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Funeral v. Kid A - Forums
Pitchfork recently named Arcade Fire's Funeral and Radiohead's Kid A as the two best albums of the decade.
I had been living under a rock, apparently, and had never heard Funeral outside of the song used in the Where the Wild Things Are trailer.
Well, needless to say, now that I've listened to it, I'm obsessed.
I'm not the biggest Radiohead fan in the world, but it goes without saying that Kid A is also a pretty stellar accomplishment, and certainly a seminal record.
To me, it seems the choice comes down to two tracks: "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)" vs.
"Idioteque", and I prefer the vibrant, dense musicality of Arcade Fire to the experimentation of Radiohead.
Which is better?
Do you hate both?
Keep in mind, your answer utterly defines you from here on out.
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Neighborhood (3) or Haiti.
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Quote: : Pitchfork You kinda lost me here.
Anyhoo, Idiotheque FTW.
They can expand beyond the traditional 4-piece rock convention without actually having eleven people in their band.
I hold The Beatles' discography up as the model upon which Radiohead's vast (as to be remembered by history) career will be compared.
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Quote: : Neighborhood (3) or Haiti.
All good. I literally can't remember the last time I played an album once and instantly loved it.
I almost always dismiss stuff completely the first time through, but this one was immediate.
Side note: is there anyone who thinks Kid A isn't the best Radiohead album of the decade?
I only picked it because of the Pitchfork list, but I think a solid argument could be made for In Rainbows , which I personally like better.
OK Computer , of course, doesn't count.
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Funeral is great, but Kid A really is a worthy contender for the best album of the decade.
I like The Moon and Antarctica better than Funeral .
Keep in mind Nim, Kid A is probably played out a bit in your mind whereas Funeral is fresh and new.
Do you think Funeral will hold up as well ten years from now when you look back on it?
Also, that Pitchfork list was fu cking nuts.
Look how high Jay-Z placed!
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I prefer Funeral.
But I l ve Idioteque.
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsLFNcnwGM
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My favorite Radiohead album is pretty fluid;
Right now I'm really on an Amnesiac kick.
But I'd still usually name Kid A as my favorite Radiohead album, this decade or not.
And I really enjoy Funeral, but Radiohead is going to win out in nearly everything for me.
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Yeah, I probably shouldn't be voting, as I just heard Funeral for the first time two days ago.
It's like, which do you like better: your childhood, or this blowjob you're getting right now??
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I think you could argue that any of OK Computer, Kid A, Amnesiac, HTTT, and In Rainbows could be their best.
I know people tend to love OKC and Kid A the most, but let's not forget that Amnesiac has Pyramid Song, You and Whose Army, I Might Be Wrong, and Life in a Glass House;
HTTT has 2+2=5, There There, Myxamatosis, A Wolf at the Door, and Where I End and You Begin;
And In Rainbows has Reckoner, Nude, 15 Step, Bodysnatchers, and Jigsaw Falling Into Place.
In terms of their impact on music and culture, OKC and Kid A probably had the biggest influence (with In Rainbows' free-access not quite as industry-changing as they say), but the actual music is and has been as consistently good as ever for the past 11 years.
My own favorite changes frequently.
Funeral is an amazing album.
Each song is fantastic, and it belongs in the top ten.
But Kid A is a seminal work and ought to be #1.
My issues come with the Fleet Foxes being ridiculously high up -- a good album to be sure, but not best of the decade.
Panda Bear's Person Pitch is also a great album, but not top ten.
Merriweather Post Pavilion is much better.
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Quote: : My issues come with the Fleet Foxes being ridiculously high up I kind of freaked out when I first heard the album, but my affection has cooled somewhat.
It's pretty inconsistent at times, but I think they'll knock their next one out of the park.
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Kid A is a much bigger achievement that Funeral, although it would never get my number one spot in an albums of the decade list.
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The problem with Arcade Fire is that they are just pretty ****ing boring by comparison.
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Anybody actually listen to Neon Bible ?
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Quote: : Fantasy Anybody actually listen to Neon Bible ?
The song or album (yes to both, BTW)?
