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On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:13 -0700 (PDT), "Jan...@aol.com" <...@aol.com

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aaaBdVMkjPnU

Bloomberg Commentary by Kevin Hassett

June 8 (Bloomberg) -- I’ve finally figured out the Obama economic
strategy. President Barack Obama and his team have been having so much
fun wielding dictatorial power while rescuing “failed” firms, that
they have developed a scheme to gain the same power over every
business. The plan is to enact policies that are so anticompetitive
that every firm needs a bailout.

Once that happens, their new pay czar Kenneth Feinberg can set the
wage for everybody and Rahm Emanuel can stack the boards of all of our
companies with his political cronies.

I know, it sounds like an exaggeration. But look at it this way. If
there were a power ranking of U.S. companies, like the ones compiled
by football writers for National Football League teams, Microsoft
would surely be first or second to Google. But last week, Microsoft
Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer came to Washington to announce
what Microsoft would do if Obama’s multinational tax policy is
enacted.

“It makes U.S. jobs more expensive,” Ballmer said, “We’re better off
taking lots of people and moving them out of the U.S.” If Microsoft,
perhaps our most competitive company, has to abandon the U.S. in order
to continue to thrive, who exactly is going to stay?

At issue is Obama’s policy to end the deferral of multinational
taxation.

The U.S. now has about the highest combined corporate tax rate, second
only to Japan among industrialized countries. That rate is so high
that U.S. firms have an enormous disadvantage versus competitors. The
average corporate tax rate for the major developed countries in the
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in 2008 was
about 27 percent, more than 10 percentage points lower than the U.S.
rate.

Tax Burden

U.S. firms have nonetheless prospered because our tax code allows a
business to set up a subsidiary in a low-tax country. When that
subsidiary earns profits, they are taxed at the rate of that country,
and don’t face U.S. tax until the money is mailed home.

The economically illiterate partisan Democratic view is that this
practice is unpatriotic and bleeds jobs from the U.S. The economic
reality is that American companies use this approach to acquire market
share overseas. The alternative is losing the business to foreign
competitors.

Don’t just take my word for it. A recent paper by Harvard economists
Mihir Desai and C. Fritz Foley and Berkeley economist James Hines and
published in the distinguished American Economic Review, gathered data
on American multinationals to explore the impact of foreign
investments on domestic U.S. activity.

Encourage Overseas Sales

Their conclusion was striking. The authors found that “10 percent
greater foreign capital investment is associated with 2.2 percent
greater domestic investment, and that 10 percent greater foreign
employee compensation is associated with 4 percent greater domestic
employee compensation. Changes in foreign and domestic sales, assets,
and numbers of employees are likewise positively associated; the
evidence also indicates that greater foreign investment is associated
with additional domestic exports and R&D spending.”

So when firms expand their operations abroad, taking advantage of the
lower foreign tax rates, it helps their workers in the U.S. Higher
sales abroad (surprise, surprise) are good for domestic workers.

It is worth noting that this study, which is confirmed by a boatload
of evidence elsewhere, was coauthored by the same James Hines who
recently wrote a sweeping review of international tax policy with
Obama’s top economist, Larry Summers. Summers has to know what the
literature says.

Inexplicable Stance

So the question is, why does Obama advocate a policy that so flies in
the face of everything that economists have learned? How could Obama
possibly say, as he did last month, that he wants “to see our
companies remain the most competitive in the world. But the way to
make sure that happens is not to reward our companies for moving jobs
off our shores or transferring profits to overseas tax havens?”
Further, how could Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner call a practice
that top scholarship has shown increases wages and employment in the
U.S. “indefensible?”

I have to admit I am at a loss. Maybe it is good politics to bash
American corporations, and Obama isn’t really serious about making
this change happen. But if the change is enacted, and domestic
corporate taxes aren’t reduced to offset the big tax hike, the result
will be a flight from the U.S. that rivals in scale the greatest avian
arctic migrations.

If that occurs, the firms that stay in the U.S. will be at such a huge
tax disadvantage that they will absolutely need a “rescue.”

