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Modern Olympics go Roman
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:28:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.net
As the Olympic Games achieved a form of fame in the years by becoming
corrupt. Cheating was not uncommon in the ancient Summer Games .
Athletes used to rub themselves up with oil to protect their skin from
dirt and sunlight. The wrestlers were not allowed to use oil. They
were supposed to dust themselves with a powder. Some wrestlers cheated
by rubbing oil over some part of the body making it slippery for an
opponent to grab. Cheating was punished very severely .
In the ancient Summer Games , there were rules for every game
contested for. Those, who cheated or violated the rules, were
disqualified from the contest. Along with the contestant, the trainer
and the sponsoring city-state were also fined. Cheaters could be
punished by whipping or fines . The money from these fines was used to
construct bronze statues of Zeus . These statues were placed along the
tunnel that leads to the stadium. Each statue's inscription told the
cautionary tale of the offense. The athletes walked past these statues
as a reminder of the importance of obeying the rules.
Recorded incidents of Cheating in ancient Summer Games: The first
incident of actual cheating in the history of the ancient Summer Games
occurred in 388 BC. Eupolus, the boxer of Thessaly bribed three
opponents to take a dive. He was fined with a huge amount of money to
build six bronze statues of Zeus .
Some participants were induced to swap allegiance, often at the risk
of exile from their homelands. Winners of the ancient Summer Games
were known to bring religious favor and glory to their city-states.
For this reason, many city-states tried to bribe athletes to
participate in the games as their representative. The city-state of
Syracuse was as notorious as New York Yankees owner George
Steinbrenner in its quest for free agents that would bring religious
favor and glory. When Syracuse induced sprint champion Astylos to quit
Kroton in southern Italy , his admirers in the hometown tore down his
statue and turned his house into a prison.
Olympic corruption reached the climax during the Roman reign. In 67
AD , Emperor Nero bribed the judges to include poetry reading in the
schedule of the Summer Games as an event. The judges also declared
Nero the chariot champion , despite his not finishing the race.
WI the same themes had encompassed the modern Olympic movement,
athletes changing countries, competing for monetary prizes rather than
the laurel and honor, taking drugs and treatments to improve their
performamce, using illegal methods to defeat opponents? What would the
end result have become? Instead of our bright and shining games, held
every four years at Athens, there would be a circus of bidding for the
right to stage the games, inclusion of "sports" not found in the
ancient games, officials and rules bent to the satisfaction of the
residents of the selected city, great amounts of wealth reaching the
pockets of officials and judges, strange results from either
disqualification or allowing an ineligible athlete to compete.
The Olympic games originally contained one event: the stadion (or
"stade") race, a short sprint measuring between 180 and 240 metres, or
the length of the stadium.
The diaulos, or 2-stade race, was introduced in 724 BC, during the
14th Olympic games. The race was a single lap of the stadium,
approximately 400 metres.
A third foot race, the dolichos, was introduced in 720 BC. Separate
accounts of the race present conflicting evidence as to the actual
length of the dolichos. However, the average stated length of the race
was approximately 18-24 laps, or about three miles (5 km).
The last running event added to the Olympic program was the
hoplitodromos, or "Hoplite race," introduced in 520 BC and
traditionally run as the last race of the day. The runners would run
either a single or double diaulos (approximately 400 or 800 yards) in
full or partial armour, carrying a shield and additionally equipped
either with greaves or a helmet.
Over the years, more events were added: boxing (pygme/pygmachia),
wrestling (pale), pankration (regulated full-contact fighting, similar
to today's mixed martial arts), chariot racing, several other running
events (the diaulos, hippios, dolichos, and hoplitodromos), as well as
a pentathlon, consisting of wrestling, stadion, long jump, javelin
throw and discus throw (the latter three were not separate events).
In the chariot racing event, it was not the rider but the owner of the
chariot and team who was considered to be the competitor, so one man
could win more than one of the top spots.
