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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:19:26 +0100, "Ophelia" <...@elsinore.me.uk
"Dave Smith" <...@news.newshosting.com...
Oh dear:( Time for less active holidays? You could always chase the fat
one around with your horse whip. I suspect she can't run too fast:)))
Awww I do sympathise, really.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:06:32 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
<snipped for space
Sorry sorry to hear this, Dave. Hope you heal up soon.
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Chatty Cathy
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia <...@mypacks.net
On Sep 2, 9:59 am, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
Sorry to hear of this mishap. Glad it wasn't worse. Advise you to
forget jumping. We ALL have to make adjustments as we age - ya ain't
alone.
Rest easy - maybe THIS is the time to read "War and Peace".
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:20:07 -0700, RegForte <...@nospam.com
Dave,
My sympathies to you. I did the same to my ribs when I got skewered
by a surf board. It will take some time to heal. Don't rush it,
listen to your body, etc. Going back to a full schedule too soon
might keep you off your exercise routine even longer.
As to more riding, I don't believe it's a clear cut answer. If it's
something that you really need to do and really enjoy then it's
worth some amount of risk. Man/Woman does not live by bread alone
and living a full, satifying life is a trade off which often involves
taking on risk.
Is there a way you can somehow lower the risk but still participate?
That would be my approach. Don't know if that means finding a safer
horse or a safer course or a slower pace or what.
If it were me I would not quit altogether but only you can make that
decision.
Be well.
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:32:33 -0400, "Nancy Young" <...@comcast.net
Dave, I'm just happy you're not hurt worse. I'm sure you're not
happy right now, but you'll be feeling better.
Follow the dosing instructions with the Tylenol.
Eh, you could get hurt tripping on your rocking chair. I say don't
give it up.
nancy
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:50:21 -0500, Sky <...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM
Well bummer and more! Please don't let a broken rib keep you from
enjoying what you like, er, after it heals that is ;) When walking
down/up the street, anyone could've just as easily tripped on a curb and
done the same thing, perhaps? I wish you good luck and a speedy
recovery.
Sky, who's had quite a few broken bones over the years
--
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:37:07 -0500, Kathleen <...@charter.net
Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. No matter how careful
and how skillful you might be, sometimes there simply no compensating
for the fact that a horse is basically a thousand pounds of stupid.
When our orthopedic vet heard that my daughter wanted to specialize in
large animals he cleared his throat, shuffled his feet and then said,
"Listen, I know you're not going to want to hear this, but of the class
I graduated with, of all the guys who went into large animal practice,
not one of them is still with it after 15 years. Just saying..."
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:10:23 -0500, Andy <...@b.c
Dave Smith said...
Geez, that sucks! At lease you live to talk about it!
At YMCA camp I was 7-yo, a horse reared me off it, I landed on the ground.
It was just a roped around and around a pole, coral exercise. Don't know
what I did or didn't do or why it did what it did but I've never gone near
a horse ever since.
Andy
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:21:39 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I used to ride once every year or two and fell off so often that I
assumed that was part of the deal. I have been taking lessons for the
last 6 years and had not fallen for more than two years. Only got hurt a
few times falling, but broken collar bone and rib are painful enough to
make me reconsider equestrian jumping at my age.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:31:52 -0500, Andy <...@b.c
Dave Smith said...
Heck, Dave, you've been in the saddle that long and you like it that much,
now is no time to quit!
It seems you have falling off a horse down pat and still get back on! I
quit after once.
Best,
Andy
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:46:16 -0700 (PDT), Bryan <...@gmail.com
On Sep 2, 9:21 am, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
Maybe it was your personality.
Really. You don't have to give up riding, just quit putting obstacles
in the horse's way.
--Bryan
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:39:18 -0600, Gloria P <...@comcast.net
You can still ride, can't you, without jumping. I'd modify before
deciding to give it up completely if you really love it.
In my mid 60's I still ski, just not on the same slopes and a bit
slower than I did 20 years ago. (Didn't really start until I was 40,
old enough to develop some coordination.) ;-)
gloria p
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:00:21 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
There are places where I can trail ride, but after a number of years of
jumping lessons, doing a lot of trotting, cantering and jumping, trail
riding would be pretty boring.
I have told the stable that I am out for at least a month and wondering
if I should continue. Maybe I can stick it out for a while. I am not in
advanced classes and my instructor does not push me. She knows I am
just there for fun and not preparing for competition like my class
mates. I just don't like the idea of having another broken bone down the
road and having to think about how I should have taken a hint after two.
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:18:28 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"Dave Smith" <...@sympatico.ca
I hear you. I am the same age. Things just don't heat the way they used
to.
Forget the lessons. Throw away that English saddle and bridle and get a
nice comfortable Western saddle and ride a neck-reining horse. Trail rides
are a whole lot of fun, you can pack a nice lunch in a saddle bag and have a
heck of a good time with less of a chance of injury.
All the lessons you need for that will take about 2 minutes.
George L
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:03:38 -0700, Mark Thorson <...@sonic.net
Note that Tylenol must never be combined with alcohol.
It causes liver failure.
On the other hand, ibuprofen seems to be fine with
alcohol, though it's unlikely the manufacturer or
your doctor will tell you that.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:27:23 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@sonic.net Mark Thorson <...@sonic.net
True, but don't forget that Ibuprofen (while it IS my OTC painkiller of
choice) is hard on the kidneys.
Drink lots of water with it.
I won't touch Tylenol in any combo.
But, that's just me.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:00:19 -0400, Goomba <...@comcast.net
It *can*, not that it always does.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:27:41 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@mid.individual.net Goomba <...@comcast.net
Indeed.
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:58:35 +1000, atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.com
I am thinking old dog
mmm might be time to fess up your no horsy rider , perhaps a good game
of canasta as falling is natures way of telling you " Fella your unco"
next time you might not just break stuff and survive..
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:08:50 -0400, "cybercat" <...@yahoo.com
"atec 7 7" <"atec 77"@...@news.eternal-september.org...
Well, Dave, I guess you got what you deserved here.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:10:04 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.comseptember.org:
ROFL!!!
I'll give a rough translation for that :-)
"Dave, you're an unco."
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Unco
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:09:24 -0400, "cybercat" <...@yahoo.com
"Dave Smith" <...@sympatico.ca
It would help if you had your own horse or at least one to ride that you
know well. But really, you'd be wise to quit, hard as it might be. I have
friends who have gone on to really hurt themselves on horses in their 60s.
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:45:33 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <...@snet.net
"cybercat" <...@newsfe25.iad...
They should try younger, more agile horses.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:43:06 -0400, "Jean B." <...@rcn.com
Oh, boo! That's really unfortunate.