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Quote: : Roo The problem with Arcade Fire is that they are just pretty ****ing boring by comparison.
I guess it depends on what you're after from your music.
That varies for me wildly depending on my mood, but I mostly appreciate Radiohead songs more than I get swept up by them.
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Quote: : Ninja The song or album (yes to both, BTW)?
I meant the album.
I never got around to it, since Funeral didn't really grab me, aside from a song or two.
I will say the cover art was nice, though.
Did they do anything after Neon Bible, or are their 15 minutes up?
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I hardly ever listen to Neon Bible.
It has some really good songs, but overall it strains too hard to be "big and important".
Funeral is big and important in a much more genuine way.
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Quote: : but I mostly appreciate Radiohead songs more than I get swept up by them.
Ooooh good point.
Quote: : I hardly ever listen to Neon Bible.
It has some really good songs, but overall it strains too hard to be "big and important".
Funeral is big and important in a much more genuine way.
Yah, I think the "sophomore slump" hit them pretty hard.
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Quote: : Fantasy Anybody actually listen to Neon Bible ?
I like it.
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Quote: : I like it.
How would you compare it (briefly) to Funeral?
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Pitchfork's #3 (Daft Punk - Discovery) should have been included in the poll
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Quote: : pitchfork's #3 (Daft Punk - Discovery) should have been included in the poll Why stop there?
I should have had two hundred options.
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Keep in mind that what follows is just my opinion.
Pitchfork isn't a bad site, but the amount of Radiohead cocksucking on there is just obscene.
Granted, Radiohead is a talented band, and they're some of the most gifted musicians of their era (even though I've never been that big a fan).
But they're not the only band that's recorded in the past 20 years.
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Quote: : Fantasy Anybody actually listen to Neon Bible ?
I liked Funeral, but never really got into neon bible, except for a couple of songs
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Quote: : Keep in mind that what follows is just my opinion.
Pitchfork isn't a bad site, but the amount of Radiohead cocksucking on there is just obscene.
Granted, Radiohead is a talented band, and they're some of the most gifted musicians of their era (even though I've never been that big a fan).
But they're not the only band that's recorded in the past 20 years.
Wasn't it their original review of Kid A that put them on the map?
Just this gloriously long, florid tongue bath?
I like Pitchfork--it helps me discover new music--but I certainly don't bank on them for analysis.
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Quote: : Why stop there?
I should have had two hundred options.
I just like it a lot more than kid A and Funeral.
also, I think it would add something to the discussion, the funness of Daft Punk vs the seriousness of radiohead and arcade fire
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Quote: : Wasn't it their original review of Kid A that put them on the map?
OK Computer put Radiohead on the map, which subsequently made The Bends all the more popular.
The release of Kid A was highly anticipated.
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Quote: : Wasn't it their original review of Kid A that put them on the map?
Just this gloriously long, florid tongue bath?
I like Pitchfork--it helps me discover new music--but I certainly don't bank on them for analysis.
I don't quite remember, but it's generally a given that whenever Rediohead releases a new song or record, Pitchfork kneels down and slurps all the semen out of the band's balls.
It's ridiculous. I mean, naming their records both the greatest of the 1990s and the 2000s?
We all know there's been a lot of good albums released in that time.
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Quote: : I guess it depends on what you're after from your music.
That varies for me wildly depending on my mood, but I mostly appreciate Radiohead songs more than I get swept up by them.
My primary concern in music appreciation is finding stuff that inspires me.
Stuff that manages to be catchy without using a cliched 4-chord (w/ 2-chord chorus) arrangement or overused beat.
Arcade Fire is original, but dull.
They get a couple loose points for Win Butler's vocal similarity to Ian McCulloch (though I don't think it's widely recognized enough quite yet).
Inventiveness is the key.
Unless I've missed something, and Arcade Fire have been at least able to meld elements of electronica into their tracks, Radiohead will definitely outlive them.
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Quote: : Fantasy OK Computer put Radiohead on the map, which subsequently made The Bends all the more popular.
The release of Kid A was highly anticipated.
I mean, put Pitchfork on the map.
I remember a few years ago, someone posted the review, and it was the first time we'd ever heard of them.
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