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Olympus Product Managers interview via forum Olympus France: Olympus SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
Sorry I don't know if this has been posted, but the site 43rumors.com is shown a 10 point interview.
Translation is so so but is understandable.
Point 5 is interesting for us in this forum.
Regards,
M.
Guarini
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Interesting post!
It's bad english, but according to this interview a nice follow up of the E3 should be expected.
(if I understand correctly) Unfortunately, they did not say when it is coming...
"on the strategy and opportunities for Olympus segment expert / pro.
What is the strategy of Olympus on this segment?
The proposed replacement does one or several innovations never before seen on SLR etc..
As was the case in their time for example the E-1 (anti dust particular), the E-330 (LiveView), etc..
? This replacement benefit he synergy with μ4 / 3 (the image of the E-620 with its stabilization system)?
Ultimately, Olympus could it develop a system or 24×36 Olympus believes he limited to a small sensor?
Olympus believes have a place on the segment expert / pro.
We will continue to provide housing in this segment, with a sensor 4 / 3.
The idea is to offer an innovative package, just like what we did in the past, and we also work to improve aspects such as dynamics or noise.
The sensor size is not discriminating at this point and we have other tracks that simply increasing the number of pixels.
Technological advances in this field show that these sensors will soon be able to deliver phenomenal performance both in terms of noise reduction that improve the dynamic range."
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"Oly will give up on 4/3!"
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I can't even tell if this is good news or not.
I wonder if Olympus is happy with him spilling the beans?
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I wonder if Olympus is happy with him spilling the beans?
I'd say it's mostly water and no beans.
His 4/3 comments can be summarized as "we won't kill the E-x line (yet) and sensors are getting better." No news, really.
Simon
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A nice complement to this info:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=33450424
So as could be expected they keep 4/3 - the 620 did very well - and expect to increase market share through the E-P1 successors.
Am.
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BTW in the French text they also implicitly recognise that µ4/3 lenses are below standard, saying that one must be very careful to improve some feature by firmware, without worsening another.
Am.
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As mentioned in the translation below:
9/" µ4/3 integrate digital lense correction in its bodies (lens body communication).
Does this imply that there will be firmware update for new lenses release or for improving the quality of these corrections?
Informations are coded within the lenses but applied by the body.
It is therefore possible to improve corrections via firmware updates of both bodies and lenses.
Nevertheless we need to remain cautious as improve one particular default (i.e.
CA) can have detrimental side effects with far greater consequences."
I hardly see them abandoning the dSLR line, since 4/3 lenses will remain intrinsically better than µ4/3.
Am.
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Quote: :
> I hardly see them abandoning the dSLR line, since 4/3 lenses will remain intrinsically better than µ4/3.
yes that appears to be an emerging pattern
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ʎǝlıɹ
plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ɟo doʇ uo ǝɹɐ ǝʍ 'ɐılɐɹʇsnɐ uı
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I know at least 10 people in my universe looking for a new DSLR.
Every one of them wants HD video included.
Olympus needs to include HD video as standard on every future DSLR.
It's a must.
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Roberthd12
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> I know at least 10 people in my universe looking for a new DSLR.
Every one of them wants HD video included.
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Olympus needs to include HD video as standard on every future DSLR.
It's a must.
REALLY ?
this conclusion based on what 10 people around you want, that does not make it a general wish
There is no doubt that a lot of current olympus E owners are interested in video as an
added" bonus.
But there are some of us who do not care for that.
The ergonomy of any dslr are not that adapted for videographers
I think it is ALWAYS better when there is a choice .
I think models like the future Exxx and Exx should have video , but that the flaghip Ex should not have it
Harold
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I know at least 10 people in my universe looking for a new DSLR.
Every one of them wants HD video included.
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It's a must.
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> this conclusion based on what 10 people around you want, that does not make it a general wish
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There is no doubt that a lot of current olympus E owners are interested in video as an
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Added" bonus.
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But there are some of us who do not care for that.
The ergonomy of any dslr are not that adapted for videographers
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I think it is ALWAYS better when there is a choice .