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Jean B.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:01 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.newshosting.com Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I'm so sorry Dave. :-(
It's hard to give up something you love.
Is there any way you can wear protective clothing of some sort?
I've never broken a bone yet, but I have hurt myself a few times doing
things I enjoy, but I keep doing them anyway...
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:21 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I never broke a bone until I was 52 and got thrown over a jump. That was
a collar bone and it was 6 years ago. I have to say that as painful as
this is when I move the wrong way, it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much
as the collar bone did.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:05:23 GMT, notbob <...@nothome.com
On 2009-09-02, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
One of the reasons I quit riding a motorcycle full time. My likewise
ex-motorcycling buddy said it best. "I don't bounce worth a damn,
anymore." ;)
nb
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:51:09 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I ride a motorcycle too. My older brother gave me a big tut tut,
suggesting that after breaking bones on two different occasions I should
not wait until the third one because it could be more serious. Good
advice coming from someone who has had two motorcycle accidents himself.
He broke a rib the last time. Curious that eh thinks I should quit
riding horses but sees no problem with himself still riding a motorcycle.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:06:10 +1000, atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.com
Having broken over a dozen bones on bikes I finally stopped when told
another fall would mean not walking again
Sometimes you just have to stop
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:04:04 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.newshosting.com Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I can understand. I fell and sprained my right rotator cuff not too
long ago and it's causing me a lot of pain issues, altho' Airrosti is
helping it to heal a lot faster than it normally would.
The clavicle being part of the shoulder girdle, I can bet it hurt one
HELL of a lot! I'm betting you had trouble sleeping...
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:48:40 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I have damaged both rotators over the years, and at the time I figured
that was the most painful injury I had ever suffered. Accidentally
moving the arm would cause a blast of searing pain that will bring tears
to your eyes, but that severe pain only lasted for a few days and then
it was just stiff and sore for a long time. The collar bone ranks right
up there in pain, maybe even a little worse, and it lasted a lot longer.
The only way I slept with the collar bone was with Oxycontin at bedtime
and another one around 4 am after waking up in pain. I had to sleep on
my back, which I can't do unless under heavy duty medication.
The fractured rib is nowhere near as painful as the collarbone, except
that it also requires that I sleep on my back. The Tylenol 3 at bedtime
allows me to sleep through the night. Then it is time for the extra
strength Tylenol and Ibuprophen combination as soon as I get up.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:25:19 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.newshosting.com Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
<hugs
I understand. A steroid shot got me thru the worst of it, but not until
day 10.
Ow. Hope you heal up quick!
Take your minerals. :-)
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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Anonymous Wrote:
Omelet <...@gmail.com
So in your experience, how does Airrosti differ from conventional
physical therapy?
I'm facing a slow-healing sprain myself the past several weeks.
Steve
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:42:58 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
Works faster. The hands on therapy speeds things up for soft tissue
injury, and the practitioners have the training to help you learn the
exercises you need to know and do to help yourself.
Dr. Perry helped me with both newer and very much older leg injuries
sustained from a fall in 2008 and being clipped by a pickup truck while
walking back to the student parking lot when I was 23. (I'm 47) He also
taught me a series of leg exercises I'd never done before and I followed
all of his advice.
I can now move better than I've been able to in years.
As for the rotator cuff injury, it's not quite ok just yet, but last
time I hurt one, (the left, this is now the right), it took over a year
to get back to even a semblance of normal and never really has been
right. I've asked him for help with that one too.
The right one, after less than two months, is already far advanced over
what I experienced last time.
Are you in Texas or Oklahoma? That is currently the only two areas they
have providers in.
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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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Anonymous Wrote:
Omelet <...@gmail.com
Nope, California. Do they do proximal interphalangeal joint injuries?
I am under the care of a CHT (Certified Hand Therapist) and she
is very good, but not as hands on as a DC would be, much less
an Airrosti. But she has specified a ton of exercises.
Steve
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:08:10 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
Hm, I'm going to have to ask Perry about this one. The only therapies
that even approximate this are myofacial release and ART as far as I can
tell.
You may be able to find people that do that in your area.
I hope this helps!!!
As for PIJ injuries, not sure. Here is the website:
http://airrosti.com/
Most of the practitioners are DC's with additional training. It's
almost scary how much this guy knows about anatomy and musculoskelatal
physiology. :-)
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:45:15 -0700 (PDT), Golden One <...@westnet.com.au
On Sep 3, 3:04 am, Omelet <...@gmail.com
Ouch, I did that a couple of years ago when surfing. Took about 8
months to get full mobility back. For the first couple of weeks I
could not raise my upper arm at all. Shaking hands with business
associates was very odd, I just sort of stuck my lower arm straight
out from the waist!
I broke my collar bone as a youngster. Husband broke his last year. It
is one of those things that move with just about every movement you
make so it is very painful. Husband has only just regained full
shoulder mobility, after about 12 months.
JB
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:02:57 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article
<...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com Golden One <...@westnet.com.au
I'm past that point in just under 2 months. :-)
Airrosti rulz!
Mom told me about hers once. Broke it in a car accident.
I feel blessed to have never (yet!) broken a bone!
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:46:25 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
It is one of those bones whose function you just don't realize until you
break it and discover how many body movements it is involved with. The
morning after I broke mine I it took me close to 10 minutes just to get
out of bed in the morning. Just about every move you make somehow puts
stress on it.
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:49:32 +0100, "Ophelia" <...@elsinore.me.uk
Ouch:((
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:10:52 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.newshosting.com Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
Somehow that does not surprise me. Just the rotator cuff sprain gives me
hell in much the same way. ;-)
The shoulders do more than we think they do!
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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:25:46 -0400, blake murphy <...@verizon.net
gotta love the scientific approach.
your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:35:32 GMT, "ViLco" <...@ViLco.invalid
It would be sad, Dave. What about sticking with plain riding and avoid
jumping? It sure would be safer and you could still be riding.
Best wishes for your recovery.
--
Vilco
Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
qualcosa da bere a portata di mano
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:49:44 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
I suppose that I could try dressage, which I appreciate is a lot of work
and discipline, but which IMO is about as exciting as watching paint
dry. Ideally, I would like to find a place with trail rides that involve
trotting and cantering, but there aren't any places I know of that do that.
One idea is to get my own horse and board it, but board is expensive.
However, if I can find a nice calm horse that can be used for the horse
therapy program they will give me free board. The money I have been
paying for lessons could go toward that. I will have to talk to them
about that.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:10:09 -0500, Kathleen <...@charter.net
My daughter's horse fell on her this past March and I made her go to the
ER to make sure she hadn't ruptured her liver or spleen. Her x-rays
were appalling. Her ribs and sternum looked like they'd been overlaid
with spider webs - evidence of old fractures from all the times she'd
been thrown, kicked and stomped.
