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Raiden's Realm :: View topic - Microsoft: Windows 7 trumps Vista for battery life
Upgrading a newer machine from Windows Vista to Windows 7 could give power savings when using a battery, according to Microsoft.
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Well, anything is better than Vista, well, save maybe for WinME.
But there's no way in heck that Win7 can beat Linux, especially now that we have powertop, in battery life.
Not by miles.
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I never had any issues with battery life with Vista on my newer laptop but certainly would welcome any improvement with Win7.
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I read recently on Slashdot of users having a lot of issues with Linux and poor battery life due to poor ACPI support, though with a bit of manual tweaking it can be fixed.
Out-of-the-box it seems as though both XP and Win7 have better battery life than Linux due to ACPI.
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Nah, not really. Most of the pro Microsoft busted ACPI issues in regards to power management have been solved, save for the areas where the OEM purposely locks out Linux or makes it a much lower performer with bios hacks.
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Linux did have ACPI problems in the past.
It still does on some newer boards.
Most boards, however, work now without much problem.
Like most things linux, power management can often not be as easy to achieve as on Windows, but when they are achieved they typically give you a superior result to that of Windows.
As LR pointed out, Intel's PowerTop app allows fine-grain control over power management down to controlling kernel processes that eat power.
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On my laptop i ended up getting better battery life in vista than linux by about 20 minutes.
This was about 6 months ago though, i would be curious to see the results in 7 if i had not sold it.
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Yeah, that would have been interesting to see too.
The thing is, I'm still miffed at the fact that some of the OEM's purposely sabotage their bios to either A) make Linux look bad/run bad, or B) not run at all, or marginally at best.
To me that seems a bit hypocritical given that they're supposed to be "OS agnostic" when it comes to hardware.
And yet so many of them bend over nine ways backwards for MS, but won't do more than give a passing nod, if even that, to Linux.
Thankfully Intel, AMD, ATI and a couple others fully support Linux.
Hopefully their successes will spur others to start paying more and better attention to Linux.
And when they do, the whole debate of who's better will be over, cause Linux will win.
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Hey everyone, I have a Gateway MT3707 laptop and I hate Vista.
I'm stuck right now because:
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I don't know if i should just Dual-boot the laptop with XP and keep Vista..
OR
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Find some way of formatting my hard drive, thus removing Vista, and then installing XP all from scratch.
I can't format it at the moment since I can't remove Vista while I'm running the dumb thing.
But I'm a bit hesitant to completely remove Vista, if my XP doesn't work.
I know I need to download the XP drivers for my laptop also.
I was thinking about dual-booting it with XP, then removing the Vista partition but I'm not entirely sure that would work.
So, what I'm asking here is: How could I safely remove Vista and run only XP?
Would my dual-boot, then delete the Vista partition plan work?
Or am I going to have to keep my laptop dual-booted, and be damned with Vista until Windows 7 arrives?
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Quote: : The thing is, I'm still miffed at the fact that some of the OEM's purposely sabotage their bios to either A) make Linux look bad/run bad, or B) not run at all, or marginally at best.
Can you name which OEM's these are, and state instances where they have been caught "sabotaging" their BIOS?
While I believe some OEMS tune aspects of their hardware to run good with Windows (that's what is out there the most), I seriously can't see a deliberate crippling of hardware to defame linux or other such conspiracy.
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Moondog, I take it you didn't hear about the big hoohaa surrounding Foxcon bios not long back:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2292
Essentially they pretended to support Linux, but provided a very broken ACPI and control table that was deep sixing Linux distros.
Upon further probing, they came out and said "we're sorry, but Linux isn't supported".
To which the community replied, "Wait, if it's not supported, then why is it in your bios?" They at first denied it, but the guy who originally broke the story was also a very ingenious bios hacker who had been the one who had decompiled the bios and found the problem, including the incriminating tables.
Foxcon then had to eat crow and fix the issue, since bios had been laid bare for all the world to see.
The interesting thing was, every version of Windows was supported in the bios, each with their own unique table tweaked for their needs, and yet Linux only had one table, and it was so badly mangled that it was amazing that anyone could even get the board to boot with Linux.
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"Badly written" is not the same as intentional sabotage.
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Well, that's just the first in a long series of posts about it, and it gets worse as it goes along and the original bios hacker found more and more stuff.
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Welcome to the site jackthomas!
If I may ask why do you hate Vista?
Im also a bit confused at your comments as why cant you format your drive and ditch Vista if you like?
Just stick the XP disc in the drive and when the screen comes up just delete the Vista partition and format the drive and install XP>
I did it recently on one of my pcs with no issues.
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