(Kevin Hassett, director of economic-policy studies at the American
Enterprise Institute, is a Bloomberg News columnist. He was an adviser
to Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona in the 2008 presidential
election. The opinions expressed are his own.)
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Jan Eric Orme
"Isn't that stimulating?"



On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:18:53 -0400, Frog Breeches <...@rib.it

The "rate" is high but the exemptions and the total taxed is low.
Microsoft is not concerned about Americans jobs. It has done everything
possible to encourage a plunge of Americans economy to the holy grail of
leveling the global playing field. They are plunging Americans economy
down toward the level of the lowest common denominator.
What we will share in equally is a level of misert not prosperity. The
Global Supplier Side Merchants and Bankers will own the Global
Plantation. Everyone else will toil for their wealth ande power.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Billy The Kid <...@excite.com

On Jun 9, 10:12 am, "Jan...@aol.com" <...@aol.com
Actually he didn't "write" anything. He just reposted the anti-
American blather of another of his loser ilk.

It continues to amaze sane, patriotic Americans why these Republican
losers simply cannot let go and grow up. Post after post, day after
day, they send up the same message, to wit...

WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH, WE DIDN'T GET OUR WAY!

WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH, OUR PARTY DIDN'T WIN THE ELECTION!

WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH, HEAR THE LITTLE LOSER PIGGIES SQUEAL AND SQUEAL
AND SQUEAL. SNIFF... WAIL... BLUBBER....

THE PLANS OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, THE DULY-ELECTED PRESIDENT OF
THESE UNITED STATES, PROBABLY COULDN'T "STIMULATE" ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR
DEAD AND/OR DYING BODY, MIND AND SOUL JAN. YOU'RE SIMPLY TOO FAR GONE
AND WALLOWING IN THE THROES OF SELF-DESTRUCTION.

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:07:14 -0500, Bob Giddings <...@gmail.com

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:13 -0700 (PDT), "Jan...@aol.com"
<...@aol.com

Humbug "opinion" piece.

Here's a sign of what the man is about, from today's headlines:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a5cfNoaMA.F4

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President Barack Obama urged Congress to toughen rules requiring
lawmakers to finance the cost of spending initiatives and tax
cuts with offsetting savings elsewhere in the government’s
budget.

“We have several imperatives at this difficult moment in our
history,” Obama said today at the White House, citing the
recession and the need for spending on health care, energy and
education. “But we are also called upon to rein in deficits by
addressing these and other challenges in a manner that is
fiscally responsible.”

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This is part of what brought about the surpluses under Clinton.
Now that Republicans have received their well deserved boot in
the ass, it's coming back.

Bob

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:51:57 -0500, Lone Haranguer <...@gmail.com

What a TOTAL ignoramus and addicted Kool Aid drinker Giddings is.
Also he is apparently a victim of Alzheimer's Disease.
******************
Albany Times Union (Albany, NY); Oct 13, 1995;
Byline: ERIC PIANIN AND JOHN E. YANG Washington Post

WASHINGTON The House Budget Committee Thursday combined the major
elements of the Republicans' legislative revolution into a massive,
far-reaching bill intended to balance the budget over seven years, cut
taxes for American families and dramatically change the face of the
federal government.

Even before the House Budget Committee voted 24 to 16 to stitch together
the various bills already approved by other House committees into a
single measure under a process called ``reconciliation,'' the White
House warned that President Clinton will veto the GOP spending cuts .
********************
The REPUBLICANS forced Clinton to balance the budget, as the evidence
clearly shows.
LZ

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:21:05 -0700, "Bruce S" <...@gmail.com

Sure, after giving away several trillion dollars of non-existent government
money - and running up a deficit double that of the entire eight years of
the Bush administration, in just 5 months - 0bama decides it's time to slow
down the spending. Of course, he provides himself the choice of either
cutting spending or raising taxes. Want to bet which choice he makes?

Bruce


On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:11:58 -0500, Bob Giddings <...@gmail.com

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:21:05 -0700, "Bruce S"
<...@gmail.com

No good deed goes unpunished, eh, Bruce?