Have your stable help you find an appropriate horse. Fugly Horse of the
Day is also an excellent resource for advice on chosing an appropriate
mount.
http://www.fuglyblog.com/
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:54:16 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
The one that I usually ride in my lessons is a schoolie.... calm and
reliable, but lazy. My instructor had said that a bigger, faster horse
means a bigger and faster fall.
I talked to the barn owner about an hour ago and told her I won't be
there for at least a month and that I am going to have to think about
continuing the jumping lessons. It's a lot of fun when things are going
right, but can be a lot of pain when things go wrong. Meanwhile, I am
going to look for some place where I can do some sort of trail riding
with speed, not just guided walking tours.
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:39:25 -0700, sf <...@geemail.com
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:10:09 -0500, Kathleen
<...@charter.net
I sent this site on to a horsey friend who will be interested in the
"adopt me" horses and appalled by some of the stories, thanks.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:31:46 -0500, Kathleen <...@charter.net
I love the terms she's coined - "hideozygous" is absolutely classic, as
is "nest" - the anatomical feature substituting for a distinct neck and
chest in poorly conformed horses.
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:44:33 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
That was my first thought also. Dave, you shouldn't have to give up riding
COMPLETELY if you love it that much. Lin goes horseback riding with her
niece and grandchildren every chance she gets, but she obviously doesn't
take a five-year-old onto a steeplechase course!
Also, Peter needs to have a couple chutes fail, doesn't he?
Bob
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.astraweb.com "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
No comment...
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:59:21 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
You can let 'Boogle Bob' know that I have indeed had more than a couple of
chutes fail, but I survived them all.
It comes down to training, and reactions. Something the OP has lost at 60
years of age.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:57:01 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
I considered that to be private information. I figured it was up to you
to tell him if you wanted him to know. :-) You are lucky to be alive!
But a little empathy would be nice... Who was that actor that became a
quadriplegic after being thrown from a horse while playing polo?
He was lucky to only have broken a rib, but still!
I like you Peter, but sometimes you shock me a bit by being so callous.
:-(
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:24:35 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
And I thank you most kindly for that.
The Devil looks after his own :-)
Empathy comes with sympathy, and you know where to find that in the
dictionary.
I just stated a *fact*.
A 60yo has f*** all instinctive reactions.
Yeah, they *do* have them......... but they're about 5 seconds too late.
Don't know. I don't live my life following the "stars".
Yes, Dave was extremely lucky. Which is why he should listen to reason and
get the hell of the horses back, and do something commensurate with his
*ability*....... not his ambition.
Rule #3 in the Peter Lucas School of Charm..........
Don't get your ambitions mixed up with your capabilities.
'Callous' is a bit harsh.
Blunt, direct, to the point..... yes.
Callous.... no.
I do not torture any living thing...... and if I have to kill anything, I
do it quickly amd humanely.
I class callous as those cowardly individuals that attack someone after
they have died........ Real 'heros' that they are.
II Corinthians 11:19
"I do not suffer fools lightly."
That being said........... Dave is *still* an idiot for thinking he can
steeplechase horses at 60 years of age.
And he'll get no sympathy from me.
If he came up and said that he had pancreatic cancer, and his left nut was
going to turn black and drop off........ I'd give him every sympathy.
Till then....... he's an idiot 60yo trying to act like a 30yo.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:34:28 -0600, "graham" <...@shaw.ca
"PeterL" <...@61.9.191.5...
Then HTF do you live with yourself?
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:36:14 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"PeterL" <...@brissie.aus
It is amazing how many people turn to the Bible to justify their bad
behavior while ignoring the overall message.
Try this verse:
"Be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each
other's faults because of your love." Ephesians 4:2,
George L
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:36:45 -0600, "graham" <...@shaw.ca
"George Leppla" <...@enews2.newsguy.com...
I prefer:
"The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
W.S., M.ofV, 1/iii
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:09:58 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"George Leppla" <...@enews2.newsguy.com:
I try that, and when all else fails.............. II Corinthians 11:19
(And no, I'm not usually in the habit of quoting the bible, I did a Google
on the phrase and that's what came up.)
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:31:18 -0700, RegForte <...@nospam.com
You can do whatever you want. It's all good. It's just that I don't buy
that this is about you "not suffering a fool". You're being mean cause
you have your own issues about aging and the accompanying loss it signifies
to you. Hence your over-the-top projection in Dave's case. Sympathy for
him drives you nutz because of your own feelings, anxieties, and doubts
about yourself.
And the "I'm a tell it like it is kinda guy" thing is BS, too. That's just
a self-congratulatory spin to justify acting on what are purely selfish
impulses.
Normally I like your food related posts but you were off on this one.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:43:04 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
RegForte <...@news.eternal-september.org:
And you are............???? Apparently a wannabe Freud.
Don't give up your day job.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:51:27 -0400, "Nancy Young" <...@comcast.net
Well put.
nancy
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:53:51 -0400, "cybercat" <...@yahoo.com
"George Leppla" <...@enews2.newsguy.com...
aughghghghggh! I'm meltinnnnnnnnnng!
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Anonymous Wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:53:51 -0400, "cybercat" <...@yahoo.com
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My cat's head just spun three times, threw up green stuff, eyes glowed, now
it's cat bed is levitating. AArrggggggg
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:17:20 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"cybercat" <...@newsfe07.iad...
FWIW... I don't usually quote the Bible much unless it is to counter someone
like Peter. I kind of like doing that. Back in the day, if I had time I
would love to get into long biblical discussions with the door-to-door
evangelists, countering each of their quotes with one of my own... then
putting them on the defensive. It usually didn't take me very long.... the
book of Deuteronomy can be a real stickler for people who claim to believe
the Bible to be factual and the one and only "truth"... including acceptance
of slavery. <vbg
George L
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:18:59 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
I'm learning. <gHence my vague post...
<snorkI'd get together with you to figure out how to install air conditioning.
But still... he's good people!
You could at least fake it just to be nice?
Bob Muncie helped with that. He played "Superman" in the first few of
the modern series. Damned shame.
But 60 is not old! Gods. Shoot me please when I hit 60 if that is OLD!
Retirement age is not until 65.
It's why I'm working my ass off right now to try to get back in shape,
and shelling out over $300.00 per month out of pocket for therapy!
I have lots of plans for retirement, and being disabled is not one of
them!
I don't know about you, but I've rarely ever "mentally" felt my age.
