed to get
the right rez in X. But I lost the thing.
I went searching for it again but if you googal monitor resolution undar
Ubuntu, you get a millian hits, and can nevar find the ones that are
relevant.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT), Ankara <...@gmail.com
On Jun 22, 1:48 pm, "iDRMRSR" <...@sssssubgenius.com
Ok when you say you cant run it in native do you mean it will not run
in native or you dont like it because of text size. I am going to
suggest that you ALWAYS run your monitor in native resolution and just
increase the text size of the desktop accordingly. it should change
the text size in every application except firefox which is controlled
separately.
Yes firefox's font size is controlled in a separate place from the
rest of the desktops, you need to go into firefoxes preferences and
click the 'content' tab and you can see the fonts and colors part and
an 'advance' button click that and you can have it override the
webpages and display things to your liking there is a box that says
something like 'allow webpages to choose their own fonts instead of
mine' or something like that, you can experiment on how you like that
setting to be.
Also I happen to like a windows font called palatino linotype (I have
no idea if that spelling is even CLOSE) but when I saw the open source
fonts I just stole the one from the windows side and put it in the
linux font folder (true type fonts are universal and any computer can
understand what to do with them. I am going to suggest that you might
like that solution as well.
I have skipped windows until 7 as well....but as far as it rocking
like a KDE compiz setup
you can forget it, I played with the beta...its nice but it isnt gonna
win any aesthetic awards.
xorg has changed so much that I bet that setup program is no longer
relevent.
--
Ankara
http://taphouse.org/
There is no Cabal.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:05:48 -0400, Rev Egg Plant <...@rrclark.net
My personal recommendation:
sudo su - (to get to root access)
cd /etc/X11
mv xorg.conf ~ (move the xorg configuration file to /root)
Reboot and bask in the glory of a working X window system.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:51:19 -0700, Zapanaz <
Despite all that, I've worked for years in Unix machines, and it's
kind of cool using one with a GUI. It's vaguely like seeing your
parents naked.
It's definitely nice having a graphic explorer instead of having to cd
and ls everywhere.
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
You can train a rat. Yes, if you work for hours and days and months and years, you -can- train a rat. But when you're done, all you'll have is a -trained rat-!
- Brother Theodore
:: Currently listening to The Snakepit, 1987, by The Cure, from "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me"
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