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Yahoo! Message Boards - The A Team - * 95% of jobs created were temporary!

<<At least my Marina gives me free ice with a gas fillup .

. .>> Is that for keeping the lobsters cold?

I understand that Bond_Da y is in negotiations for Greg Norman's old boat. See http://home.earthlink.net/~tei_share/ima...

<< At least my Marina gives me free ice with a gas fillup .

. .>> guess who they buy their ice from ? i figger by July we'll charge more for a bag of ice than a gallon of gas !

>> but read in WSJ today how soybean and grain prices on moon is finally working its way to much higher prices in the supermarkets << Got a good case of sticker shock yesterday - been buying 2-stroke motor oil at K-mart for years at $5.99, which is usually a couple of bucks cheaper than anywhere else.

They raised their prices to $8.99 a gallon last week.

*OUCH* At least my Marina gives me free ice with a gas fillup .

. .

I admit this is anecedotal but I had a lot of experience with temporary work (most of it full time) for part of both 03 & 02. First of all, there were several full time permanent positions I could have had, but forgetting that for a moment, I just want to comment on one large company and my experience there. Starbucks has one of their largest plants here and it has been getting bigger and bigger as the years go by.

They also use a fair number of temporary full time workers.

What was interseting was that most of the permanent full time workers I spoke to had, at one time, been temps.

Most had worked as temps a minimum of 3 months before being offered a permanent position, some longer. Interestingly, the main reason for not making them permanent has little to do with benefits.

Rather, it is to make sure they "fit" ...and that they will stay.

Most companies have a probationary period and that last usually about 90 days.

During that period you can get rid of a person without cause.

But there are real problems with having a specific and arbitrary period.

I not only like Starbuck's approach (not my favorite coffee), but I have a feeling it's used by many others.

<we might miss these kinds of things but lower income America surely does not > lower america here.

I am not keeping an exact count, but the cost of my life is basically unch'd.

Phone, mail [via e-mail], travel, clothes and computer stuff is so much cheaper...this makes a big difference to me.

<<cooking oil up over 20% recently >> Started a position in BG yesterday - looks good to me.

<< sure, but what would force the Fed to raise rates would be upward pressure on wages, right?

>> agreed that the wages earned part of the data is far less than 'robust' but read in WSJ today how soybean and grain prices on moon is finally working its way to much higher prices in the supermarkets cooking oil up over 20% recently we might miss these kinds of things but lower income America surely does not watched Glassman (head economist) all pumped up on CNBC this morning how one has to get long alot of stocks right now but his focus was purely on earnings at corporations and how they justify higher stock prices and he emphasized (holding up 2 fingers) how little commodity prices means to our economy lots of conflicts here we all need to balance in our own minds

<< sort of suggests that there is plenty of temp work demand if people looking for fulltime work can land temp jobs in this size this quickly , no ?

>> sure, but what would force the Fed to raise rates would be upward pressure on wages, right?

Average hourly earnigs down and average workweek down suggests continued patience at the Fed, not a rush to raise rates....

I think they'd love to see a full blown recovery with no increase in wage inflation

With total compensation costs so high for fulltime employees , be rest assured that many companies hire people as 'temp workers' with no intention of them being temps by hiring somebody as a temp , they get nothing but but a paycheck they are treated as outside consultants / contractors . it also gives them full flexibility to eject these people if the recovery slows down but most temps want fulltime jobs and if demand for workers increases , many of these temps get fulltime status or leave and go to companies where they CAN get that status you will never see employers load up on fulltime workers again in this country there are huge companies today specializing in the placement of temp workers thus any economic recovery in the future will start with a blast of temp hiring "" Lacy opines that Congress did not renew unemployment benefits so many people took whatever they could get.

This accounts for the surge in people entering the workforce."" sort of suggests that there is plenty of temp work demand if people looking for fulltime work can land temp jobs in this size this quickly , no ?

Daysunsan: This type of report is showing up in various forms across the media. It will be interesting to see if the rationale for the huge sell off yesterday in interest rate sensitive stocks is reversed due to second thoughts on that possibility of interest rate increases. Sojo

I subscribe to the chuck butler's daily pfennig from everbank.com, and thought i would share a tidbit from this mornings missive OK...

Onto other things...

HOLD THE PHONE ON THAT SO-CALLED JOBS CREATION DATA from Friday!

Did my shouting come through the internet?

If not, believe me now and hear me later, I'M SHOUTING!

My friend and well respected analyst, John Mauldin sent me a report yesterday that the markets obviously didn't have privy to when they sent the dollar soaring on Friday...

Here's the skinny... Lacy Hunt of the King Report broke down the labor data and here's what he found...

This also answers many questions I received yesterday about how could we gain 308k jobs and the unemployment rate rise?

Well, here goes... " Of the 308k jobs created, 296k are temporary or part-time jobs!

(95%!) Let us repeat and let's be very clear, almost all jobs created in what is heralded as a great employment report are part-time jobs.

"In March, the number of persons who worked part time for economic reasons increased to 4.7 million, about the same level as in January.

These individuals indicated that they would like to work full time but were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find full-time jobs.

(See table A-5.)" People want full-time but can't find it.

Lacy opines that Congress did not renew unemployment benefits so many people took whatever they could get.

This accounts for the surge in people entering the workforce." The reason I make this out to be such a big deal, and it's not politics (as I've been accused of in the past), is that so many decided that this report would be the straw to stir the Fed Reserve's interest rate hike drink...

I don't see the Fed moving on numbers like that!

How could they? I wonder when the markets will get wind of this, and take appropriate action?

They sure didn't yesterday, as the euro was pushed down to 1.1984, only to recover overnight close to the 1.21 handle! The St.

Louis Fed's Poole, will speak today, it will be interesting if he brings up the labor report...

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