I'm 47 and I wonder where the hell 25 went. <g
My mom died at age 68 of pulmonary hypertension. Almost clear up until
the end, she wondered where the hell the time went. At least she died
with her mind intact, if not with her boots on. <sigh
I hope I go the same way. Fully aware.
Again, 60 is NOT old! ;-)
I sure as hell hope not anyhoo.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:49:03 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Friends gave me a t-shirt awhile back. On it was...... "Heaven doesn't want
me, and Hells afraid I'll take over" :-)
So when you get down there, just ask for the Boss, then we'll sort out the
air-con thing ;-P
He more than likely is.
LOL!! No.
Never have, never will.
The two girls, when they were aged about 13 and 11, used to come up and ask
me how they looked in a certain outfit.
The SO says "Why don't you ask me?"
They replied, "Mum, if we want the sugar coated truth, we come and ask you.
If we want the real truth, we ask Peter."
:-)
Lifes too short to beat around the bush.
I'm not saying he's "old".
I'm saying at that stage in life, there are certain things that are more than
likely going to cause a great deal of pain to you, so you should avoid
them...... unless of course, you're a masochist.
Well, truth be known, 60 *is* getting near the end of the run!!
At 60 your eyesight isn't what it used to be, your reaction times are not the
same as a 30yo's, and your bones are weaker than a 30yo.
LOL!! I saw 'therapy' and immediately thought of that great 'Merikan'
tradition of having a "Shrink" on your speed dial!!
But yes, I know what you mean when you say therapy :-)
Even at 47, if you have a pretty bad injury, it's going to affect you a lot
more than if you were 30...... or even 20.
Bones I broke back when I was in my 20's aren't any problem to me now.....
but bones I broke in my mid-30's are causing me quite a bit of grief.
Take it easy with the exercise thing then ;-)
I used to say I was a 28yo trapped in an older body. But, I've had to adjust
my way of thinking. Now I'm a 35yo trapped in an older body.
5 or so years down the track, I may adjust again and become 40 :-)
I was out on a job this morning and the guy who was partnering me was ex-Army
also. We got talking about things and when I mentioned time/years, he got
this strange look on his face and asked "How old are you??"
I said 53 and he was quite shocked.
His estimate was early 40's :-)
Must have been the haircut I got the other day :-)
Yep. We're watching the SO's mum slowly lose it all. She's now in a private
nursing home, in the dementia ward :-(
But........ she still remembers me :-)
I've never said 60 is "old".
All I've stated is that 60yo's shouldn't try to act like 30yo's. But if they
do, and injure themselves, they shouldn't really expect sympathy from me.
It's common sense, really.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:26:07 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe14.iad:
Your point???
If I was to come in here and say that I tested the sharpness of my
filleting knife by running it on my tongue, or finger, and I had to get 6
stiches to sew up the wound......... you'd be justified in your post.
I haven't.... you aren't.
It does not detract from the fact that the OP is an idiot after soppy
sympathy.
YMMV.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:41:37 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Gloria P <...@mid.individual.net:
I don't really :-)
I just voiced my opinion and now everyone and his dog has an opinion on my
opinion :-)
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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why are they made of meat?
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:19:26 -0400, blake murphy <...@verizon.net
'i do not suffer fools gladly' usually translates into 'i am a pompous
asshole.'
your pal,
blake
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:40:27 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe14.iad:
LOL!!! Because I call it like it is and don't conform to the "popular"
train of thought??!!
Some people *really* get their knickers in a twist when others don't bend
over and conform to their way of thinking, don't they?
Your opinion, which you are rightly entitled to, as am I.
Or.... can't I have an opinion unless it conforms with everyone elses??
It seems so.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:56:06 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
<Cathy passes Peter a bigger shovel
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:30:28 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@newsfe14.iad ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
<laughs--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:44:43 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe14.iad:
Don't need one.
Well....... am I 'allowed' to have my own opinion?
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:14:23 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
Sure, son - if it means that much to you. But please remember, you'll
have to feed it and take care of it yourself, otherwise Dad won't let
you keep it.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:20:22 -0400, blake murphy <...@verizon.net
<snort
your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:07:32 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
OK, will do. Already bought some opinion food.
So now that everyone knows I own my own opinion, they won't crack a spaz
when I bring it out again ;-P
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:07:09 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"PeterL" <...@brissie.aus
No... you are not "calling it like it is". You are "calling it like YOU see
it" and you expect that your opinion is the sole and correct truth and you
insult anyone who doesn't agree with you.
The problem is that you don't seem to be able to disagree with someone
without insulting them. Why are the insults necessary? Are you unable to
express your opinions without putting someone else down at the same time?
Does putting people down make you feel bigger, stronger, smarter? No? Then
why do it? Why not let your opinion stand on it's own merits?
When your message is shrouded in personal insults... the message gets lost.
People concentrate on the insult and not the message. Your method DOES
detract from your message.
The WAY you express your opinion tells people a lot more about you than your
opinion does.
And I'm done preaching for the day.
George L
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:09:48 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"George Leppla" <...@enews2.newsguy.com:
Which is what I said, I call like it is (for me). Some people have a hard
time trying to understand that.
Ummmmmmmmm, if you care to look back on this thread, you'll see that I
have stated many times that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and
I gave mine.
And *I* wasn't the one throwing out the insults because *I* didn't agree
with what someone else said.
I only insult people who insult me.
As for the OP, telling him that he was useless at something, when it is
plainly obvious to see, and that he should take up another hobby... is
*not* an insult.
The way that I express my opinion probably speaks volumes as to why I'd
never make it as a politician. I don't sugar coat anything, I don't namby-
pamby someone, and most of all, I don't kiss ass.
There's too many people on here doing those things already.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:22:28 -0400, blake murphy <...@verizon.net
but there aren't nearly enough people congratulating themselves for being
an asshole.
blake
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:29:56 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"PeterL" <...@brissie.aus
No, it speaks volumes as to your inability to interact with adults in a
mature, social manner. You can try to justify your behavior by quoting the
Bible or pointing to the short-comings in others, but the bottom line is
that you really don't have the minimal social skills necessary to to have an
adult conversation so you resort to personal attacks.
George L
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:09:36 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"personal attacks"???
I have a motto........ you be nice to me, I be nice to you.
You no nice to me, I no nice to you.
Even a simpleton like you should be able to understand that basic
concept.
But if you're calling my Op a "personal attack" you really need to stop
crying, dry your eyes and get out into the real world.
Apart from that, you comments above shows everyone that you wouldn't know
shit from clay, even with a mouthfull.
*And* it also shows you to be a complete hypocrite.
Think about it.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:37:00 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
I have already heard that tune from you George.
Is it possible you know not from which you speak?