The winner of an Olympic event was
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Anonymous Wrote:
The original Olympics were a religious rite. Honoring a diety by sports
wouldn't make sense to a Judeo-Christian. The modern Olympics were
intended to promote peaceful competition among nations INSTEAD of having
wars. The original olympics were limited to worshippers of that
cult. Mixing the two would be like mixing pomegranates and tomatoes.
: As the Olympic Games achieved a form of fame in the years by becoming
: corrupt. Cheating was not uncommon in the ancient Summer Games .
: Athletes used to rub themselves up with oil to protect their skin from
: dirt and sunlight. The wrestlers were not allowed to use oil. They
: were supposed to dust themselves with a powder. Some wrestlers cheated
: by rubbing oil over some part of the body making it slippery for an
: opponent to grab. Cheating was punished very severely .
: In the ancient Summer Games , there were rules for every game
: contested for. Those, who cheated or violated the rules, were
: disqualified from the contest. Along with the contestant, the trainer
: and the sponsoring city-state were also fined. Cheaters could be
: punished by whipping or fines . The money from these fines was used to
: construct bronze statues of Zeus . These statues were placed along the
: tunnel that leads to the stadium. Each statue's inscription told the
: cautionary tale of the offense. The athletes walked past these statues
: as a reminder of the importance of obeying the rules.
: Recorded incidents of Cheating in ancient Summer Games: The first
: incident of actual cheating in the history of the ancient Summer Games
: occurred in 388 BC. Eupolus, the boxer of Thessaly bribed three
: opponents to take a dive. He was fined with a huge amount of money to
: build six bronze statues of Zeus .
: Some participants were induced to swap allegiance, often at the risk
: of exile from their homelands. Winners of the ancient Summer Games
: were known to bring religious favor and glory to their city-states.
: For this reason, many city-states tried to bribe athletes to
: participate in the games as their representative. The city-state of
: Syracuse was as notorious as New York Yankees owner George
: Steinbrenner in its quest for free agents that would bring religious
: favor and glory. When Syracuse induced sprint champion Astylos to quit
: Kroton in southern Italy , his admirers in the hometown tore down his
: statue and turned his house into a prison.
: Olympic corruption reached the climax during the Roman reign. In 67
: AD , Emperor Nero bribed the judges to include poetry reading in the
: schedule of the Summer Games as an event. The judges also declared
: Nero the chariot champion , despite his not finishing the race.
: WI the same themes had encompassed the modern Olympic movement,
: athletes changing countries, competing for monetary prizes rather than
: the laurel and honor, taking drugs and treatments to improve their
: performamce, using illegal methods to defeat opponents? What would the
: end result have become? Instead of our bright and shining games, held
: every four years at Athens, there would be a circus of bidding for the
: right to stage the games, inclusion of "sports" not found in the
: ancient games, officials and rules bent to the satisfaction of the
: residents of the selected city, great amounts of wealth reaching the
: pockets of officials and judges, strange results from either
: disqualification or allowing an ineligible athlete to compete.
: The Olympic games originally contained one event: the stadion (or
: "stade") race, a short sprint measuring between 180 and 240 metres, or
: the length of the stadium.
: The diaulos, or 2-stade race, was introduced in 724 BC, during the
: 14th Olympic games. The race was a single lap of the stadium,
: approximately 400 metres.
: A third foot race, the dolichos, was introduced in 720 BC. Separate
: accounts of the race present conflicting evidence as to the actual
: length of the dolichos. However, the average stated length of the race
: was approximately 18-24 laps, or about three miles (5 km).
: The last running event added to the Olympic program was the
: hoplitodromos, or "Hoplite race," introduced in 520 BC and
: traditionally run as the last race of the day. The runners would run
: either a single or double diaulos (approximately 400 or 800 yards) in
: full or partial armour, carrying a shield and additionally equipped
: either with greaves or a helmet.
