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Alternative Medicine vs Orthodox Medicine

The medical profession criticizes alternative medicine for using unproven therapies, which is largely true.

But modern medicine does the same, the difference being that many of their treatments are highly toxic and frequently lead to death or severe injury.

Drugs, for example, kill more than 100,000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. Setting aside the issue of whether drugs and surgery are better or worse than natural remedies, a shocking amount of the medical advice we do receive from doctors is outdated, ineffective and even deadly. The writing is on the wall in such big letters these days that you cannot see the wall anymore.

What's the writing?

That conventional medicine is failing to abide by its prime directive: first, do no harm.

You need only read a national newspaper every day for a week to see the evidence.

The once formidable conventional medicine establishment is starting to cave in on itself from the weight of its own ignorance, greed, and medical mistakes.

It is, regrettably, also doing a lot of harm to its patients and to the American economy. So can alternative medicine be a better choice to make in ones life?

King Quote: : The writing is on the wall in such big letters these days that you cannot see the wall anymore. God damn Puerto Ricans!

Nope. science has shown modern medicine works there is no scientific evidence to support your quack "alternative" medicine. I prefer the third alternative though - preventative maintenance so I don't have to fuck with doctors at all.

Here we go again

King Quote: : So can alternative medicine be a better choice to make in ones life? No

King Quote: : Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. I find it hard to believe that prescription drugs have killed more than 1 million Americans in the last 10 yrs and injured 21 million. If that were true, the cigarette mftrs would be pointing their fingers at pharmaceutical companies, and saying "what about them?"

Sheri Quote: : King Quote: : Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. I find it hard to believe that prescription drugs have killed more than 1 million Americans in the last 10 yrs and injured 21 million. If that were true, the cigarette mftrs would be pointing their fingers at pharmaceutical companies, and saying "what about them?" it's more medical mistakes that lead to serious consequences.

The idea isn't actually inherently whacky and complementary or integrative medicine/treatment == much more reasonable imho

Quote: : Sheri Quote: : King Quote: : Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. I find it hard to believe that prescription drugs have killed more than 1 million Americans in the last 10 yrs and injured 21 million. If that were true, the cigarette mftrs would be pointing their fingers at pharmaceutical companies, and saying "what about them?" it's more medical mistakes that lead to serious consequences.

The idea isn't actually inherently whacky and complementary or integrative medicine/treatment == much more reasonable imho That was just dumb.

King Quote: : The medical profession criticizes alternative medicine for using unproven therapies, which is largely true.

But modern medicine does the same, the difference being that many of their treatments are highly toxic and frequently lead to death or severe injury.

Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. Setting aside the issue of whether drugs and surgery are better or worse than natural remedies, a shocking amount of the medical advice we do receive from doctors is outdated, ineffective and even deadly. The writing is on the wall in such big letters these days that you cannot see the wall anymore.

What's the writing?

That conventional medicine is failing to abide by its prime directive: first, do no harm.

You need only read a national newspaper every day for a week to see the evidence.

The once formidable conventional medicine establishment is starting to cave in on itself from the weight of its own ignorance, greed, and medical mistakes.

It is, regrettably, also doing a lot of harm to its patients and to the American economy. So can alternative medicine be a better choice to make in ones life? It's posts like this that make me NOT want to agree with you. Why can't traditional and alternative methods be used together?

Why does it have to be one side all wrong and the other all right? In the end, man made error is the cause of most medical mistakes and alternative medicine is not any diffrent, it's still practiced by humans, so it never will be perfect either. Truthfully, both sides have a lot to learn from one another and there is NO reason they couldn't work together.

Bee Mice Quote: : King Quote: : The medical profession criticizes alternative medicine for using unproven therapies, which is largely true.

But modern medicine does the same, the difference being that many of their treatments are highly toxic and frequently lead to death or severe injury.

Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. Setting aside the issue of whether drugs and surgery are better or worse than natural remedies, a shocking amount of the medical advice we do receive from doctors is outdated, ineffective and even deadly. The writing is on the wall in such big letters these days that you cannot see the wall anymore.

What's the writing?

That conventional medicine is failing to abide by its prime directive: first, do no harm.

You need only read a national newspaper every day for a week to see the evidence.

The once formidable conventional medicine establishment is starting to cave in on itself from the weight of its own ignorance, greed, and medical mistakes.

It is, regrettably, also doing a lot of harm to its patients and to the American economy. So can alternative medicine be a better choice to make in ones life?

It's posts like this that make me NOT want to agree with you. Why can't traditional and alternative methods be used together?