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:19:11 -0700, "Bruce S" <...@gmail.com

What good deeds would those be? Since taking office 0 has done nothing
good.

He could make me happy by stopping any further spending on the TARP program,
repealing the Stimulus package, cutting about 2 trillion from his current
budget, stopping all his interference in the automobile and banking
businesses, and giving up all his "green" plans for the country's future.
Well, that would be a good start anyway.

Bruce


On 09 Jun 2009 22:08:33 GMT, Eregon <...@Saphira.org

Bob Giddings <...@gmail.com

When that lying crook actually performs a "good deed" we'll be sure to
inform you.

In the meantime, put your emotions aside and stick with documented facts
- such as his lack of any viable proof of US Citizenship much less his
actual Birth Certificate.

--

I used to be an anarchist but had to give it up: _far_ too many rules.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:11:00 -0700, "Nate" <...@nsvpbaemlslp.anmet

<...@q2g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aaaBdVMkjPnU

Bloomberg Commentary by Kevin Hassett

The U.S. now has about the highest combined corporate tax rate, second
only to Japan among industrialized countries. That rate is so high
that U.S. firms have an enormous disadvantage versus competitors. The
average corporate tax rate for the major developed countries in the
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in 2008 was
about 27 percent, more than 10 percentage points lower than the U.S.
rate.

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Country Income Tax VAT
Corporate Individual

Argentina 35% 9-35% 21%
Australia 30% 17-45% 10%GST
Austria 2 5% 21%-50% 20%
Belgium 33.99% 25-50% 21%
Brazil 34% 7.5-27.5% 17-25%
Bulgaria 10% 10% 20%
Canada 19.5%(federal) 15-29%(Federal) 5%(gst)
China 25% 5-45% 17%
Cyprus 10% 20-30% 15%
Czech Rep. 20% 15% 19%
Denmark 25% 38-59% 25%

Egypt 20% 10-20% 10%gst
Estonia 21% 20% 18%
Finland 26% 7.0-30.5% 22%
France 33.33% 5.5-40% 19.6%
Germany 30-33%(effective) 14-45% 19%
Gibraltar 2 7% 0-40% -
Greece 25% 0-40% 19%
Hong kong 16.5% 2-17% -
Hungary 16% 18% and 36% 20%
India 30-40% 10-30% 12.5%
Indonesia 28% 5-30% 10%
Ireland 12.5% 20-41% 21.5%
Israel 26% 10-46% 15.5%
Italy 31.4% 23%-43% 20%
Japan 30% 5-50% 5%(consump)
Latvia 15% 23% 21%
Lithuania 20% 15%/20% 19%
Luxemburg 21% 0-38% 15%
Malta 35% 15-35% 18%
Mexico 28% 0-28% 15%
Monaco 33.33% 0% 19.6%
Morocco 35% 0-41.5% 20%
Montenegro 9% 12% 17%
Netherlands 20-25.5% 0-52% 19%
New Zealand 30% 0-39% 12.5%gst
Norway 28% 28-49% 25%
Pakistan 35% 0-25% 15%
Philippines 30% 5-32% 12%
Poland 19% 18%/32% 22%
Portugal 25% 0-42% 20%
Romania 16% 16% 19%
Russia 20% 13% 18%
Saudi Arabia 20% 20% --
Serbia 10% 10-20% 18%
Singapore 18% 3.5%-20% 7% (gst)
Slovakia 19% 19% 19%
Slovenia 21% 16%-41% 20%
South Africa 28% 0-40% 14%
Spain 30% 24-43% 16%
Sweden 26.3% 0-57% 25%
Taiwan 25% 6-40% 5%
Thailand 30% 5-37% 7%
Tunisia 30% 15-35% 18%
Turkey 20% 15-35% 18%
U.K. 28% 0-40% 15%
Ukraine 25% 15% 20%
U.S.A. 15-35% 15-35% -
Vietnam 25% 5-35% 10%
Zambia 35% 0-35% 16%