Here you are noobing at someone with much the same words.
Can you grow what you have to say to include something new?
Just a question...
Bob
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 07:07:19 -0500, "George Leppla" <...@cruisemaster.com
"Bob Muncie" <...@news.eternal-september.org...
Wonderful. Your path to enlightenment has begun.
A plain spoken man would say "Is it possible that you don't know what you
are talking about?" Perhaps your Olde English affectation masks social
deficiencies?
Bob, unfortunately, you are not unique.
How else would you like me to explain it to you? You take offence when none
is intended. You insult people when it isn't necessary. You are thin
skinned and like looking for an argument and today, you won't get it from
me. I have work to do.
George L
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:07:48 GMT, PeterL2 <...@home.in.brissie
Yep, GL teaches Hypocrisy 101 at the local 'Speshal' school.
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:04:55 -0400, blake murphy <...@verizon.net
aw, george. go ahead and slap him!
your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:26:35 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
<Trimmed for just adding informational point.
Christopher Reeve aka - Superman
Bob
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:00:21 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.eternal-september.org Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
Thanks! I just could not think of the Actors name.
I did know it was Superman.
A serious loss. The new one is too short but that's beside the point. :-(
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:04:02 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
But he was made of the "right stuff"!. The fact he'd Go back after the
bad guys after having almost just been drowned, means he's someone I'd
look up to.
Bob
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:53:17 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.eternal-september.org Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
Oh Superman returns was indeed very good. :-) Just too bad the poor guy
never gets the girl...
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:46:34 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Who's the new one??
The last Superman movie I saw had Reeves in it.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:54:38 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Brandon Routh
He's a dead ringer for Reeves, just shorter.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:57:07 -0600, Gloria P <...@comcast.net
Sixty isn't exactly ancient, dude! My husband's maiden aunt ran an
Alaska marathon when she was in her late 60s and she used to x-country
ski miles to work at the university because it was too much trouble to
install the battery back into her car in the morning in very cold
weather. She retired from Alaska to Maine where she split and stacked
5 cords of wood every winter till she died at 84.
My late mother-in-law came to visit from CT and skied with us at
Keystone when she was 72. She died 2 months short of her 90th birthday.
Her second husband still tended a large vegetable garden at 90. Lived
to 94. At seventy they still called themselves "middle aged".
gloria p
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:05:45 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
Gloria - I did not post that part... only added the Christopher Reeve line.
Bob
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:32:16 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
Your hubby's aunt has my respect. Anyone that splits and stacks 5 cords
(not face cords as a regular cord is twice that amount) has my respect
as being someone physically fit. Note I didn't mention gender. And to do
that at her age, is impressive.
Bob
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:38:15 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Gloria P <...@mid.individual.net:
Not saying it is, Gloria.
I said *reactions* are lost around that age.
And reactions are what saves you from death or injury.
She sounds like she was very healthy. What did she die of??
(BTW, had to look up 'cord'. It's a stack of 48" logs that is 4' high and
8' wide.)
Yep, I'm not denying that.
I also know some very sprightly 70 year olds.
The OP is not in that class.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:27:02 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Hell, I'm only 47 so WTF is my excuse? I've fallen and hurt myself 3
bloody times just since February! Sprained rotator cuff, badly bruised
re-injured right hip and pulled right groin muscle were the results.
Having that groin muscle treated was excruciating, but worth it.
Especially since I'd pulled the left one as well during an overly
enthusiastic stretching session back in January...
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:02:25 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
The need to be supervised? <gb
Just kidding ;-)
Bob
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:52:22 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.eternal-september.org Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
<snork
I sprained the shoulder when I lost my balance doing standing lunges...
Hurt myself while exercising? <shakes headPulled the right groin muscle falling off of a kitchen chair I was using
as a step ladder. Dumb. Dr. Perry is not letting me live it down either.
<g
But, that's the point. I can live my entire life sitting on my ass in
this chair on the internet. Life is not without risk and it's a lot more
FUN (and healthy) to stay active!
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:00:53 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
You're speshal ;-)
Ouch!!
One reason I gave up all that exercise crap about 5 years ago. Now I get
all the exercise I need at 'work'.
Unlike some people on here who's only exercise regime is jumping to
conclusions :-)
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:58:04 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Or lucky I guess. <g
That's an understatement...
Indeed.
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:04:30 -0600, Gloria P <...@comcast.net
A heart attack. She had become a recluse and wasn't found for nearly 2
weeks after she died at home. It wasn't pretty.
Yes. Those of us who have ever heated with wood are very familiar with
that cord measurement. A "face cord" is 4'x8'x24 inches. "Serious"
firewood is priced by the cord in most places in the U.S. In the
suburbs where wood fires are mostly decorative, it is possible to buy
wood at the supermarkets, ~four 18" logs wrapped in plastic (so bark and
dust won't get tracked into the house) and generally priced at just
under $5. :-(
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:40:34 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Gloria P <...@mid.individual.net:
:-(
I hear that sort of thing all the time on the news, and you just have to
think "Didn't *anyone* care about the person?? Didn't anyone notice they
were missing??" It's rather sad.
But, if she had made herself a recluse, it was probably to be expected.
Still sad though.
I've seen the same sort of thing here.... firewood in a plastic bag at
service stations selling for about $12 for 4kgs!!
And people buy it!!
If I need some, I just grab a chainsaw, go for a drive and get all the
free firewood I want.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:02:36 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
I just wander around my yard and cut up downed branches... I'll be
cleaning up the lot of them this fall when the weather cools off enough
to work outside more and making a new wood pile.
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:08:21 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
PeterL <...@brissie.aus61.9.191.5:
74A160.01023604092009
They'd have to be big branches....... I like big fires ;-)
The last fire we had on the back deck was during a cold snap and I
started it to keep the guest warm while we sat outside and admired the
clear skies and all the starts.
The logs on there were from a 12-14"dia tree, and split in half.
Nice fresh pine trees...... smelt quite nice while it was burning :-)
Just remember........ "Zero Harm"....... keep injuries to a minimum!!
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:20:21 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Some of them are, but I only build fires in the smoker or grill.
Large for that is not so good. 6" to 8" diameter is about max.
Pretty! I'd use my cedar for that.
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:06:12 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
And the property owners don't mind if you steal from them? Or are you a
sneak-thief?
Bob
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:32:26 +1000, atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.com
Projecting again Bobby ?
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:07:06 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Oh dear....... poor old 'Boogle Bob' *still* has his man boobs in a
twist over me!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
I wonder if he's ever bothered to look up the word "obsessed" in the
dick and harry?
