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World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back - Giant in the Playground Forums

World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back And thus it was. Hoping to tryout the Higher Learning trick when servers come back (or not, misread the time that they'll be back...)

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Yeah, bunch of people on Whisperwind got it a few weeks ago when we were having server issues.

We'd get about half an hour between crashes. They seem to have fixed the bug for catching Old Crafty on the croc fishing daily.

On the plus side, there's nothing quite like taking down a trio of horde bastards (plus a pair of NPC guards) while they're trying to mess with you while you're fishing in Org.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Well i was there, All were fakes bar one, one of the 3 that i have

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back RE: Higher Learning .

Thing is, I'm normally at work when the servers come back up so I can't try that. RE: Expertise discussion from previous thread .

See, this is what I was joking about when I said that 'everybody else would like to know too' earlier.

Just about every time I see this come up, everyone throws different numbers around. RE: Patch 3.1 .

Well, they've corrected themselves on the bit about consumable ammunition.

They want to do it, and the changes to how ammo bags/quivers work is still scheduled for 3.1, but the removal of the ammunition itself won't make it for that patch.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : Alright, just for information's sake.

I'll restate what I think I know. The expertise cap is 6.5% for raid bosses dodging from behind.

Parry numbers are different, each boss being tuned anywhere from 5-15% Hit cap is 9% for raid bosses, 17% for spell hit. For heroics (two levels above you) Cap for all three is 6%, although I think mobs have a 14% parry chance two levels above you.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back I know elitist jerks has a parry calculation section on their site somewhere, I'm just too lazy to go look it up to link to it for you fine folks of the playground. I only know that not near enough gear has expertise on it, meaning I'm likely to be gemming for it if I want to hit the cap - something I'm not terribly keen on right now, as I'd rather have avoidance over expertise, and being a pally tank, I don't think a lack of expertise will hurt me as much as it would hurt the other tank types.

Yes, I do know it's important and I'd be wrong to ignore it, thanks for correcting me, but I figure with a 1h sword (human pally ) and the seal of vengeance glyph, I can get more than enough at the start. Dual specs can't possibly come soon enough!

That is all.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back But...

Dual specs is pretty much the same as it is now only you won't have to assign the talent points again. The way I understand it, you still have to go to the trainer and change it.

I'm pretty sure it'll still cost money.

Maybe not as much, but I don't personally change talents often.

Maybe a paladin who tanks and heals for his guild on command would find it convenient or something, but it isn't a particularly amazing change unless you change your spec every five minutes for no particular reason. Also, the word spec...

It's short for specification?

How does that make sense in context? Also also, people who say 'pst me'.

It's like saying personal PIN number or automated ATM machine... Leaving just the accompaniment... Solo. Spoiler Pirate itP. Chaos itP. Avatar by xNadia

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : Actually, it's short for Specialization, and yes Dual Specializations is a bit of a misnomer. Let's keep in mind that Blizzard has released VERY little information about how it will work, and that they've made it clear that anything they *have* said about it is subject to change.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if what we end up with resembles the 'hero class' fiasco -- something that bears only a tangental relationship with what is expected but is just close enough Blizzard feels they aren't lying. Personally I think they'd be better off if they dumped the idea and just revisited the trees for some of the classes so they weren't quite so specialized, but that would probably causes more problems (especially PR) than it would solve so...

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : Ah, yes.

We had a rather famous "pirate" by the name of Yar on my server back in the day.

He replied to those kinds of things as they occurred in trade.

He ate savory delights and "sailed" the aldor elevator, going "Please Please Send Tell me?

Arr, I dun' think so, matey!" and such if you ever made a silly mistake as that.

Gave him a free enchant for making me laugh.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back That's awesome, Mattarias. Player_Zero, as a priest, I can imagine that you don't respec too often, but for certain classes and even people - because I know there are priests out there who raid as a healing spec but grind dailies and such for money as dps, even if I don't know any personally - who like to respec from their raid spec into a more solo-friendly one.