I think models like the future Exxx and Exx should have video , but that the flaghip Ex should not have it
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Www.modelmayhem.com/haroldglit
Nonsense.
If Oly wants to keep up they needs hd video in next models, that is for sure.
Everybody else have it so if they dare to call themselves as innovate there is no way to go without video ability.
If it is not in next release we will hear great amount of yells ″Abandon the sinking boat!″.
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Dan Quote: :
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Nonsense.
> If Oly wants to keep up they needs hd video in next models, that is for sure.
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Everybody else have it so if they dare to call themselves as innovate there is no way to go without video ability.
If it is not in next release we will hear great amount of yells ″Abandon the sinking boat!″.
Or get an E-P1.
Is it so difficult to understand?
Am.
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Dan Quote: :
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But there are some of us who do not care for that.
The ergonomy of any dslr are not that adapted for videographers
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> I think it is ALWAYS better when there is a choice .
I think models like the future Exxx and Exx should have video , but that the flaghip Ex should not have it
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Hear hear!
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Nonsense.
> If Oly wants to keep up they needs hd video in next models, that is for sure.
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Everybody else have it so if they dare to call themselves as innovate there is no way to go without video ability.
If it is not in next release we will hear great amount of yells ″Abandon the sinking boat!″.
Nonsense +!
Pro photographers are not solely news journalists.
Keep the E-x flagship an optimized *photographic* tool.
Don't introduce delicate tech in a tough pro tool when not needed, that will simply increase cost and vulnerability.
A pro tool is per se a dedicated tool, in this case a photographic one.
For news, holiday and wedding videos the E-xx will be good enough anyway.
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Erik Aaseth
http://www.pbase.com/eaaseth
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But the new E-x MUST have video.
Especially if they are going to go mirrorless with it, which is a possibility.
Every Canon and Nikon body in the future will have this, and there are HUGE money making opportunities possible when you can do video with nice lenses and shallow depth of focus.
People are shooting commercials, videos, and even some short movies with them now.
As a wedding photographer I really need it in my camera.
The ability to shoot video and take pictures at the same time would be marketing gold for me.
The Canon 7D is really appealing to me because it is so flexibile and offers you with a lot of money making opportunities, and it's frustrating because I know good and well Olympus could provide this if they choose to do so.
The pioneered this stuff!
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Will have superb image quality judging by how well they nailed the E-1 and E-5.
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers idiots, of which there are
so many say, Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs. Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life.
Its
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest.
Thats what
makes a good photograph.'
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I don't understand what you mean by them having 'nailed the E1 and E5'.
Or do you mean the EP-1?
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Assuming this is correct (both authentic and translated properly), this is wonderful news!
"Olympus believes have a place on the segment expert / pro.
We will continue to provide housing in this segment, with a sensor 4 / 3"
Cheers
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--Wyatt
http://photos.digitalcave.ca
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It is correct and translated properly
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Well that is definitely great news then.
I don't care *when* E-X comes out, I just care that it will be here sometime.
I am perfectly happy with my 520 for the moment, but do not want to buy more expensive glass until I know my investment is secure into the future.
This is a great indication that it is.
Cheers
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--Wyatt
http://photos.digitalcave.ca
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Very promising news.
Very promising. Are we all still marking our calendars for October 31st?
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Neil
Nanaimo Canada
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The optical component of the 4/3 system is second to none, so abandoning it for a different sensor size system makes no sense.
(I do not expect Olympus to ever offer a 135 sensor system.
It would be more sensible to build a medium format system!)
They obviously recognise that the "too small" sensor will prove to be perfectly adequate for almost all uses fairly soon.
Once the technological advances allow 4/3 to catch up to 135 we will have bigger, heavier, more expensive, 135-based systems with inadequate lenses trying to compete with their APS-C lines as well as 4/3.
"Full frame" is a doomed format, longer term.
Also, if micro 4/3 lens quality does not improve it may indicate that "full 4/3" size lenses are the practical lower size limit for current optical technology.
