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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:04:19 -0700, The Pretzel <...@gmail.com
pink_panty_hooker wrote: Nothing at all.
“Even as we face the most serious economic crisis of our time, even as
you are worried about keeping your jobs or paying your bills or staying
in your homes, my opponent’s campaign announced last week that they plan
to ‘turn the page’ on the discussion about our economy so they can spend
the final weeks of this election attacking me instead.
So in the last couple of days, we’ve seen a barrage of nasty
insinuations and attacks, and I’m sure we’ll see much more over the next
25 days. We know what’s coming. We know what they’re going to do. I
think that folks are looking for something different. It’s easy to rile
up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that’s not what we need
right now in the United States.
The times are too serious. The challenges are too great. The American
people aren’t looking for someone who can divide this country — they’re
looking for someone who will lead it. We’re in a serious crisis — now,
more than ever, it is time to put country ahead of politics."
-Barack Obama
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:12:58 -0600, "Obama-Biden in 08" <...@NoSpam.com
Nor is it likely to. The mainstream media rarely passes on fairy tales, so
this one will likely be relegated to the dust bin, along with the story of
George W. Bush's heroic military service during the Vietnam war, and the one
about the "grays" (space aliens) endorsing John McInsane.
--
Current Projected Electoral Vote Count:
Obama/Biden 353
McInsane/Failin' 185
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:51:51 -0700 (PDT), Arbusto Harken <...@usa.com
On Oct 10, 1:45 pm, "blue_collar_worker" <...@hotmail.com
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:44:27 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <...@gmail.com
Responding to the Subject line:
So it looks like more than just women are fantasizing about the O bro!
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:29:46 -0700, "Lamont Cranston" <...@MeAndMy.com
On Oct 10, 1:45 pm, "blue_collar_worker"
<...@hotmail.com
Is this the same Larry Sinclair who has been unable to pass
a lie detector test when telling this story? You can't
really believe him, can you, KKKwifi?
KKKwifi, do you still live at 2815 Beulah Court?
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:45:42 -0700, "End.of.an.Error.012009" <...@no.spam.nowhere.com
With the mainstream media swooning over Barry Soetoro...why are you
surprised?!
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Obama '08. History in the making!
http://www.cafepress.com/saproducts/6033655
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:44:14 -0400, "527_sarah_palin's_bridge_to_Perkff" <...@gmail.com
"527_bloe_job_gay" <...@giganews.com...
'nuff said.
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT), Spartakus <...@my-deja.com
Read this excerpt from a letter to the editor from the prosecuting
attorney who tried to get convictions on members of the Weather
Underground, including Bill Ayers:
"As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen
in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division
in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the
Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and
outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked
to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago
when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
"Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against
all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very
pleased to learn that he has become a responsible
citizen.
"Because Senator Obama recently served on a board
of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot
possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr.
Ayers so many years ago.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/opinion/l10ayers.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=s login
Game, set and match, at least for sane people.
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <...@gmail.com
Maybe this prosecutor should look into the links to the Alaskan
Independent Party, and their penchant for explosives and anti-
Americanism...
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:56:10 -0700, "Whoopie Cusion McCain" <...@wh.net
"Phlip" <...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Maybe this prosecutor should look into the links to the Alaskan
Independent Party, and their penchant for explosives and anti-
Americanism...
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William Ayers - was a Board member of Annenberg Chicago Challenge
Annenberg Chicago Challenge (funded and run by) - Walter and Leonore
Annenberg
Walter and Leonore Annenberg (were good friends with) -Ronald and Nancy
Reagan
Ronald and Nancy Reagan ( were good friends of McCain until he dumped his
first wife after her terrible car accident) - wow that is only four degrees
to John McCain or three if you count Annenberg donations to John McCain.
Will Sarah Palin denounce Ronny and Nancy for their terror connections.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Annenbergs_with_Ronald_Reaga n_1981_cropped.jpg
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Anonymous Wrote:
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
In
<...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Phlip said about:
Re: The Obama-Ayers Connection - there's no "there" there
FactCheck.org on McCain/Palin's Wm Ayers ads
"New details have recently come to light, but
nothing Obama said previously has been shown
to be false."
Fact check: McCain campaign's William Ayers ad
Dallas Morning News, TX - 7 hours ago
FactCheck.org took a look at John McCain campaign's new ad
attacking Barack Obama and his association with 1960s radical
Wiliam Ayers. ...
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/fact-check-mccain-campa igns-wi.html
FactCheck.org took a look at John McCain campaign's new ad
attacking Barack Obama and his association with 1960s radical
Wiliam Ayers. It found the ad had false and misleading attacks.
===========
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html
"He Lied" About Bill Ayers?