When you do it often, you eventually make a mistake in placing a point, and sometimes that can be pretty bad for a spec.

Personally, even if you still have to pay, I'd still like having my points already spent so I can switch back and forth between my ret and prot spec without having to waste time making sure that every point I place is in the right spot. TheEmerged, that's a good idea, I feel, because I can't quite come up with any downsides, but at the same time I feel there's something fundamentally wrong when a moonkin druid and a tree druid can heal and dps equally well.

What, then, becomes the point of choosing one tree over the other?

It would vastly reduce options, and take some of the mechanical differences out of the game, which some people like having around.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : I agree, point of specialization -anything is that you get better with some things and not on other.

There need to be differences between the trees and frankly Blizzard has done immense improvments pretty much alll the time.

I like the way it is very well. Before launch the plan was to not allow respecs at all.

Yup, never (except major classchanges I'd imagine).

And even at the max cost now, 50 gold, is nothing you cant earn in 10 minutes anyway at max level. The idea of two mainspecs intregue me.

Even if it is just "Spec_1" and "Spec_2" that you can switch between, with or without cost, at a trainer or the ability to switch between them, say once an hour but anywhere (oh you need a tank...

/flex... now I am that). Managed to get my rogue up to 80 for the last elder coins.

Love the fan o knives.

Frankly it is needed to be any kind of viable dps anywhere.

I am also considering speccing out of combat into mutilate, since I may be doing alot more instances on the rogue now. One reason for my subnormal dps could be I have not yet found any replacement for my Sword of Azhara from Serpentshrine Cavern .

Nothing I got from quests, including the arena of anguish in Zuldrak, has come close.

And its not just because it has +hit that I need dearly, even the top end damage on it is more then most 1h I found in questing all of Borean, grizzly, howling fjord, most of dragonblight and some visits to the other zones except icecrown. Hopefully this will change with a naxx 10man or two.

Still. I find very few things that are upgrades and it shows on my dps.

Hunters 2 levels below me, wins even on single target dps.

Extremly casual that I may be on rogues.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44250 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37235 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44187 Heroics.

That way you can pull your weight in a raid.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Heeeey everyone.

I've started up with WoW again since about Christmas when I got Wrath.

Haven't started with my 70 priest yet, but I made a Death Knight who is now 77, Zagadka.

I'm on Ysera server.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : Thanks, I'll check into those links tonight, wowhead is blocked at work...

For some reason But I was unable to enter heroics before 10 pm yesterday, but ill be on that soon.

And my guildies kinda owe me a sweetrun though naxx 10man anyways with all the raids I done on my pally there (about every 25man and every 10 man except the last week since...

Grinding my rogue 70-80 for the elder coins).

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back www.wow-loot.com pick your class, see whats in the instances. Also buy your weapons if you have too.

As we tell people who raid in the guild i am in dont expect to be carried through raids.

Do everything you can to gear before.

Run heroics, buy gear off of AH, do your rep grinds, buy your badge gear.

Pug OS and Vault.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : May want to hold off on that.

The reported changes for 3.1 are massive buffs to combat.

Meanwhile, Blizz stated that they wanted to increase mutilate dps, and apparently the best way to do that is a 20% decrease in the damage of our primary attack.

Much like they wanted to reduce fury warrior dps in 3.0.8, so they added 5% hit to TG.

Seriously, what the ****?

I've come to the conclusion that the devs are a bunch of retarded monkeys.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Icecrown is home to a lot of nice blue quest rewards, too.

I'm fairly certain you can find an upgrade or two there while making a good deal of cash along the way. Welcome back to the fold, Icewalker.

As you'll see, your name fits here much better than in stinky old Starcraft.

It's time to abandon all ties and submit fully to us.

We have cake!

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : See, my main is a mage so dual spec'ing means little to that character.

If I PvP'd I might see having a PvP vs PvE spec, but I PvP very little (I catch myself doing a bit of Wintergrasp). Now on my druid, it's a different subject.

I've essentially put the druid on hold pending further info on how the dual-spec will work.

