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Clayton Williams Energy Inc. - Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate - CWEI - InvestorVillage

My son was born in Honolulu a year before Obama.

My son has a Birth Certificate with a raised State seal. Obama does not have a Birth Certificate, just a Certificate of Birth.

Something fishy here.

Give it up - you're cluttering the board.   Msg # 191663 Posted 3/17/2009  4:18:53 PM by  hedonic deflator Recs: 8 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate

Must be legit, it has the official shadow of the car door on it.

LOL

It is good to know that he was born.

I was beginning to think he had been hatched. Billybud   Msg # 191669 Posted 3/17/2009  4:44:20 PM by  amstocks82 Recs: 20 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate

Factcheck.org....seriously now...

Factcheck.org website needs some factchecking of its ownself.

The links are there if you want to follow them http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/factchecking_th.php   >>>August 22, 2008 Fact-checking The Annenberg Fact-checkers Topics: Political News and commentaries Gradually, we're all learning that when it comes to matters relating to Barack Hussein Obama, one needs to do a lot of fact-checking.

But when facts are claimed to have been fact-checked by factcheck.org, and we know that factcheck.org is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation, then one has to seriously consider fact-checking the fact-checking of factcheck.org . Add to the growing brew of sleaze, this little trail of connections involving Michelle Obama (then Michelle Robinson), Valerie Jarrett, Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's chief of staff (now Michelle Obama's close friend and a senior adviser to the Obama campaign), Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, and on to the Chicago Annenberg Foundation , Chicago's Annenberg Challenge (a project of the Annenberg Foundation), and ACORN.   Msg # 191671 Posted 3/17/2009  5:20:12 PM by  rigdowntex Recs: 1 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate

That all sounds well and good when you read about it on the internet, but let's just look at the process.

Here is how you order birth certificates in Hawaii: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html It doesn't talk about long forms and short forms.

I would imagine that a long form may be a single record that his mother had and got lost/misplaced when she died.

I'm Obama's age and I sort of remember my mom having some type of birth certificate that she probably gave to me at some point in my life.

But when I needed to get a passport, it was easier for me to just order a new one.

Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that he followed procedures, but maybe he just ordered a birth certificate and figured "hey, here it is".

What even suggests that it is a forgery or illegitimate?

The state keeps the long form of the birth certificate in and it is possible to get one by writing to the state and providing the correct documentation or in person with the correct documentation.

Typically, no one needs the long form because the short form is sufficient for getting a passport.

Obama knows all this.

He didn't dispute any of the alleged facts of the lawsuit or that he could not get the long form - actually, all he had to do was sign the appropriate document and those who were suing would have gotten a copy from Hawaii - instead he made the choice to dispute the "standing" of the case.

He said that those suing had no standing to request this information or file the lawsuit.

Anyone else would have went out, ordered the long form, shown it to the media, the judge in the case and the lawyers.

That would have been the end of it.

Instead, Obama will spend several million dollars to fight the case.

>>Anyone else would have went out, ordered the long form, shown it to the media, the judge in the case and the lawyers.

That would have been the end of it.

Instead, Obama will spend several million dollars to fight the case. Gee, I wonder why?

>>>Anyone else would have went out, ordered the long form, shown it to the media, the judge in the case and the lawyers.

That would have been the end of it.

Instead, Obama will spend several million dollars to fight the case. Gee, I wonder why?     And the CWEI board continues to move forward.

Yea, moving forward gives a pass to a sitting president who is not a natural born citizen. Maybe you should move foward and relocate to Kenya.   Msg # 191685 Posted 3/17/2009  6:47:45 PM by  sluicer Recs: 2 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate

As far as I am concerned anyone wanting to verify that another person is qualified to serve as President under the requirements of the U.S.

Constitution has a direct interest in determining the qualifications of anyone who runs for the office. It appears that any clear thinging judge should immediately recognize this simple fact. Where do these idiots come from who sit in positions of justice? Regards

Heay, folks, lets be careful about getting rid of bho.

Think about who would be pres.

And who would follow him.

The birth certificate case came up for review in the fall, right in the middle of the campaign.

No one wanted to create a 'irestorm'in that time frame, so they decided to not deal with it and here we are with an economy that is rapidly being changed into an end game situation from which it will not recover.   Msg # 191699 Posted 3/17/2009  8:08:36 PM by  godot10 Recs: 3 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate

<<What even suggests that it is a forgery or illegitimate?>> Sheer, unmitigated bias.

They are grasping at hairs, trying ANYTHING to reverse their losses.

There is a birth announcement in the classified section of the Honolulu newspaper.