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:08:46 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.astraweb.com "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
My neighbors thanked me for pruning their Mimosa with the broken
branches for free... One of our local people had already offered to
prune the tree for a price.
I just wanted the wood for smoking. :-)
There is quite a bit of dead wood in many areas in the hill country
along side the roads on public property. The counties don't mind people
cleaning it up for them.
I've no doubt the same situation occurs in Australia...
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:03:06 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
ROFLMAO!!!!!
Obsessed?? Much.
Free is always the winner in a quote :-)
Seems it's quite good in the medicinal stakes as well........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimosa_tenuiflora
Sure does. In Queensland anyways.
'Boogle Bob' must live in a pretty shitty area if he's worried about 'wood
thieves'.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:18:38 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Interesting, thanks!
Not everybody is lucky enough to have "boondocks" available to them...
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:23:53 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Even in 'suburbia' we have large tracts of bush areas that are a 'green
buffer zone'. There's always plenty of wood to be had there.
I have such an area at my back door :-)
Not exactly the boonies, but it'll do for a bush escape :-)
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:25:33 GMT, PeterL2 <...@home.in.brissie
Dave Smith <...@news.newshosting.com:
(snip)
You've been taking lessons for 6 years or more, you took lessons all year
long for the past 12 months, and you *still* fell off the damn horse??!!
You're absolutely useless at horse riding so it's high time you took up
another hobby. Please don't even consider skydiving.
May I suggest crocheting, or knitting??
No sympathy for the busted rib, dude, you got what you deserved for
thinking that you can do something you can't.
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:42:24 -0600, "graham" <...@shaw.ca
"PeterL2" <...@61.9.191.5...
Pull yer head in, you prick!
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:11:47 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"graham" <...@newsfe10.iad:
horse??!!
KMA, wanker.
The truth always hurts.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Bryan <...@gmail.com
On Sep 2, 10:11 am, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
No. The truth SOMETIMES hurts.
>--Bryan
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:34:44 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
IMHO, you're being way too harsh here Peter. I've seen professional
show-jumping riders get thrown from a horse. If something spooks a
horse, they can and do panic (or sometimes they just refuse to jump at
the last minute and slam on brakes - and there goes the rider). And no
matter how much experience the rider has - when that sort of thing
happens sometimes they get thrown...
That's why I'm skeered of horses and just admire them from afar.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:01:12 +1000, atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.com
Abrupt but accurate imho
I've seen professional
but they are much younger and practise for decades to do this
If something spooks a
Admire them up close with bits crumbed and slow cooked in an iron pan
with garlic and baby potatoes and honey carrots
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:07:57 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
atec 7 7 <"atec 77...@hotmail.comseptember.org:
Yeah, to SO always says I'm about as subtle as a kick in the gonads :-)
Life's too short to play namby-pamby with idiots.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:21:17 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell <...@sbcglobal.net
In article <...@newsfe20.iad ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
I was forced to ride the nags for two summers before I was twelve to
build character. Motorcycles have a kill switch, but firing a 45 into a
horse's skull at 25 mph would still mean I'd be seriously injured or
become dead. I had one take off downhill with my baby butt in the
saddle. Trots suck. Gallops are better. That run toward the stable was
the smoothest ride I ever had on a horse. Real Nevada wranglers saved
me.
I'm with you.
leo
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:13:43 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe20.iad:
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, as am I.
I just regard him as a 60yo 'slow learner'.
I've seen it happen too. But then, those riders didn't come onto a food/
cooking group and whine about it.
Yes, I have even seen Olympic competitors get thrown. But then, they are
usually in the mid-late 20's/early 30's.
As a 60yo, he should have more bloody sense.
Don't get me wrong.......... if the guy is going to get out there and do
something like that, more power to him!! But don't come whinging and whining
in here expecting sympathy from everyone if you get hurt doing it.
I've been skydiving since I was 15 years old. I'm 53 now, and with the
injuries that I'm carrying, I have made the decision that my skydiving days
are almost over.
You don't see me in here pissing and moaning about it.
You gotta know when to hold 'em, and you gotta know when to fold 'em.
I couldn't give a rats ass about horses. I used to go out in the North West
of Queensland in the early 80's and shoot shitloads of brumbies, which are
nothing more than pests.
Then there was the stupid bloody woman who decided to bring her 4 legged glue
pot onto a dropzone because she thought it would be 'cute' for everyone to
see her nag, and the bloody thing put a $500 dent in my car because it got
spooked when I landed........ *on* the dropzone, near my car.
But having said that........ I like horses.
There's nothing better than a cubed shoulder of horse slow braised with some
red wine and veges........ ObFood.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:20:57 +0100, "Ophelia" <...@elsinore.me.uk
"PeterL" <...@61.9.191.5...
Yes we have been hearing all about your war years:) We have been here
before:)
Leave him alone. I believe far more of what he says that anything you say!
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:32:30 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"Ophelia" <...@mid.individual.net:
*Really*??? You seem so sure of that, then that must mean you have some
proof to back up your bullshit claims. Please show it.
To not do so will show everyone what you are.
GFY.
I am entitled to my opinion, exzactly the same as you have just done.
So, in your tiny little mind, you can have your say on anything, about
anyone, but no-one else can, right?
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:49:19 +0100, "Ophelia" <...@elsinore.me.uk
"PeterL" <...@61.9.191.5...
Your memory is short. We have been here before and you shut up then! Let us
not embarrass you again. I am sure there are those here who remember the
last time.
I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on you.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:42:19 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"Ophelia" <...@mid.individual.net:
(READ: I'm pissing in the wind and hoping that bullshit will baffle brains.)
You're full of shit, Ofeelya, and an out and out liar to boot.
Not that I'd expect anything else from a stinking pom.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:25:13 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
<snip
<snip
I'd hardly call it whining. And if you read the OP he did state that he
was considering giving up riding lessons.
<snip
You can have my share.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:44:45 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe21.iad:
C'mon!!! It was a "give me sympathy because I've been stupid" post!!
And he had everyone falling all over themselves ooooooing and ahhhhing.
If he's expecting sympathy from me, I'll tell him to look in the dictionary
between 'shit' and 'syphllis'. That's where you find sympathy.
Maybe he should have a look over the 'Darwin Awards'.
http://www.darwinawards.com/
Which I did.
That's why I called him a 'slow learner'.
60yo and trying to act like a 30yo!!
Don't knock it till you try it!! It's very lean meat.
It'd make nice biltong too :-)
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:12:05 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
One thing I've noticed about this group is that if somebody gets ill
or has an accident and hurts themselves, 99% of the other posters are
sympathetic (even if they usually fight like cat and dog with the injured
party otherwise). Didn't your Mom ever tell you it's generally not good
form to 'kick somebody when they're down'? Oh well, nevermind.