I'm tempted to "dual spec" as bear & cat, but reality will probably be feral-resto. And don't misunderstand what I mean when I say they should revamp the trees rather than dual spec.

For a while there Blizzard was putting talents moderately-high in one tree that improved your 'secondary' abilities, like the shaman enhancement talent that gives you a bit of spell damage/healing for attack power.

They need more of this -- I'd say they need a LOT more of this.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be decisions, I'm saying those decisions shouldn't be as stark as they are for some classes.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back The Ice Stone has melted!

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Gief Love Fool plix.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : I've seen this all the time too.

What does it mean?!

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back No idea, but it was annoying the high hell outta me last night.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Brief googling reveals it as a bug that is being looked into.

Rumor has that it's related to the midsummer festival event. I really need to check google before I ask questions.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back RE: Googling WoW info .

To each their own, but I find WoWInsider and MMO-Champion to be the better places to search for WoW-related news.

MMO-Champion suffers from a raider bias (and a strong one) and WoWInsider has a bit of a signal/noise issue, but if you want to know what's happening *right now* in the game they're both very good sources. And http://blue.mmo-champion.com/ is as close to the official forums as any sane person needs to get. RE: Random Loot is Random .

Got my Lovely Black Dress from my 2nd LIITA gift this year.

I got one the first year but needed to sell it, I had computer problems that limited my participation last year.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back RE: Weapons for a Rogue While I don't play a rogue in WotC (I had a swordie in BC) and therefore can't quite comment specifically, I've found http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41383 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40703 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44311 make excellent choices for my Dual Wielding Death Knight.

I can only imagine that the agility on the second and third make them even nicer, but my spec is entirely without the need or desire to crit with melee attacks and is therefore somewhat different from ye olde sword rogue.

Granted, that character's gear is kinda wonky right now, it's really hard to play him with everyone clamoring for my Holy Paladin to heal their heroics. Golgas- Holy Paladin Deras- Frost Death Knight Grizzly Hills

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : Have you decided on your endgame role and spec?

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back Quote: : With the reported plans for the changes to combat, maces are going to be the best choice for rogues who can get their hands on a pair.

I'm looking at Angry Dread for my MH and Split Greathammer for my OH.

Assuming the bloody things drop.

Calamity's Grasp and Webbed Death is probably the second best combo, but I don't have either of those yet either, though I did manage to pick up Murder this week and it's almost as good as WD.

Kinda bummed that I spent so much dkp on Sinister Revenge a couple weeks ago.

Think mutilate will still outclass combat daggers, though I may play with that spec just to see what I can do with it.

Shudder to think of what soloing will be like with my main special having that position requirement.

Guess I can keep PvP mutilate for my second spec, and that wouldn't be so bad... The biggest problem with combat daggers is still being starved for talents.

This looks like the best I can do.

Really need 10 more points to bring it up to par with other combat specs.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back OFFICIAL DUAL SPEC INFO Sources: http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=69839 http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/02/12...-ghostcrawler/ http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14990...stcrawler.html http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=39062.0 1>

You will gain it at max level for a one-time fee/quest/details to follow. 2>

You can only change it at a Lexicon of Power (currently in cities). 3>

However, inscription is being given the ability to create a Lexicon out in the world with the help of other players (like a Mage Table). 4>

You will have separate glyphs and hotbars for both specs. 5>

You have to pay to respec each spec separately. 6>

As part of this change, Hunters will no longer have to pay to respec their pets, and are going to be gaining some method of accessing the stable remotely. 7>

You will be able to play around with your talents in-game without making a permanent change (essentially, an in-game talent calc). 8>

They've announced that a "Gear Manager" function is going in similar to the Outfitter addon, but no details other than that it might not make it all the way into 3.1.

Re: World Of Warcraft Thread V - The Lich King Strikes Back ...Ok, that's it.

When this is implemented, I'm yelling "IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!" whenever I start a lexicon-summoning so people can change. I don't plan to leave Fire, but lemme say, EXCELLENT.




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