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Keep Bleeping That Chicken--On Air Bloops and the FCC - Absolute Write Water Cooler
Okay, here's something I've been wondering about.
Remember all the hoopla over Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction?
Initially, CBS was penalized by the FCC with a nominal fine--yeah it was small potatoes for a media conglomerate, but still it was fined..
Quote: : The high court on Monday directed the 3rd U.S.
Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia to consider reinstating the $550,000 fine that the Federal Communications Commission imposed on CBS over Jackson's breast-baring performance at the 2004 Super Bowl.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_195651.html Well, take a look at this bloop from a FOX News affiliate in New York.
During one of those cheesy anchor/weatherman exchanges, the anchor tried to say "Just keep plucking that chicken" and, well, just totally messed it up.
So, where is the FCC's--and apparently the Supreme Court's--line on accidental on-air bloopers?
Ernie Anastos, the anchor who dropped the F-bomb, wasn't fired or suspended.
Quote: : Quote: : Dennis Swanson , the executive who oversees the Fox stations, has an almost zerotolerance policy when it comes to F-bombs on the air.
Though the scenarios are different, in May 2005, Swanson was in a similar spot at WCBS/Channel 2 when Arthur Chi'en dropped the F-word while being heckled by Opie & Anthony operatives.
Chi'en thought he was off camera at the time.
He was fired.
It isn't the first time viewers have heard the F-bomb on local television, either.
A year ago, Sue Simmons used the word in an on-air promo, which she thought was being taped for use later.
She apologized and was not penalized.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...#ixzz0SkBmGBWW
If Janet Jackson's accident was a finable offence according to the FCC, then what is this?
Why the difference between accidental skin and accidental cursing?
Any thoughts?
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Freudian slips are treated with more understanding?
ROFL
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Last week, Jenny Slate slipped and accidentally dropped the f-bomb during a SNL sketch when she was supposed to say "frickin'." The episode also happened to be her SNL debut.
She won't be fined or fired, and NBC won't have a fine either.
I believe because it's late night, it's outside of some of the FCC regulations (I read this but will have to find the article again to be exactly sure why they said it's different), but SNL was fined in the past for the same thing.
They got off, I think, because it was an obvious, honest mistake, and you can see it in Slate's face the second she realizes what she did.
I'm sure it also has to do with the ratings ...
What is the viewership and demographic of that one SNL episode (or newscast) versus the half-time show at the Superbowl, which is supposed to be a "family affair"?
Not to mention Janet Jackson was staged, and nudity is perceived as way worse than vulgar language.
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HehehahahahahHAHAAHAHAHAHH HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH A!
*collapses*
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That was my original thought too, katie, save for one thing: scripted semi-nudity (butt shots) have happened in prime time television shows.
So if it's scripted, it's okay?
Scripted curse words don't incur fines either and don't seem to be that big of a deal.
It just seems like a big dichotomy to me.
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Our culture is weird about curses, nudity, sex and violence.
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Speaking of the SNL f-bomb...
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/09/27/2009-09-27_saturday_night_live_cast_member_jenny_slate_dro ps_the_fbomb_during_skit.html
Quote: : Because the slipup occurred about 12:40 a.m., well after prime time, "SNL" is not expected to face fines from the Federal Communications Commission.
Slate was doing a biker chick talk-show skit with co-star Kristen Wiig when the curse word fell.
"You know what? You freakin' just threw an ashtray full of butts at my head," Slate told Wiig.
Then she got a little too in character, adding;
"You know what? You stood up for yourself, and I f
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Quote: : That was my original thought too, katie, save for one thing: scripted semi-nudity (butt shots) have happened in prime time television shows.
So if it's scripted, it's okay?
Scripted curse words don't incur fines either and don't seem to be that big of a deal.
It just seems like a big dichotomy to me.
A butt is not a tit.
I think you refer to the famous Caruso "NYPD Blue" butt scene, which was later in the evening (coulda been prime time tho) during a "mature" adult-themed show.