I'll still pass thanks, which is my prerogative, surely?
BTW, IMHO, the best beef biltong has a strip of fat on it. I like the fat
too (sosueme).
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:03:24 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@cnitlabac.not:
Genuine accidents/illnesses, I'd be doing the same.
Stupid accidents........ NO.
There's no way in hell I'd give sympathy to 'Boogle Bob' when he sticks
his teeny weeny in the toaster to warm it up on a winters morn, and gets
3rd degree burns.
So no.......... 60yo Dave, trying to act like a 30yo, gets no sympathy
from me.
I don't. Unlike *many* people on this newsgroup.
Case in point......... there have been two people that I never 'got on
with' in the last 5 or so years that up and died. (Thats all I care to
remember anyways, the rest never caused a blip on my radar.)
When they died, I did not say a word.
My name came up in 'conversation' on both occasions in the threads about
their demise ...... my reply then, as it is always..... if you can't say
something good about the person who has died, STFU and say nothing at all.
Whatever.
It surely is.
But, like skydiving, you have to try it at least once in your life to form
an honest opinion.
And, IIRC, you have.
You forget, I'm not 'Merikan. Us Aussies don't live in a litigious
society.
But that aside, I can't ever recall having biltong with a strip of fat in
it.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:03:31 +0100, "Ophelia" <...@elsinore.me.uk
Good post, Cathy!
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:04:31 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
"Ophelia" <...@mid.individual.net:
I used to wonder why there was a crab named after you. Not anymore.
--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:38:28 -0400, "cybercat" <...@yahoo.com
"ChattyCathy" <...@cnitlabac.not...
There's "raised by wolves" and then there's Peter Lucas, raised by nasty
halfwit wolves.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:26:57 -0400, Bob Muncie <...@gmail.com
Not trying to tweak anyone, but the only wolf like animal in Australia I
believe is a Dingo. Quite a but different than a European or North
American wolf.
Not an expert.
Bob
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:27:57 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
Bob Muncie replied to cybertwat:
Peter's attitude comes from his decades-past days as a soldier. Although he
washed out of military service due to his physical frailty after only a very
short time (two years, wasn't it? And never saw combat at all?), he still
likes to pretend he's a "digger," and stoicism is part of the digger
persona.
Bob
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:32 GMT, notbob <...@nothome.com
On 2009-09-02, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
It's a good idea. My brother broke his same collar bone (clavicle)
twice racing motocross. Doc said if you break it again, I may not be
able to mend it at all, next time. That bone is not a thick heavy
bone like a leg bone (tibia), but flat and thin (relatively). Maybe
they have better medical options, now. Ask one of our nurses. ;)
nb
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:11:26 -0600, Christine Dabney <...@ix.netcom.com
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:32 GMT, notbob <...@nothome.com
I only take care of babies.. Ask Goomba, she does big people. ;)
Christine
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:49:47 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
notbob <...@myvai2.notbob.com:
http://www.homemademedicine.com/home-remedies-bone-fracture.html
"NOTE: Bone mass increases continually throughout life until approximately
30-40 years of age. In later years, net bone loss occurs when bone
resorption exceeds the amount of bone formed. In fact, bones lose their
density continuously each year after the age of 30 in both men and women."
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2009/01/19/45079.aspx
"New understanding on how aging causes broken bones to heal slowly
19. January 2009 02:39
Researchers have unraveled crucial details of how aging causes broken
bones to heal slowly, or not at all, according to study results published
today in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research.
The research team also successfully conducted preclinical tests on a
potential new class of treatments designed to "rescue" healing capability
lost to aging.
In the worst cases, an age-related delay in healing keeps the two sides of
a fractured bone from ever rejoining (non-union), leaving many confined to
wheelchairs, unable to walk or to live independently."
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:58:24 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Resistance exercise can aid in increasing bone density, even in the
elderly:
<http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/features/exercise-for-osteoporosis
I see no reason it could not help with speeding the healing of broken
bones, if done under proper guidance.
Weightlifting rulz.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:59:46 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
While I disagree with "there's nothing better," I will say that horse meat
is some very good stuff. I know many people whose upbringing makes them
opposed to it, but I don't think eating horse is any more immoral than
eating pork.
Bob
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:22:03 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@news.astraweb.com "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
How about cat or dog?
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:19:34 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
I don't think it's immoral to eat cat or dog either, though I can't believe
that cat would taste very good. The first time I went to Korea, I went past
a dog farm every day on my transit to and from work. The dogs were treated
humanely, as far as I could tell. (I think it's immoral to *mistreat* any
animals in the care of humans.)
Bob
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:39:32 -0500, Becca <...@hal-pc.org
My cat has mixed emotions after reading this.
Becca
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:26:04 GMT, "James Silverton" <...@verizon.not
Bob wrote on Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:19:34 -0700:
I don't know about immoral but I am dubious about eating any animal that
shows affection to humans. I don't like horses much but they seem
friendly and I don't knowingly eat horse. I remember being shocked on my
first visit to France when I saw a store labelled "Boucherie de Cheval".
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:24:23 -0700, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." <...@isp.com
Back in the 1960's iirc the first American edition of the Larusse
Gastronomic came with a entry on the cooking and eating of cats, rats
and horses.
Due to the outrage expressed? the entry on cats was suppressed in later
American editions.
And its not even like there was a recipe! Unlike the volume on American
folk magic by Henry Hyatt that includes numerous recipes for boiling a
black cat, but rather the Larusse merely mentioned that in times of
trouble, famine, siege etc. cats were eaten.
Here is the complete entry from the 1961 Larusse:
"CAT: Chat - Domestic can whose edible meat has a flavor halfway between
that of rabbit and that of hare.
Cat's meat has often been eaten in periods of famine or of siege.
Legend has it that in the cook - shops the cat is often used in the
making of rabbit fricassees. Examination of the bones would easily
enable one, in case of doubt, to distinguish between the one animal and
the other."
During the siege of Leningrad (W.W.II) they were boiling and eating
leather shoes as well as library paste (made from wheat flour iirc.)
I remember one time i was talking to a friend of mine, big strapping
young man, very muscular.
He was wearing a "tank top" and had his elbow and forearm resting on a
table we were at in an out door restaurant.
Suddenly, just out of nowhere, i had this image of a nice thick slice of
his upper arm, 'deltoid' muscle? simmering in a hot pan with butter,
garlic and shallots. For a brief instant i actually savored the idea,
thinking to myself that it would probly be quite tasty.