: Over the years, more events were added: boxing (pygme/pygmachia),
: wrestling (pale), pankration (regulated full-contact fighting, similar
: to today's mixed martial arts), chariot racing, several other running
: events (the diaulos, hippios, dolichos, and hoplitodromos), as well as
: a pentathlon, consisting of wrestling, stadion, long jump, javelin
: throw and discus throw (the latter three were not separate events).
: In the chariot racing event, it was not the rider but the owner of the
: chariot and team who was considered to be the competitor, so one man
: could win more than one of the top spots.
: The winner of an Olympic event was
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:40:06 -0700, "Anthony Buckland" <...@telus.net
"Aaron Kuperman" <...@rs7.loc.gov...
It could, for instance, lead to football players dropping to a
prayerful attitude after scoring a touchdown.
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:37:57 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.net
On Aug 11, 1:40 pm, "Anthony Buckland"
<...@telus.net
When the Baron de Coubertine began the movement that has grown into
the International Olympic Movement he created an institution that
emulated the original Olympic Games as closely as he could, given the
passage of time. Each of the athletes required a testimony as to his
moral character from prominent members of society, the directors of
the International Olympic Movement.. Competitors swore an oath to
practice a healthy and moral life while in training for the Games. The
fields at Athens were purchased and developed by members of the
international assemblage in accordance with the principles as
established by the Baron. Admission into the fields requires
affirmation through the mutual acceptance of the other members of the
International Olympic Movement and an oath of personal conduct in
those fields and during the Games.
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.net
On Aug 11, 3:37 pm, Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.netwrote:
The last try. My original idea was a double blind society that had
retained the "Corinthian" idea of the Victorian Age, that the only
true athlete was an amateur with independent means. A gentleman. The
writer was musing what sort of society would stand for the practices
of doping and cheating.
August 12, 2008
Findings
Let the Games Be Doped
By JOHN TIERNEY
Once upon a time, the lords of the Olympic Games believed that the
only true champion was an amateur, a gentleman hobbyist untainted by
commerce. Today they enforce a different ideal. The winners of the
gold medals are supposed to be natural athletes, untainted by
technology. After enough “scandals,” the amateur myth eventually died
of its own absurdity. The natural myth is still alive in Beijing, but
it’s becoming so far-fetched — and potentially dangerous — that some
scientists and ethicists would like to abandon it, too.
What if we let athletes do whatever they wanted to excel?
Before you dismiss this notion, consider what we’re stuck with today.
The system is ostensibly designed to create a level playing field,
protect athletes’ health and set an example for children, but it fails
on all counts.
The journal Nature, in an editorial in the current issue, complains
that “antidoping authorities have fostered a sporting culture of
suspicion, secrecy and fear” by relying on unscientifically calibrated
tests, like the unreliable test for synthetic testosterone that cost
Floyd Landis his 2006 Tour de France victory. Even if the authorities
manage to correct their tests, they can’t possibly keep up with the
accelerating advances in biology. Some athletes are already
considering new drugs like Aicar and GW1516, which made news recently
when researchers at the Salk Institute used them to quickly turn couch-
potato mice into treadmill champions with new, strong muscles.
“There’s a possibility that athletes in this Olympics will be using
these drugs,” said Ronald Evans, the leader of the team at Salk, who
has been fending off inquiries from athletes about these drugs. He has
advised the antidoping authorities on how to detect these drugs, but
whether they’ll be able do it competently this Olympics is far from
clear.
The authorities will have even less of a chance of catching athletes
who move beyond drugs and hormones to “gene doping” — inserting genes
in their DNA that could increase strength and endurance without
leaving telltale chemicals in the bloodstream.
There’s no proof that this would work, but that won’t stop
competitors. As Science News reported, a track coach in Germany was
caught looking for Repoxygen, an experimental virus used to insert a
gene into DNA.
So what we have now is not a level playing field. The system punishes
some innocent athletes and rewards others with the savvy and the
connections not to get caught. The more that the authorities crack
down on known forms of enhancement, the more incentive athletes have
to experiment with new ones — and to get their advice from black-
market dealers instead of doctors.