The JJ boob shot was during the SuperBowl and the powers that be felt that image might have scarred the cornea's of too many pre-adolescent boys.
IMO.
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Http://www.fcc.gov/eb/oip/Welcome.html
And here's the actual FCC regulation to look at too:
Quote: : It is a violation of federal law to air obscene programming at any time.
It is also a violation of federal law to broadcast indecent or profane programming during certain hours.
(See definitions}.
Congress has given the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) the responsibility for administratively enforcing the law that governs these types of broadcasts.
The FCC has authority to issue civil monetary penalties, revoke a license or deny a renewal application.
In addition, violators of the law, if convicted in a federal district court, are subject to criminal fines and/or imprisonment for not more than two years.
The FCC vigorously enforces this law where we find violations.
In 2004 alone, the FCC took action in 12 cases, involving hundreds of thousands of complaints, assessing penalties and voluntary payments totaling approximately $8,000,000.
The Commission has also toughened its enforcement penalties by proposing monetary penalties based on each indecent utterance in a broadcast, rather than proposing a single monetary penalty for the entire broadcast.
At the same time, however, the Commission is careful of First Amendment protections and the prohibitions on censorship and interference with broadcasters' freedom of speech.
The FCC has denied complaints in cases in which we determined the broadcast was not indecent based on the overall context of the programming.
Regardless of the outcome, the FCC strives to address every complaint within 9 months of its receipt.
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It makes me think the FCC would have more compassion (lack of a better word) for a "real person" (news anchor) than an entertainer slipping up.
And scripted nudity has certainly appeared, but not breasts.
And if I'm right, never at the 8 o'clock hour.
Always later prime time, to protect kids and puppies and stuff.
So as far as the FCC is concerned, I don't think scripted nudity is a fair comparison to a boob flash, and especially not when it the perceived viewership was made up of more kids and families than the average primetime show.
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Quote: : A butt is not a tit.
I think you refer to the famous Caruso "NYPD Blue" butt scene, which was later in the evening (coulda been prime time tho) during a "mature" adult-themed show.
The JJ boob shot was during the SuperBowl and the powers that be felt that image might have scarred the cornea's of too many pre-adolescent boys.
IMO. Yeah, I wasn't really excited to see Caruso's butt, personally.
But (pun intended) as I said, the f bomb at the FOX affiliate was dropped during the evening news, well before late night programming.
So, according to their own policies and previously decided cases, shouldn't that be fined if the FCC is going to be consistent?
I should probably state that I personally don't have a problem with the f bomb on air, whether scripted or not, so this has nothing to do with morality for me.
I'm looking at the consistency of FCC regulations.
Since the FCC has control over what is permissible to be on the air or not, IMO they have the ability to censor broadcasts by using monetary penalties as a threat against the networks.
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I think he said "plucking".
I've listened to it 5 or 6 times.
No F-bomb there, if you ask me.
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LOL-- he said he said f*cking and that's definitely what I hear.
Besides, the look on the lady's face next to him is classic.
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Despite what the FCC said about past primetime being a factor, I think not fining Jenny Slate and NBC/SNL also had a lot to do with the fact it was obviously unintentional.
There were also a lot of individuals--mostly entertainment magazines and the like--calling for her not to be fined because it was an honest mistake.
Same goes with the newscast.
Despite being in primetime, it was an honest mistake and, being a live show--like SNL--these things sometimes happen.
A scripted series airing during primetime, on the other hand, any FCC violations would be deliberate.
There's a reason something like Two and Half Men, which deliberately skirts the line in far worse ways than someone accidentally saying 'fuck' on live TV, airs later in primetime.
And back to the Superbowl, yep, that was live, but I don't think anyone believed it was an honest mistake.
And again, the halftime show is supposed to be happy family viewing, which neither SNL or that newscast would claim to be.
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Oh, I thought you were talking about this.
Ahem.
Carry on with your important discussion and stuff.
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Quote: : Oh, I thought you were talking about this.
Ahem.
Carry on with your important discussion and stuff.
Awesome.