Olympus may actually know what they're doing.
:O
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Boggis the Quote: :
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Also, if micro 4/3 lens quality does not improve it may indicate that "full 4/3" size lenses are the practical lower size limit for current optical technology.
Olympus may actually know what they're doing.
:O
As said above I don't think that telecentricity can be relaxed without problems.
If Oly want to keep up the tradition of optical excellency they will have to keep up the 4/3 line, otherwise the predicted sensors' improvement would be useless.
So IMHO they will keep producing both the best and the smallest.
More not less choice.
After all they said that the 620 sold well, notwithstanding heavy competition.
Am.
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Q: The Micro 4/3, whose mirrorless concept has created a big interest, appears as a future standard for which almost all the rest needs to be eventually invented/made.
How would you imagine the development of the Pen series?
At which speed/rythm?
A: The development of Olympus Pen series is a priority and new bodies and lenses will arrive very soon.
Olympus understands well of taking advantage of its leading position.
It should be well understood that E-P1 is the first Olympus Pen.
As such, it takes the first steps to a coming series.
Other (m4/3) bodies will follow to form a true m4/3 range with some products oriented towards the consumers and others towards high-end professionals.
They also said:
No plan for video in coming DSLRs
No to FF
No information on faster than f2 primes
No information on the 100mm Macro
A least another pro DSLR will be released
I see their big devotion on the m4/3.
I don't know what will happen to the regular 4/3rds.
I think they will probably slow down the development of 4/3 products.
I don't see the discontinuation of the line in the near future either.
But I don't really worry that much.
Future is always changing.
I hope it helps.
Best Regards,
Tony
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> A: The development of Olympus Pen series is a priority and new bodies and lenses will arrive very soon.
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Other (m4/3) bodies will follow to form a true m4/3 range with some products oriented towards the consumers and others towards high-end professionals.
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A least another pro DSLR will be released
Wow, that's pretty exciting news.
Something to look foward to.
Too bad there wasn't any info on 4/3 lenses.
Thanks, Tony.
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Tony
If they don't plan on video in their upcoming DSLRs, it's refreshingly honest to say so but probably unwise.
"We are looking into it" would at least be a sop for those of us who are looking forward to having a choice of video and stills in one body.
For me, it probably will be a defining point if Oly does not offer a DSLR with video in the coming year.
I want to get away from tape-drive video and I'd like an all-in-one solution.
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Barry
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Well, maybe because video is already on m4/3 and it's typical Oly marketing decisions!
Want weather sealed body forget E30 and buy the E3, like to have the video then m4/3 is there!
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From the original Olympus comments:
>La question de la vidéo dans *nos prochains reflex* est donc *à létude* sans que lon puisse affirmer quoi que ce soit à ce jour.
My rough translation:
/The question of video in *our next SLR* is thus *under study* without being able to affirm anything yet./
That sounds very different from saying "no video in 4/3 SLRs"!
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"à létude"
Very good!
That's what I like to hear.
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Barry
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What an unbelievably boneheaded move if that's true.
Every camera will have it soon.
I can't believe Olympus is going in that direction after pioneering live view.
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They didn't say they weren't including video.
Somebody read something into the answer that wasn't there.
Video will definitely be in the next model.
2.
Competition precisely generalizes the video in its SLR, Olympus will he implement this feature in future SLR?
Olympus priority is to design for SLR photography.
Olympus has yet to listen to consumers and what its competitors can offer.
It is for this reason that we have incorporated HD video in the Olympus E-P1 PEN.
The question of the next video in our reflex is to study without that one can say anything to date.
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> They didn't say they weren't including video.
Somebody read something into the answer that wasn't there.
Totally!
>Video will definitely be in the next model.
43rumors translated the comment as
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The question of the next video in our reflex is to study without that one can say anything to date.
but it sounds even better when translated by a human who knows some French and is a native speaker of English (me):
"The question of video in our *next* SLR is thus under study ..."
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Smaller lenses, better in low light, more telephoto reach: choose any TWO.