October 10, 2008
McCain cranks out some false and misleading
attacks on Obama's connection to a 1960s radical.
Summary
In a TV ad, McCain says Obama "lied" about his association with
William Ayers, a former bomb-setting, anti-war radical from the
1960s and '70s. We find McCain's claim to be groundless.
New details have recently come to light, but nothing Obama
said previously has been shown to be false.
In a Web ad and in repeated attacks from the stump, McCain
describes the two as associates, and Palin claims they "pal
around" together. But so far as is known, their relationship was
never very close. An Obama spokesman says they last saw each
other in a chance encounter on the street more than a year ago.
McCain says in an Internet ad that the two "ran a radical
'education' foundation" in Chicago.
But the supposedly "radical" group was supported by a
Republican governor and included on its board prominent local
civic leaders, including one former Nixon administration official
who has given $1,500 to McCain's campaign this year.
Education Week says the group's work "reflected mainstream
thinking" among school reformers. The group was the Chicago
Annenberg Challenge, started by a $49 million grant from the
Annenberg Foundation, which was established by the publisher
Walter Annenberg, a prominent Republican whose widow, Leonore, is
a contributor to the McCain campaign.
(FactCheck.org, which is nonpartisan, also receives funding from
the Annenberg Foundation. But we are in no way connected to the
Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which finished its work long before
we came into being in late 2003.)
For full details, please read on to our Analysis section.
Analysis
Sen. John McCain has dialed up his attacks on Sen. Barack Obama's
past association with former Weather Underground activist Bill
Ayers. He released a 30-second TV spot Oct. 10 claiming Obama
"lied" about Ayers.
A day earlier he announced a 90-second Internet ad claiming
that Obama and Ayers "ran a radical education foundation
together" and suggesting Obama was being untruthful.
Groundless, False, Dubious
We find McCain's accusation that
Obama "lied" to be groundless.
It is true that recently released records show half a dozen or so
more meetings between the two men than were previously known, but
Obama never denied working with Ayers.
Other claims are seriously misleading.
The education project described in the Web ad, far from being
"radical," had the support of the Republican governor and was run
by a board that included prominent local leaders, including one
Republican who has donated $1,500 to McCain's campaign this year.
The project is described by Education Week as reflecting
"mainstream thinking" about school reform.
Despite the newly released records, there's still no evidence of
a deep or strong "friendship" with Ayers, a former radical
anti-war protester whose actions in the 1960s and '70s Obama has
called "detestable" and "despicable."
Even the description of Ayers as a "terrorist" is a matter of
interpretation. Setting off bombs can fairly be described as
terrorism even when they are intended to cause only property
damage, which is what Ayers has admitted doing in his youth.
But for nearly three decades since, Ayers has lived the
relatively quiet life of an educator. It would be correct to call
him a "former terrorist," and an "unapologetic" one at that. But
if McCain means the word "terrorist" to invoke images of 9/11,
he's being misleading; Ayers is no Osama bin Laden now, and never
was.
Who's Misleading?
McCain is not accurate when he says as he does in the Web ad
"When their relationship became an issue, Obama just responded,
'This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood.' " McCain is using
the same line in personal appearances, too.
Obama never said Ayers was "just" a guy in the neighborhood. The
quote is from a Democratic primary debate on April 16 in
Philadelphia, and Obama actually was more forthcoming than McCain
lets on. Obama specifically acknowledged working together with
Ayers on a charitable board, and didn't deny getting some early
political support from him.
"Pal Around"
The first to begin using the new line of attack against Obama was
McCain's running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, after a lengthy article
appeared Oct. 3 in the New York Times about Obama and Ayers:
Palin, Oct. 5: Our opponents see America as imperfect
enough to pal around with terrorists who would bomb
their own country.
She's repeated the charge again and again at different campaign
stops since then, citing the Times.
What the Times article actually says, however, is this:
"[T]he two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr.
Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions
of Mr. Ayers."
The Times says its review of documents and interviews with key
players "suggest" that Obama "has played down his contacts with
Ayers," but describes their paths as having crossed
"sporadically" since their first meeting in 1995.
And far from palling around with Ayers, the two haven't spoken by
phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the Senate
in January 2005, according to an Obama spokesman. He said the two
last saw each other more than a year ago, when they accidentally
met on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.
Stormy Weather, Underground
Bill Ayers' notoriety dates from the radical, anti-Vietnam War
group he helped to start in 1969, splintering off from the
activist Students for a Democratic Society. The members of the
new group, the Weather Underground, favored shows of violence to
further their cause. On March 6, 1970, though, three of them blew
themselves up in a Greenwich Village townhouse during a
bomb-making session gone badly awry. Ayers and his fellow
Weathermen, as they were called, soon dropped out of sight.