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HahahhahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!|
*faints again*
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Quote: : Okay, here's something I've been wondering about.
Remember all the hoopla over Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction?
Initially, CBS was penalized by the FCC with a nominal fine--yeah it was small potatoes for a media conglomerate, but still it was fined..
Well, take a look at this bloop from a FOX News affiliate in New York.
During one of those cheesy anchor/weatherman exchanges, the anchor tried to say "Just keep plucking that chicken" and, well, just totally messed it up.
So, where is the FCC's--and apparently the Supreme Court's--line on accidental on-air bloopers?
Ernie Anastos, the anchor who dropped the F-bomb, wasn't fired or suspended.
If Janet Jackson's accident was a finable offence according to the FCC, then what is this?
Why the difference between accidental skin and accidental cursing?
Any thoughts? $550,000 fine or Blood!
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We have swearing and nudity on TV frequently, with the 9pm watershed restriction.
Usually female nudity, but I won't start on that because I'll rant and I'm grumpy because I haven't had lunch yet.
Maybe the FCC take into account what was deliberate and what wasn't.
Here you can pretty much show anything as long as it's female.
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Quote: : Speaking of the SNL f-bomb...
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/09/27/2009-09-27_saturday_night_live_cast_member_jenny_slate_dro ps_the_fbomb_during_skit.html
Now, the FOX news slipup was the evening news show--so shouldn't that incur fines if this is the FCC's reasoning for NOT fining SNL?
Wow, you know, I think we had that show on in the background (SNL has gotten so BAD lately...IMO), and I didn't even notice the slip-up.
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Quote: : Oh, I thought you were talking about this.
Ahem.
Carry on with your important discussion and stuff.
That's hysterical.
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Http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5205651632554#
My view is instated in the title.
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Quote: : ...
So, where is the FCC's--and apparently the Supreme Court's--line on accidental on-air bloopers?
Ernie Anastos, the anchor who dropped the F-bomb, wasn't fired or suspended.
Hmm, the Supreme Court - the last curse-word case I know of that went to the Supreme Court was the 1970's WBAI playing George Carlin's "Seven words you can't say on the radio," in which the it was ruled against WBAI, confirming Carlin's statement that you CAN'T say those words on the radio.
But more recently it appears (without a Supreme Court ruling - yet) you CAN perhaps say ONE of those words and get away with it.
Quote: : If Janet Jackson's accident was a finable offence according to the FCC, then what is this?
Why the difference between accidental skin and accidental cursing?
Any thoughts? There was an F-Word Precedent a few years ago when Bono said "fucking brilliant" (just after 5:40) and the FCC gave some "ruling" that it was used in adverbial form, and thus acceptable.
Quote: : I think he said "plucking".
I've listened to it 5 or 6 times.
No F-bomb there, if you ask me.
Quote: : LOL-- he said he said f*cking and that's definitely what I hear.
Besides, the look on the lady's face next to him is classic.
It sounds to me like plucking, or at worst "flucking."
But yes, he was saying it AS IF HE WERE SAYING fucking a chicken, and that woman knew that's what he "wanted" to say.
I'd like to have seen her face change while he was saying it, rather than just the aftereffect.
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Quote: : http://www.fcc.gov/eb/oip/Welcome.html
And here's the actual FCC regulation to look at too: The problem is that nobody can come up with an objective definition of obscenity.
As far as I'm concerned, The 700 Club is obscene, but I don't demand that it be taken off the air because I know I don't have a right to not be offended.
Also, I know how to change the channel.
IMO, the FCC should not be regulating content for any reason, not even to "protect the children", and certainly not to appease uptight fundies who have nothing better to do than to complain to the FCC every time they see something on TV that squicks them.
As far as I'm concerned, if NBC wants to show hardcore gay porn on Wednesday nights at 8:00PM, and the advertisers don't raise a stink, then they should be allowed to do so.
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If people can change the channel, then it shouldn't be regulated by the FCC.
It should be up to parents to keep their crotchfruit from watching inappropriate material, not a government agency.
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