Why does it have to be one side all wrong and the other all right? In the end, man made error is the cause of most medical mistakes and alternative medicine is not any diffrent, it's still practiced by humans, so it never will be perfect either. Truthfully, both sides have a lot to learn from one another and there is NO reason they couldn't work together. Thats true I agree with that.

Because if I broke a bone Im going straight to the hospital....no BS. I have to say it is man made error with ignorece combind with arrogance.

Because when we look at all the people that have cancer and are dying from it why not look at the progress that alternative theropy have provided?

But no the medical industry says doesnt do that and rather trying to come together on the subject they redicual the system.

Sheri Quote: : King Quote: : Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. I find it hard to believe that prescription drugs have killed more than 1 million Americans in the last 10 yrs and injured 21 million. If that were true, the cigarette mftrs would be pointing their fingers at pharmaceutical companies, and saying "what about them?" There is an article called "DEATH BY MEDICINE" written by Gary Null PhD, Carolyn Dean MD ND, Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD.

It came out in 2003.

You can find it on the web.

Bee Mice Quote: : It's posts like this that make me NOT want to agree with you. Why can't traditional and alternative methods be used together?

Why does it have to be one side all wrong and the other all right? In the end, man made error is the cause of most medical mistakes and alternative medicine is not any diffrent, it's still practiced by humans, so it never will be perfect either. Truthfully, both sides have a lot to learn from one another and there is NO reason they couldn't work together. I agree.

I use a mix of traditional and alternative medicine/treatments.

I prefer alternative stuff (its often cheaper than like dr appts or rx drugs) but is not covered by the insurance so I'm limited to my own budget.

I wish health insurance was more open-minded about alternative options because many times theres less side effects and its actually cheaper for them in the long run than traditional western medicine/pharmaceuticals. also, I've done pilates and yoga and then after getting meningitis and having my spine torn during a lumbar puncture (major medical error!) I was put back in physical therapy and was surprised that alot of the stuff they were doing with me in PT were actually yoga poses to try and keep my muscles stretched.

Quote: : King Quote: : So can alternative medicine be a better choice to make in ones life?

No "Death by Medicine" by Gary Null, PhD Carolyn Dean, MD, ND Martin Feldman, MD Debora Rasio, MD Dorothy Smith, PhD A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million.

Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million.

Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics.

The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million.

The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million.

The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783, 936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States.

The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699, 697;

The annual cancer death rate, 553, 251.5

King Quote: : "Death by Medicine" by Gary Null, PhD Carolyn Dean, MD, ND Martin Feldman, MD Debora Rasio, MD Dorothy Smith, PhD A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. my friend died last year from a seizure caused by welbutrin. in 1986 the FDA pulled wellbutrin from the market because of the side effect but put it back on the market with warning because it benefited way ore people than it killed...

It's one of those side effects that they warn you about in the ads/commercials but you never know really if you'll be the one it will happen to.

She was alone when it happened, and died.

She was 22 had no history of seizures or any medical problems. I got stevens-johnsons syndrome from trileptal (an anticonvulsant) almost 2 years ago.

Its a reaction that can be fatal if not caught early. 3 months later I got aseptic meningitis caused by Rx NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammitory drugs). 2 months ago I went into heart failure as a result of withdrawal symptoms from cymbalta (an antidepressant I was prescribed for fibromyalgia).

It took them 10 months to get me off the drug because of the severe withdrawal symtoms (I was hospitalized several times while they attempted to get me off it since I was getting cardiac effects) and then several weeks later I went into heart failure after several weeks of tachycardia and irregular heartbeats. cymbalta is also one of the highest suicide risk drugs on the market.

Even before it was FDA approved, 5 study participants commited suicide on cymbalta or during withdrawals from it- including a "healthy volunteer" with no history of depression or suicidal feelings. I am not anti-rx drug...

I'm on several since thats whats most effective to treat certain conditions I have (like things like seizure disorders I'm not comfortable with "alternative therapies" to quit my meds- too many risks) but I do tend to avoid drugs with black box warnings and now research any drug before starting it (I also worked as a pharmacy tech for 4 years so I do know alot about drugs anyway).

But I've spent too much time in the hospital because of complications from Rx meds to just trust anything prescribed to me.

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Sheri Quote: : Quote: : Sheri Quote: : King Quote: : Drugs, for example, kill more than 100, 000 Americans each year and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million. I find it hard to believe that prescription drugs have killed more than 1 million Americans in the last 10 yrs and injured 21 million. If that were true, the cigarette mftrs would be pointing their fingers at pharmaceutical companies, and saying "what about them?" it's more medical mistakes that lead to serious consequences.

The idea isn't actually inherently whacky and complementary or integrative medicine/treatment == much more reasonable imho That was just dumb. which part specifically, feel free to contribute to something valid rather than posting worthless garbage on here.