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1/ 2009 is an important year for Olympus with the release of its first micro 4/3 camera, the E-P1 and the E-620.
Did these models sales conform to the company objectives especially considering the current crisis and a very stiff competition in this market?
The E-P1 is seeing a very good initial response such that Olympus France does have suply problems.
Indeed there is a strong demand in all countries.
Olympus was slightly taken by surprise by the E-P1 success that has attracted customers from outside Olympus usual pool of customers, from DSLR owners looking for a back up camera or compact owners looking for better IQ.
The E620 has been very succesful despite very stiff competition.
Moreover there has been very positive feedbacks concerning the E-30
2/ Competing brands are proposing Video in their DLSR, does Olympus intend to propose this functionality in its future DSLR.
Olympus priority is to design bodies for photography.
Nevertheless, Olympus is listening to its customers and watching closely its competitors.
It is the reason HD video has been implemented in the E-P1.
The implementation of HD video in future DSLR is being studied but we cannot say anything at the moment.
3/ Will you develop arts filters further?
Olympus does consider these filters as an important part of the photographic experience.
Filter such as B&W and Pin Hole have been very well recieved.
So yes it is possible to imagine an increasing number of filters.
New filters such as fisheye and « pencils »have been implemented in the new µ7010.
4/ The E-600 has been annonced on various reputable website (it is even possible to preorder it) but it is absent of official Olympus websites.
Does this body replace the E-520 or 450 or 620?
The E-600 does exist indeed.
However this model is not part of Olympus line up.
It has been developed for some specific distribution channels.
5/ With the release of the Canon 7D and Sony Alpha 850, numerous forum members are wary of Olympus comitment in the advanced amateur/professional segment.
What is Olympus strategy in this segment?
Will the next flagship propose innovations as did the E-1 (dust buster), E 330 (live view) etc
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Will it include shared technology with µ4/3 (as the E-620 with in IBIS) ?
Does Olympus feels limitated by its sensor size and plan to develop a Full Frame system?
Olympus is commited to the AA/pro segment.
We will therefore continue to develop pro bodies with a 4/3 sensor.
The idea is to carry on proposing innovation in our flagship models.
We are also working at improving aspects such as dynamic range and noise performances.
Sensor size is not an issue with these and we are following other avenues than increasing pixel count.
Technological advances in sensor technology indicate that our sensors will soon provide phenomenal performances in both noise performances and dynamic range.
Need to go out for dinner so don't know when the other half will come.
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Thanks for the much better translation:
"Olympus is commited to the AA/pro segment.
We will therefore continue to develop pro bodies with a 4/3 sensor.
The idea is to carry on proposing innovation in our flagship models.
We are also working at improving aspects such as dynamic range and noise performances.
Sensor size is not an issue with these and we are following other avenues than increasing pixel count.
Technological advances in sensor technology indicate that our sensors will soon provide phenomenal performances in both noise performances and dynamic range".
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John Krumm
Juneau, AK
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6/ Although there are a good number of 4+3 lenses, a fair number of Forum members would like some fast primes (faster than f/2) especially portrait primes.
Interest is for the possibility of achieving thinner DOF at the expense of telecentricity if necessary.
Why Olympus refuse at this moment to propose such lense?
Can we expect a change of policy in this regard?
In 5 years Olympus has developed and release more than 20 lenses, a unique performance in this industry.
Olympus lenses are varied and of high quality.
We do not have information about the release of fast fixed focal lenses.
We are listening to our customers and will inform Olympus of interest in this type of lenses.
7/ A large proportion of Olympus France forum members are enjoying macro photography and are waiting the 100mm Macro lenses.
This lense has been on Olympus roadmap for a good number of years.
Can you confirm its release in 2010 ?
Will it be during the first or second semestre ?
What maximum aperture, SWD?
Olympus France does not have information regarding this lense.
8/ Micro 4/3 and its mirrorless concept is generating a lot of interest.
It looks like a standard where everything is still to be invented.
How do you imagine the development of the Pen line?
