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WSJ.com Forums :: View topic - Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Only if Obama has no plans to handle the real problems or is unable to handle those problems -- economy, Iraq, Afghanistan.
The issue may be morally important, but it is not a life and death matter.
But then are we a moral nation?
Let us stop deluding ourselves.
If we were moral, we will not have financial meltdown;
It was created by our own people just to speculate and make money and nothing else (and nothing to produce).
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Okay,We have had excessive greed,Now we have excessive need.Lets make a pact,Instead of the GRUNTS getting punished,All the time,Can we punish those who issued the Standing order?
Like it used to be in our Military.Lt.Calley,Vietnam.???
Any one??Semper Fi.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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You did not get my point.
Is it a life and death matter that we should waste our time and energy on?
No, it is not a life and death matter, and hence, even though reprehensible, should be ignored.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Obama should award effective interrogation methods used to save our bacon rather than trying to penalize effectiveness.
GEM
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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We need a Truth Commission more than we need prosecutions.
Liars need to be shamed (and the WSJ should be too ashamed to have a liar like Karl Rove on its pages).
Truths need to be told.
A "taste" for FACTS needs to be cultivated, and DEMANDS for FACTS re-established.
The Bush-Rove-Cheney cabal was uniquely dishonest in American history, uniquely (if accurately) cynical about the gullibility of the masses.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Your question is wrong.
The actual question is very different.
Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over torture?
It was torture and not aggressive interrogation methods.
And the answer is only one: yes.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Did anyone prosecute FDR and Earl Warren for placing Americans of Japanese descent into camps for duration of WW11?
Did Eisenhower prosecute Truman for use of A bombs?
Did Nixon prosecute Johnson for Vietnam?
Of course they did not.
Whatever Bush administration did to keep America safe is fine with this American.
Obama and friends better be careful since next administration will certainly find something objectionable about them.
Tough decisions are made in times of war and we cannot second guess these in Court years later, especially when it is obvious that politics is the driving force.
I did not hear one Democrat or Obama criticize Bush after 9/11.
Let's get real people and think about winning the war on terror or the war on whatever word Obama is using this week.
Paul Gerhardt
Carmel, IN
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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3000 dead people is a fact.
So is Al Qaeda.
So is the gruesome beheading of Nick Berg with a rusty knife.
"World peace", "Moral high ground" are big words abused by liberals.
The fact is, no one knows what they mean.
Worse, liberals believe that Al-Qaeda shares their belief in their imaginary concept of "Moral" and "Peace".
They believe Al-Qaeda is playing this game with rules they created, e.g.
Respect toward Geneva Convention, avoiding non-combatant casualties.
And Al Qaeda has but one goal: our destruction.
Against such enemy, I would rather stand on the real ground than the moral one.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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I have no doubt that torture was committed deliberately, methodically and with full knowledge that what they were devising and practicing was a war crime.
Therefore, let's follow the precedent we set when we prosecuted and punished European and Japanese war criminals.
Torturing prisoners is a war crime, and a criminal should be treated like a criminal, regardless of his/her nationality and station.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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NO!!
Obama should prosecute Bush!!
America is the biggest supporter of Israel, a country that endorses torture, and the USA is just the hypocritical bastion of democracy, to use unlawful practices to protect the law, basically the flawed concept that the ends justify the means, just like the military juntas in Argentina, Chile, Brazil and the rest of South and Central America have done for years under USA military support.
America, the bastion of democracy, don't make me laugh, with a history of segregation, with millions of its own people jailed, because it chooses to spend the tax payers monies in weapon systems rather than education.
What a joke the republican party is, from Nixon to Bush, I would call them the selfish immoral minority and the evangelical fundamentalists, are they on drugs?
America the newest and latest Roman Empire!![/b]
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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I am so sorry: that world is gone.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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erxu, I hope you aren't American, and if you are, you shouldn't be living in America b/c you don't truly appreciate what a fantastic place it is.
The USA stands for so much opportunity - why do you think we have more immigrants than the rest of the world?
Sure, every country is flawed, including us, but to compare the USA w/ dictatorships or military juntas is ridiculous and wrong.
Do you want to imagine what kind of world we'd live in today if it wasn't for the protection that our military has so sacrificially given us??
Let's go back in time with WWII...and even today with the Somali pirates.
Our Navy just handled that last situation.
And as far as Republicans, I'd be careful who you are calling the minority (recall the split in Obama's win - wasn't as much of a "landslide" in the popular vote as people think), and immoral?
Seriously?? Who's out there hailing pornography as freedom, urging the breakdown of family units.
The LEFT.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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Same could be said of 101 things from closing the borders to collapse of the economy.
No-one dies from doing nothing, so do nothing about any problem & chill man.
The law is the law.
Either you uphold it or you watch it fall apart into anarchy.
Ignoring breaches of trust of elected officials will merely guarantee even worse government in the future.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Re: Should the Obama administration prosecute Bush-era officials over aggressive interrogation methods?
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All but the clinically brain-dead have long "got" exactly what's going on and what we're really in the MidEast for.
(Hint for the stupid : It's black, it's wet and you fill your car up with it).
9/11 = inside job.
And Al Qaeda was CIA invented.
http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html
http://www.oilempire.us/qaeda.html
http://polidics.com/cia/how-to-scare-the-[expletive]-out-of-america-and-make-them-do-anything.html
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