If athletes didn’t have to cheat to win, they and society would be
better off, says Bengt Kayser, the director of a sports medicine
institute at the University of Geneva. In a 2005 article in The
Lancet, he and two bioethicists argued that legalizing doping would
“encourage more sensible, informed use of drugs in amateur sport,
leading to an overall decline in the rate of health problems
associated with doping.”
In the British Medical Journal last month, more than 30 scholars
signed a statement supporting an article co-authored by Dr. Kayser
calling the current system a failure that needs to be changed. The
article also criticized the medical authorities for undermining their
credibility with “prophylactic lies” that exaggerate the dangers of
drugs like anabolic steroids based “on scant evidence tainted by a
misguided moralistic motivation to protect sports.”
No one denies that there are risks in taking drugs like anabolic
steroids, and there is wide agreement that minors shouldn’t be allowed
to take them (or other performance drugs). But the popular fear of
steroid use by adults is based in large part on a few sensationalized
cases, like the news articles blaming steroids for the fatal brain
tumor of Lyle Alzado, the former football player.
“You’d be on firmer scientific ground blaming his brain cancer on beer
drinking,” said Norman Fost, a professor of pediatrics and bioethics
at the University of Wisconsin. “The claims of the common fatal or
irreversible harms of anabolic steroids are without any medical
foundation. There’s no reason to think the risk of injury or death is
as high as the risk from simply playing sports like football or
baseball.”
It’s possible, of course, that gene doping or other techniques could
turn out to be much riskier. But is that a reason to ban them? Society
has always allowed explorers and adventurers to take risks in exchange
for glory. The climbers who died on K2 this month ascended it knowing
that one climber dies for every four who scale it.
If elite adult athletes were allowed to push the limits of human
performance in return for glory, they might point the way for lesser
mortals to coax more out of their bodies. If a 50-year-old sprinter
could figure out how to run as fast as her 25-year-old self, that
could be useful to aging weekend warriors — or any aging couch potato.
I’d like to see what would happen if someone started a new anything-
goes competition for athletes over 25. If you have any ideas for how
to run it or what to call it — MaxMatch? UltraSports? Mutant Games? —
submit them at nytimes.com/tierneylab. Maybe fans would object to
these “unnatural” athletes. But maybe not. The fans, after all,
include people with laser-corrected eyes, chemically whitened teeth
and surgically enhanced anatomies. Not to mention the pharmacopeia
coursing through our veins.
We all know the body can be improved. We all know Olympic athletes
have the highest-functioning bodies in the world. They can call
themselves natural, just as they used to call themselves amateurs, but
at some point that claim may seem the most unnatural thing of all.
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Strange Creature <...@yahoo.com
Basic questions: Did any Persian provinces
participate before Alexander? What about
the Ionian city-states after they were conquered
first by Croesus and then by Persia?
Were there any situations in which a conquered
state would not participate?
When did Rome start participating?
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.net
On Aug 11, 5:53 pm, Strange Creature <...@yahoo.comwrote:
It's people. You were supposed to be be free and speak Greek.
You had the bad apples, Nero made poetry a laurel winner and won many
chariot races as owner.
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Strange Creature <...@yahoo.com
On Aug 11, 3:35 pm, Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.netwrote:
So Greek did not have to be the primary language?
(The Romans often spoke Latin.)
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:30:14 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum <...@earthlink.net
On Aug 14, 5:39 pm, Strange Creature <...@yahoo.comwrote:
I seem to feel that the Romans prided themselves on their ability to
speak Greek, and may have felt like the Americans who are just
naturalized, we are better (Greeks) than the Greeks.
This is sort of a tie over to my basic idea, apparently too well
hidden in the POD, that the entire contingent of athletes would be
upper class types, the kind who met at Deauville or crewed on the
King's yacht.
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