Barack Obama, who was born Aug. 4, 1961, was 8 years old at the
time.
The Weather Underground continued setting off bombs, including
one in a men's lavatory in the Capitol building in 1971 and
another in a women's restroom in the Pentagon in 1972. Nobody was
killed, due to evacuation warnings the Weathermen sent out in
advance.
After the Vietnam War ended, the group's activities petered out.
In 1980 Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member, surfaced and
turned themselves in to police. Because of illegal federal
wiretaps, pending charges against Ayers for allegedly inciting a
riot and conspiring to bomb government sites had been dropped.
Dohrn pleaded guilty to separate charges of aggravated battery
and jumping bail; she was fined $1,500 and given three years'
probation. Ayers and Dohrn, who had had two children together
while in hiding, married in 1982.
Several other Weather Underground alums, including Kathy Boudin,
along with some members of a group calling itself the Black
Liberation Army, were involved in a bungled 1981 robbery of a
Brinks truck in Nanuet, N.Y., in which a security guard and two
policemen were killed. Ayers and Dohrn have never been publicly
tied to the incident, which took place after they had turned
themselves in. Dohrn was jailed for seven months for refusing to
provide a handwriting sample to the grand jury investigating it.
Dohrn is now a clinical associate professor of law at
Northwestern University School of Law in Chicago. Ayers is a
professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
Locally, Ayers' radical past hasn't been much of an issue.
Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet wrote last spring that it
"was no big deal, or any deal, to any local political reporters
or to the editorial boards of the Sun-Times or [Chicago]
Tribune." Ayers was named a Chicago citizen of the year in 1997
for his efforts in the field of education.
In Chicago, Ayers is seen less as a "terrorist" and more as a
prodigal son of the local establishment....
===========end quote
.......cont....more of the same:
CONCLUSION:
Regarding Truth, is appears that
McCain - Palin are as reliable as Bush.
"Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me."
Ready to play the fool four more years?
Sarah Palin says rant:
Look, there's a part of me that honestly LIKES someone
like Palin. I meet SARAH PALINS EVERY DAY. But I
wouldn't want the hair dresser at the local Super Cuts
to suddenly be President of the United States.
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:18:05 -0600, RichTravsky <...@hotmMOVEail.com
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11164.html
...
Sinclair's biography, though, may get in the way of that pitch: Public
records and court filings reveal that he has a 27-year criminal record,
with a specialty in crimes involving deceit. The record includes forgery
charges in two states, one of which drew Sinclair a 16-year jail sentence.
The Pueblo County, Colo., Sheriff's Office also has an outstanding warrant
for Sinclair's arrest for forging an acquaintance's signature and stealing
her tax refunds.
...
Colorado records list him with 13 aliases, including "Larye Vizcarra Avila"
and "Mohammed Gahanan."
...
This February, the website Whitehouse.com reportedly offered Sinclair $100,000
if he could pass a polygraph test verifying his claims. He took them up on it,
and the site said in a press release that the polygraph organizers said his
results "indicated deception."
...
The records tell the story of an itinerant life of small-time crime and bad
checks, punctuated by stretches of jail time in two states.
He was first arrested on a larceny charge in 1981 in Denver, according to his
Colorado arrest record, as filed in federal court. In 1985, he was convicted of
theft and of forging a check in Florida, and sentenced to a year in jail,
according to Florida records filed in federal court.
After the Florida episode, according to the records, he returned to Colorado,
where he faced check fraud and credit card charges in 1986. Then, in 1987, he
was convicted in Colorado on more serious forgery charges, and sentenced to 16
years in jail.
In prison, according to state records filed in federal court, Sinclair was
disciplined 97 times for infractions including assault, threats, drug possession,
intimidation, and verbal abuse, most recently in 1996.
...
HAHAH HAH AHHHAHHAHAAHA
Wanted for theft forgery:
http://www.co.pueblo.co.us/cgi-bin/webpurbroker.wsc/mostoff.html?name=135062
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:41:17 -0400, "Tazmanian Devil" <...@biteme.com
Pillow talk? What else did Larry whisper in your ear?
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:36:54 -0700 (PDT), rigger <...@aol.com
On Oct 13, 11:16 am, Anonymous Remailer
<...@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de
When the pressure is on the neo-cons the slime runs out.
This is my theory, thank you for validating it.
dennis
in nca
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:21:29 -0700, "Gandalf Grey" <...@gmail.com
"Anonymous Remailer" <...@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.demessage
news...@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de...
Fixed that for you.
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:44:56 -0700 (PDT), whistler <...@gmail.com
On Oct 13, 3:21 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <...@gmail.com
More Pseudo Millitaristicle morons get syphilitic degenerative brain
deterioration from sucking ass and licking shoes, than from any other
cause.
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