Release cycle etc
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The Olympus Pen line development is a priority and new bodies and lenses will arrive very soon.
Olympus intend to keep its lead in this market.
It is necessary to understand that the E-P1 is the first model.
As such it represents the basis on which the entire line will develop.
Other bodies will appear for both the entry level and professional customers.
9/ µ4/3 integrate digital lense correction in its bodies (lens body communication).
Does this imply that there will be firmware update for new lenses release or for improving the quality of these corrections?
Informations are coded within the lenses but applied by the body.
It is therefore possible to improve corrections via firmware updates of both bodies and lenses.
Nevertheless we need to remain cautious as improve one particular default (i.e.
CA) can have detrimental side effects with far greater consequences.
10/ To conclude we would like to discuss a request of some of our readers.
Olympus propose an OM to 4/3 or µ4/3 adaptor.
User do regret the lack of focus confirmation on these adapters.
Moreover with the size of the OM to µ4/3 adaptor why there hasnt been a system of motorisation included.
In fact it would be useless to integrate a motor as the OM objectives are not.
(personal remark here, I think most of users thought about automatic aperture control)
As for the AF confirm Olympus has chosen to develop the live x10 solution for accurate manual focusing and for portraits the face recognition function does work with legacy lenses.
Thats all folks.
A big thank you to the admin/moderators of the Olympus France Forum to have organised this interview at The Salon de la Photographie de Paris.
A wide range of questions suggestions have been given to the two participants (Marketing Manager and DSLR line product chief).
They did say they would transmit those ;)
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Thanks very much Travel_G
Now is much much better.
Best regards,
M.
Guarini
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Thanks very much Travel_G
Now is much much better.
Best regards,
M.
Guarini
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"Technological advances in this field show that these sensors will soon be able to deliver phenomenal performance both in terms of noise reduction that improve the dynamic range."
Assuming the above happens to the extent implied, the noise/dynamic range advantage of a large sensor with large pixels may become vanishingly small in terms of practical photography.
And assuming that happens, FF systems will become less relevant, and possibly obsolete.
I will sit tight with my high grade Zuiko lenses and see what happens.
My E3 will eventually be retired to a shelf alongside my OM10, but for now it's good enough.
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Kiwi Scribe
http://www.markroberts.co.nz/
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Kiwi Quote: :
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"Technological advances in this field show that these sensors will soon be able to deliver phenomenal performance both in terms of noise reduction that improve the dynamic range."
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Assuming the above happens to the extent implied, the noise/dynamic range advantage of a large sensor with large pixels may become vanishingly small in terms of practical photography.
And assuming that happens, FF systems will become less relevant, and possibly obsolete.
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I will sit tight with my high grade Zuiko lenses and see what happens.
My E3 will eventually be retired to a shelf alongside my OM10, but for now it's good enough.
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I assume this points to either to a new sensor and/or new fast processor and high frame rate, so that a HDR PhotoAcute-type of algorithm could be implemented.
With the latter you can /double/ the resolution, clean noise beautifully and extend DR /with no need to increase the size of the sensor/.
There is just the need for an excellent lineup of lenses to exploit that, but they are already there.
So long live to 4/3.
The bad side of it is that 4/3 cameras will probably become more expensive with the upturn, but at least there won't be any loss in investment, as some were beginning to fear.
Am.
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> I assume this points to either to a new sensor and/or new fast processor and high frame rate, so that a HDR PhotoAcute-type of algorithm could be implemented.
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With the latter you can /double/ the resolution, clean noise beautifully and extend DR /with no need to increase the size of the sensor/.
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There is just the need for an excellent lineup of lenses to exploit that, but they are already there.
So long live to 4/3.
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That would require a mega-processor with a huge buffer.
I wonder if it's possible just as yet (but then, Canon's dual processing is no slouch either).
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I wonder if it's possible just as yet (but then, Canon's dual processing is no slouch either).
43rumors also mentioned Fuji EXR technology as a candidate for the new sensor.
So it /could/ be an improvement in both.
In the French interview they also mentioned increasing the number of filters.