Really rather shocked me, especially the intensity of the image, and my
instinctual appreciation of it, it as as if, for a brief moment, it was
the most natural thing in the world to be considering butchering my
friends arm and dining on it, tasty i bet, he was such a big, strong,
healthy lad:)
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Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:47:10 -0400, Dave Smith <...@sympatico.ca
Cows, goats, sheep and rabbits are also very friendly toward humans.
Pigs can make great pets.
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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:29:32 -0400, "Dora" <...@yahoo.com
Horse meat was sold in England during WWII, James.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:48:32 GMT, "James Silverton" <...@verizon.not
Dora wrote on Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:29:32 -0400:
Hell, my wife's boss used to eat horse served by his wife in California
in the late 50s. They may have picked up the habit in Britain but I
believe it was actually sold as pet food.
I was brought up in Britain and I can definitely state that I never saw
horse meat on sale during the war. There were some other unlikely and
unsuccessful things like whale. I know they eat it in Norway and I
actually tried it it there before I started having conscientious
scruples. It tasted like the pigs fed on fishmeal that were another
unsuccessful British wartime experiment.
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:05:52 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
It's a protein source in some countries...... same as whale meat.
And whilst in those countries, you have to do as the locals do :-)
Fortunately, we have an abundance of cows in Oz ;-)
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:59:00 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
I'm surprised y'all don't farm and export more natives, such as
kangaroos! They are your version of white tail deer that tend to
overpopulate rural areas around here. <g--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:06:08 -0600, "graham" <...@shaw.ca
"Omelet" <...@news-wc.giganews.com...
They did, mixed in with ground beef 'til they got caught out!
Graham
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:29:28 -0500, Andy <...@b.c
Omelet said...
In Oz if you say "please pass the 'dead horse'" they'll pass you the
ketchup.
I don't know if that's true everywhere down under.
Andy
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I'm no longer a danger to society.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:23:41 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Sweet! IMHO they are no different than our deer. The fascinating thing
about Australian marsupials are the niches they fill that are filled in
other countries by other animals. The only American marsupial is the
opossum.
Looks edible to me. ;-d So, does it taste like 'roo, chicken, beef or
emu? <lol--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:57:29 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
We have possums (bloody pests that they are!!) and bandicoots.
But we don't eat either!!
You should have seen the look on the kids faces the first time I gave them
Kanga Bangers and told them what it was!!
http://www.macromeats.com/Products/Products1.aspx
"You killed Skippy??!!"
It's like a very mild beef, which is why most of the cuts are
marinated.... to give it some sort of flavour.
It's also *very* lean, so searing it and having it medium rare at the
most, is the only way to eat it.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:56:41 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Possums are ugly creatures. Look like giant rats.
<ROFL!
Sounds good. Wish they'd export it!
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:03:35 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
Did I say it was immoral to eat horse meat? Must have missed that post.
FWIW, horse meat just doesn't appeal to me - or cabbage - blech.
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:09:27 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
Sorry, I was generalizing; I didn't mean to refer to any particular person
with that second sentence. What do you dislike about horse meat?
(Also, "I know you said you don't like cabbage, but that's because you
haven't had cabbage the way that *I* make it...") :-)
Bob
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:34:04 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
Bought a couple of (mystery) meat pies from some deli when I was a
teenager. I took a few bites which tasted more than awful to me, so I
was going to chuck 'em. However, my Dad (who has a thing about wasting
food, any food) said he'd have a taste first - and then informed me
that said pies tasted like horse meat pies, and ate them anyway... He
didn't die or even get a stomach ache, but it put me off horse meat for
life.
<snork
Are you sure you're not related to my Dad's side of the family somehow?
He's been trying to get me to eat his 'special' cabbage for decades. I
take a bite or two every now and again to appease him - but nothing
changes; he's been eating my share for every one of those decades...
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Chatty Cathy
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:29:21 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger" <...@die_spammer.biz
What if it *wasn't* horse meat? Horse tastes very much like beef, only a bit
sweeter and chewier. I'm not saying you should seek it out, but you might
not have actually eaten horse meat. If you happen to run across something
that you *know* is horse meat, then it might be worthwhile to give it a try.
LOL, no, that's just one of the RFC recurring motifs.
Bob
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:01:55 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
No way of proving that it was, I suppose, but I didn't like it -
whatever it was. However, Dad said it "tasted like" horse meat and I
knew he'd eaten it before... Dunno. It's just something that I'm not
keen to try. Oh well, look at it this way - more for you ;-)
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:03:41 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
ChattyCathy <...@newsfe21.iad:
Don't mind 'Boogle Bob'..... he's on his 'high horse' again :-)
Fresh cabbage, cut into chunks, sauteed in a saucepan with lots of butter
and curry powder so that you still have some crunch left in the
cabbage........ YUM!!!
I used to have a Dutch girlfriend, whose Mum taught me to have it that
way.... and the Dutch *are* related to the Boers :-)
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:57:55 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
I've only recently started adding butter to cabbage. It is a whole new
dimension! It's wonderful and was quite a surprise. ;-d
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:28:08 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Try the above method...... with maybe some pan fried chicken.
Then at least we can thank the Dutch for something other than windmills,
little boys with big fingers, and rampant drug use throughout their country.
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:20:25 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Hm, not a bad idea. I'm fixin' to maybe roast a pair of chooks
tomorrow. I can place a few cabbage 8ths in the drip pan. ;-d
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:30:36 +0200, ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
Sacrilege! :P
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:02:20 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@newsfe07.iad ChattyCathy <...@mailinator.com
Ok, why? :-)
They won't come into contact with the birds. They'll be roasted in
chicken drippings and chicken fat, along with whatever I spice the birds
with!
Probably lemon pepper, onion and garlic powder, paprika and whatever
other green herbal strikes my fancy at the time. Maybe Tarragon or Basil
or Thyme, or whatever. <G
Might stick a few carrots and some celery down there with it too.
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Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:50:55 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Cathy has cabbagaphobia :-)
That's a big drip pan!!
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:55:23 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
It's a 16 liter table top roaster. :-)
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"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:09:59 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Hmmmmmmm, you'll have to snap a pic.
'Table top roaster'??
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:47 -0500, Omelet <...@gmail.com
In article <...@61.9.191.5 PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Took a pic some time back when I first bought it. :-)
I seriously consider it to be money (and storage space) well spent. I
use it quite a lot:
<http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet/16QtRoasterOvenAndFirstTestResults
#
Or:
<http://tinyurl.com/mnpoav--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
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On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:28:52 GMT, PeterL <...@brissie.aus
Omelet <...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Wow!! Haven't seen anything like that before, that cooks things quicker
than a stove, except for my bench top convection/FlavourWave type thingy.
A big heating element in the bottom??
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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia
If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?
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