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Re: Good tutorial for working with XML

On Sat, 30 May 2009 07:29:00 +0200, "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <...@planet.nl

Nick,

You sound now like older guys who could not go on with the progress.

Linq is like WPF like WCF like Personal Webbrowser '98 like FrontPage '98
like IE 4.0 like Win3.11

You tell it is not your way, and at a certain moment you see you are busy
in the newsgroup where those old VB6 developers are in nicely talking about
all the faults Microsoft has made

I don't like Linq either, but I hope that it has progress and that by
instance the datasource from Linq to SQL becomes more manageable.
As that kind of things not happen (I don't mean in version '10 but the next
because that takes always at least 2 versions) then I know it will have a
short live.

But at the moment I have beside an English-Dutch dictionary the book Linq in
Action on my desk.

:-)

Just my opinion,

Cor

"nak" <...@microsoft.com...



On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:49:31 +0100, "nak" <...@a.com

Hey Cor,

Well not necessarily, I'm not stuck in my ways, in fact I always try out
the latest methodologies to see if they will make my code any slicker. But
one thing I'm not afraid of doing is writing a load of code to get the job
done properly, LINQ can save time, but that doesn't mean it should be used
imo. It's not doing anything that couldn't be done before, it's just doing
it quicker, and as for generics??! LOL! That's going back a whole load of
steps.

LOL, VB6 developers constantly cussing .NET? Yeah but that is quite
different from cussing a specific element added to a language to make things
"quicker" to write, but not necessarily "better" to write. The second MS
sort out debugging a huge LINQ statement, into a more manageable process,
I'll start playing with it again, but as for now I just remove any LINQ I
come across (providing I have time).

Hopefully! But then MS seem to be pulling allot of things lately, for
some odd reason. 2 things I've only just found out about (a bit slow I
know), but Live Messenger 2009 API, and Managed DirectX. Quite why Managed
DirectX was pulled really confuses me, especially as DirectX is accessible
through WPF, I was kind of presuming it would use the managed interface, I
guess not?

Anyways that's another story entirely.

LOL! Keep hold of it, it might be an antique one day ;) When people
say "LINQ what is that?"...

Nick.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:08:35 -0700, Tom Shelton <...@comcastXXXXXXX.net

On 2009-06-02, nak <...@a.com
You think generics are a step backwards? Wow. Safer code is a step
backwards? Faster code is a step backwards? Interesting.

--
Tom Shelton

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:08:52 +0100, "nak" <...@a.com

Hi Tom,

I'm referring to the generic variables declared during LINQ statements.
Maybe I don't have the name correct, "Implicitly Typed Local Variables", aka
"var". I don't like it at all.

Personally I prefer everything to be explicitly declared, I'm very anal
with my coding in that respect lol!

Nick.

On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:05:48 -0700, Tom Shelton <...@comcastXXXXXXX.net

On 2009-06-03, nak <...@a.com
Ah... Now I get you.

Again, I can't say I wholly disagree with you on this. I personally find type
automatic type inference to be a bit distasteful.

--
Tom Shelton

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:15:03 +0200, "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <...@planet.nl

Tom,

We know (Nick I forgot Tom in my previous post beside Armin)

:-)

Cor

"Tom Shelton" <...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:13:36 +0200, "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <...@planet.nl

Hi Nak,

There was in previous time some guys which endless message threads who said
the Option Strict should be off

Do you remember who they were (I know that Armin was against this).

This option Infer is the solution to do what this guys wanted and in the
same way create strongly typed code

:-)

Cor

"nak" <...@microsoft.com...

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:18:26 +0100, "nak" <...@a.com

Hey Cor,

LOL! *shuffles feet*

I may have been one also as I never really used it until I started
mixing up code with other developers, then it came into its own and I make
sure I turn it on when I create a new project each time. The only times I
have disabled it as of late is when referencing COM objects with no
interface, then only for the class level.

I remember that discussion well! lol! :D

Nick.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:41:19 -0500, "David Glienna" <...@siokonline.com

The best tool for the job works in my book, and LINQ to XML does all the
work for you, if you can figure out the LINQ query. I've used it in a few
projects, and like LINQ to SQL as well.

--
David Glienna (VB MVP - 2006,2007,2008)
SIOK Online - Remote PC Programming & Repair
http://www.siokonline.com

"nak" <...@microsoft.com...

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:19:47 -0700, Tom Shelton <...@comcastXXXXXXX.net

On 2009-06-06, David Glienna <...@siokonline.com
I like linq to xml very much - but, linq to sql, not so much. It's slow, and
since I already have a pretty decent DAL in place, it doesn't seem to buy me
much.

--
Tom Shelton

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