So an improvement in processing speed would benefit them too.
Limited HDR in camera, based on merging two shots, is already being sold, so I expect Oly to do better.
Am.
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Steen
dotweb.dk
http://www.ukphotosafari.org/join-the-ukpsg/
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Dito
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Ludwig Wittgenstein;
British philosopher born in Austria;
A major influence on logic and logical positivism (1889-1951):
What can be said at all can be said clearly;
And whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent
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Considering the poor job a well known rumours site did with theirs I felt it was necessary to convey as clearly as possible what was said.
That way you have a chance to read between the line.
Having a good fun doing exactly this over in the french forum.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/guillaumeserandour/
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Wow, actual statements from Olympus.
That's a change of pace.
Something new and revolutionary on the E3 replacement...
Wonder what that could be?
Interesting remark about the E600.
For selected markets.
I still think they're getting rid of existing body parts at a cut rate, as a redesigned 620 style body is on the way.
The comments on sensor technology are spot on.
DR, please. And more.
And more. Extended DR with Olympus color - that's tasty.
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Interesting remark about the E600.
For selected markets.
I still think they're getting rid of existing body parts at a cut rate, as a redesigned 620 style body is on the way.
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Tune into the QVC channel to get your very own E-600 we only have 18 of these wonderful Olympus cameras left, at this low price, get your card ready and call our operators are ready to take your order....
The cut down model is meant to give the disscounters more room to offer "fantastic" deals.
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Bob
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The e3 successor will have a mirrorless 4/3 body.
DR up to 12 stops.
Hi ISO max 51200.
With multi aspect ratio selection.
920k LCD. digital horizon level.
this info comes from one of the employees working in the assembly contracted by japan oly.
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If they were to use the Trine Type Technology (3T) then it would have to be a mirrorless design to accommodate the splitter prism.
The description in another thread of 27mp could well be 3 sensors of 9mp each.
It would need a very good EVF, in my opinion, though because you cannot guarantee the visibility of the LCD under all conditions for composing, or, manual focussing.
regards,
Mike
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The processing power required for 3-CCD at that resolution is pretty demanding.
I do not know of any system that has been able to exceed 3 frames per second, which would be painfully slow at this point.
While a 3-CCD would be interesting I do not see it as an E-3 replacement.
Olympus needs to produce 7-10 frames per second to compete with the 7D, and if it is going to demand a higher price than the K-7 it has to be faster and better than the K-7.
I would love to see a Fuji Super CCD in the next E-x, but again frame rate would be an issue.
Maybe Fuji has improved the speed, but I have not seen it.
Sports shooters and wildlife'rs are a big market for E-3 as the SHG glass is perfect for them.
I expect Olympus will keep the frame rate higher that what CCD can accomplish.
I have not been real impressed with Panasonic sensors to this point, and hope Olympus has found a more competitive sensor.
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If that little mirror doesn't have to flip and flop you could go faster.
Read between the lines of all of these comments and leaks.
Olympus is on to something and they know it.
I sense a quiet workmanlike confidence.
If you factor in all of the latest news like the flat EVF LCD, the FUJI involvement, mirrorless technology gaining momentum, autofocus of the G series being very fast, you can see it all coming together into something special.
I hope some of these leaks we are getting turn out to be true.
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Read between the lines of all of these comments and leaks.
Olympus is on to something and they know it.
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I sense a quiet workmanlike confidence.
If you factor in all of the latest news like the flat EVF LCD, the FUJI involvement, mirrorless technology gaining momentum, autofocus of the G series being very fast, you can see it all coming together into something special.
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I hope some of these leaks we are getting turn out to be true.
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The mirror doesn't have anything to do with how fast the sensor can clear.
None of the Kodak or Fuji CCD sensors that are close to 10MP can handle more than 3 frames per second.
Kodak has an 8MP CCD that can hit 2.9 frames per second and I think that is the fastest for Kodak.
Several full frame and APS-C/APS-H bodies can move 7-10 frames per second even with a much bigger mirror.