His mother is American, he was raised by American grandparents.

Trying to turn him into a foreigner after his resounding triumph in the election is the worst form of political chicanery, trumping up a far-fetched technicality to try to reverse the sweep of history. Maybe they don't like the way this election has finally moved the country on from the dregs of the Civil War?

Or maybe they are just sore losers.

Maybe it doesn't matter to them what disasters they promulgate, so long as they can take down the other side.

I've had a crawful of that attitude for the last eight years.

In 2000, more than half of the electorate voted for the other side -- but the Republicans turned around and shut them out of all of government activity for that whole term.

What contempt for the American people. So, if Obama were disqualified, then Joe Biden would be President.

Would they prefer that?

Surely they don't imagine that John McCain and the extravagant superstitious air-head Sarah Palin would take office?

Obama's Mama? Posted on October 22, 2008 It’s amazing what there is on the internet.

A geneological researcher has emailed me with two racey pictures of Obama’s mother.

That would be of trivial interest except for the setting in which the pictures were taken.

They were clearly taken in a sophisticated mid-century apartment and my correspondent suggests that the apartment details could be used to identify the photographer.

He feels that the photographer is the Communist “Frank” whom Obama mentions as his mentor.

That Frank was so intimate with Obama’s mother would support the contention that Frank was in fact Obama’s father.

Various bloggers have pointed out how similar Obama looks to “Frank” and the coverup of Obama’s birth certificate is certainly very suspicious.

I will not post the pictures here in case it causes trouble for this blog.

Instead, I have posted the pictures   here and here .

Http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/10/22/naughty-obama-mamma/   The geneology suggests that Barack Obama is perhaps American but the time frame is also questionable.

<<Heay, folks, lets be careful about getting rid of bho.

Think about who would be pres.

And who would follow him.>> Practicality is never the long suit of this kind of people. Did they ever stop to think of how many millions of people felt enfranchised for the first time in their lives by Obama -- and then imagine what they would think and do if he were removed from office by a few Supreme Court justices appointed by Bush and Bush Sr.?

On a totally far-fetched technicality?

The same justices who stopped a vote count and installed George W.

Bush, causing lasting and deep harm to this country and the rest of the world? The people fiddling around with birth certificates and arcane rules (his mother was just ONE YEAR too young ...

Etc.) of the most popular President since FDR DON'T think.

They just keep cranking out the inflammatory garbage.

Corrupted judges are everywhere   Msg # 191725 Posted 3/17/2009  9:39:19 PM by  raining_dividends Recs: 9 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate/ Delving

Are you serious? it is the same group of people running the white house before and after election.

Paulson Bernanke Geithner Summer are ALL THE SAME.

They work for PTB.

Even i give the Kenyan benefit of doubt, he cant work with free-will with these people surrounding him in whitehouse.

Obama has the same liberal mental illness as john kerry had when he refused to sign a release of his military medical records which would have documented all those 3 purple hearts he earned (har) in 90 days in country as crazy man savage says "liberialism is a mental illness"   Msg # 191738 Posted 3/17/2009  10:04:01 PM by  xhha69b Recs: 0 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate

<<even i give the Kenyan benefit of doubt, he cant work with free-will with these people surrounding him in whitehouse.>> I've thought about that while wishing he had chosen different people. I stopped to think: these Powers That Be -- what would they do if he shut them out of all the appointments?

And Hillary, if he just gave her the cold shoulder?

Do you think they'd all just fade away? They'd be actively working against him for his whole term, and they are indeed very powerful people. I'm hoping that Geithner, Summers, et al.

Will somehow morph like Hillary did.

(Yes, wan hope.) But he found Hillary a job she could do well, and on the morning of her appointment she was looking happy as a bright new penny -- and never forget that she's now under adult supervision, as she wouldn't have been if she were left out of the Administration. And he's not a Kenyan.

He had a Kenyan father.

(for pity's sake, get a grip!

This sniping from behind bushes is all so petty.)   Msg # 191746 Posted 3/17/2009  10:18:14 PM by  Black Blade Recs: 1 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate - Could be an American citizen after all

I also had read Frank Davis was most likely bho's real father Davis used to hang out with grandpa & grandma drinking and doing drugs under the Hawaiian sun bho used to go with Davis when he scored drugs good experience for someone who wants to be a community organizer when he grows up   Msg # 191793 Posted 3/18/2009  5:16:46 AM by  mrdecember123 Recs: 0 Add to Favorites Send PM Ignore Re: Certificate of Birth vs Birth Certificate - Bait and Switch with the Obama Birth Certificate