4/3 mirror should be able to get past 10 frames per second without much trouble.
I think the E-xxx line will be the first mirror-less body.
Assuming they go mirror-less with standard 4/3 at all.
You might see a micro4/3 body that has the E-620 features set, but smaller.
Standard 4/3 may never go mirror-less.
While I would like to see the E-x line refined to about the same size as the K-7 I think going much smaller than that makes the SHG glass very unbalanced.
Making a camera body that can operate in sub-zero climates is pointless if the body and buttons are too small to operate with gloves on.
Since the E-x line is an excellent tool for sports/wildlife photographers I would think they would keep the E-x big enough to balance those big lenses and have controls large enough for quick operation.
If you are looking for small/light with top AF and features then the E-xx line is probably where people should look.
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...will continue.
I think is the important point of that interview.
4/3 is not a dying system as many seem to imply from time to time.
The reason of course is good lenses and telecentricity.
I am pretty sure that if the mirror got in the way of more resolution, Oly could make a mirrorless 4/3.
But I am not sure they can make the flagship a professional video cam, as much as they can make it a pro still camera.
We don't know what choice of sensors Oly has at the moment, but we know that they don't consider the 4/3 size or 12 MPx a limitation towards much better IQ.
This is really good news, and a vindication of the system.
And of the investment in lenses.
People should be happy, instead of whining.
I am not sure they understand the subtle logic of Oly.
They are not enemies or bandits after all.
They care.
If by some electronic device they could achieve higher DR and ISO sensitivity, and probably achieving the same or more resolution, would they be so worse off?
Am.
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Photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amalric
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If you can record HD video at 30-60 FPS, you can definitely shoot stills at 10FPS.
They just need a good processor and a good CPU.
Fuji and Kodak are developing this camera, Olympus is.
THey will take the best equipment for the job and make it work well together.
To be honest I'll be perfectly fine with 5fps, but 7 would be nice.
Anything more than that and you might as well be video taping it.
Olympus is going to shock the world.
I really believe that.
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That would be a revolution worth waiting for.
I think I will hang on to my Olympus stuff and see what's coming.
If all of this comes to fruition you could see Olympus jump right to the top.
I've always had a feeling that Olympus knows what the heck they are doing, they just hadn't quite gotten there.
I find it interesting with these comments from Olympus, if you put the dots together it does all make sense.
The Olympus rep saying that sensor technology will make it where noise and dynamic range will no longer be inhibited.
Olympus reps talking about how you could actually focus faster with contrast detection faster than phase(did I say that right).
If they can truly pull it off Olympus will have the last laugh after all.
All of the whining and talk about sensor size will just go away.
I will watch with great interest.
Manny, did you really get this info?
Seems like after all of the silence there are now leaks coming out here and there.
If you did hear this, when can we expect something?
I'm beginning to wonder if this is the news next week.
That would be the shocker of the year if it was.
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That's what i heard.
Crossing my finger, i wish it could be real.
I'm excited lusting after a mirrorless 4/3 body.
The guy did not mention when it will hit the shelf though.
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That would be a revolution worth waiting for.
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I think I will hang on to my Olympus stuff and see what's coming.
If all of this comes to fruition you could see Olympus jump right to the top.
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I've always had a feeling that Olympus knows what the heck they are doing, they just hadn't quite gotten there.
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I find it interesting with these comments from Olympus, if you put the dots together it does all make sense.
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The Olympus rep saying that sensor technology will make it where noise and dynamic range will no longer be inhibited.
Olympus reps talking about how you could actually focus faster with contrast detection faster than phase(did I say that right).
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If they can truly pull it off Olympus will have the last laugh after all.
All of the whining and talk about sensor size will just go away.
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I will watch with great interest.
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Manny, did you really get this info?
Seems like after all of the silence there are now leaks coming out here and there.
If you did hear this, when can we expect something?
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I'm beginning to wonder if this is the news next week.
That would be the shocker of the year if it was.
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Hi Manny,
I hope that you have continued access to this source of information.
At the assembly level we might be able to find out where the EVF component comes from and if it is something new and exciting that might satisfy those who prefer OVFs LOL
Other details that would be fun to know would be if there are any weather seals and the general size in relation to the FT lense family.
A big thanks for passing on what you heard.
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Bob
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Shock and Awe is helpful, But Respect in the PRO market is what Olympus "Needs" imho
How much High end Gear will Olympus sell if they continue to loose shooters to the likes of Nikon?
... Even if they gain new PRO shooters.
and what will happen if those PRO shooters will not be able to use there High End Gear with LARGE PRO company's?
That needs to change too.
Imho
* "Perception".
And sometimes "Perception" is reality.
Even in History ...
Say something long enough , and enough times , by enough people ...
It becomes reality.
And then more PRO gear providers need to support Olympus Gear.
another limiting factor regarding PRO tools.
It "CAN" be done, and Sales Volume will do it.
* Look at what Nikon is doing , now ...
Vs Canon (who would have thought just a few years ago)
The sad thing (for me) is ...
I might not be able to "wait" , PRO stuff ...
Even though I will still keep my e30, 50-200, 1.4, and the 50 f2 for product.
I KNEW it would happen , eventually ...
It makes sense that it will probably happen "after" I buy some D700's ...
LOL
HG
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That's what i heard.
Crossing my finger, i wish it could be real.
I'm excited lusting after a mirrorless 4/3 body.
The guy did not mention when it will hit the shelf though.
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Eyes of Hawaii, Largest non-profit Photography club in Hawaii : http://www.eoh.smugmug.com/
Please feel free to criticize, make suggestions, and edit any of my photos & re-post, to help show me 'the way'.
* I am trying to Elevate the Level of my 'Snap Shots' :)
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I'm sure those D700's are saleable.
All of us Olympus fans who love their innovation, lenses, JPGS, etc are rooting for them to figure it all out.
If they do we won't have to look around.
It will satisfy all of our photographic needs.
I just have a feeling we are on the verge of them doing something great, where the boundaries that held us in are going to be shattered.
It will make the sensor size discussion moot, and will ultimately be a huge advantage for Olympus because they already have great value zooms and lenses.
With a fantastic body to stick them on it would be the ideal system for size/performance.
If you gave people a truth serum nobody would choose to carry a huge full frame body around if you could get the same results with a smaller body, for less money.
I believe that day is going to come, and Oympus's choice to go 4/3 for the perfect marriage of size/performance will pay off finally.
At least that's what I'm hoping!
I don't want to go Nikon...lenses are way overpriced to get the same performance I get out of my zuikos.
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There is an aweful lot of whining in this forum about the whining about lack of E3 replacement.
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http://photographyramblings.blogspot.com/
Neil
Nanaimo Canada
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Quote: :
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That's a change of pace.
Agreed!
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Something new and revolutionary on the E3 replacement...
Wonder what that could be?
So back to wild speculation, inspired in part by my translation of one sentence in the French original at http://forum-olympus-france.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=4119
/"The question of video in our *next* SLR is thus under study ..."/
Speculation: The next high end 4/3 SLR model will have video, and do it right:
# An update of the wide format GH1 sensor, with better DR, higher frame rate and such (as discussed in the interview), supporting 1080p and 720p video at all popular frame rates, and binning down all pixel data rather that discarding two lines out of every three, as the 5D2 etc.
Reportedly do.
# A high quality accessory EVF, bigger and better than that for the EF1, to support the desire of an EVF sometimes for video work in particular.
Yes it can go on the hot shoe: use a flash bracket if you are serious about flash!
There would likely be a mike on a bracket anyway when doing serious video.
So forget pocketability!
The OVF and mirror might still only support the classic 4:3 shape to avoid extra bulk that could hamper high frame rates, but Live View and video modes can use the full sensor width to support 16:9, 3:2 and such.
Raw files could give the full un-cropped sensor image anyway, allowing later shape changing.
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Smaller lenses, better in low light, more telephoto reach: choose any TWO.
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