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Men's Forum: Training to sleep
Well, now with college started, and part time work, I need to sleep in order to concentrate.
I find myself not being able to concentrate.
When i try to read my books, I can only read like 1 paragraph, and then I find my eyes closed, and cant remember shit of what i read.
I dont have time to just wait around for sleep to come to me, so I need sleep in my time i scheduled for sleep, but Im not the kind of person that can just fall asleep when i want to, and can spend hours lying in bed wide awake.
Last night i didnt sleep at all ( I was plenty tired), and in between classes i had 3 hours to try to sleep, and I didnt sleep at all.
Any suggestions on training yourself to fall asleep?
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Drink up :-p
or pretty much take tylenol pm or something
what i do is stay up the day before then sleep around 8pm and usually gets to be the schedule of sleep
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Advil PM works good for me.
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Keep yourself busy, wake up early in the morning 6 or 7am.
Don't take naps during the day, no matter how bad you want to.
For the fir few days you will be exhausted all day, but just tough it out and your body will adjust soon.
I try not to go back home until night time once I leave in the morning.
I get to sleep anywhere from 10pm-12:30am every night and wake up at MWF 6am, Tuesday+Thrusday 7am, and weekends 8am.
I exercise at the ass crack of dawn, I go to class after, do homework and study for about 3-5 hours, go to some boxing/MMA classes in the afternoon for about 3 hours, go home shower eat and stuff, go to sleep.
Repeat.
I also don't go out anymore on weekends or anytime, because one night of going out can expletive up my whole sleep schedule royally...
That's just me thou...
However, it is college and you should be having as much fun as possible for your first year or two...
Maybe 3 . Eventually you will start to get into a different mind set (hopefully) and you'll start being a bit more organized with your time.
I don't know if what i said makes sense, i'm just rambling on..
Im going to sleep now.
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Just take some LSD, you won't worry about sleeping at all then
in all reality tho, set a schedule for yourself and live by it.
If you stray at all, you will be tired.
Also, once you do get to where you have a schedule, don't sleep in on the weekends.
Sleeping too long actually makes you more tired.
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Quote: , originally posted by Chong » Keep yourself busy, wake up early in the morning 6 or 7am.
Don't take naps during the day, no matter how bad you want to.
For the fir few days you will be exhausted all day, but just tough it out and your body will adjust soon.
Yep. just like kids.
Keep em busy during the day;
They'll sleep like a rock all through the night
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Don't nap during the day.
take melatonin an hour before you want to go to bed.
If the extra melatonin isn't helping try using valerian root instead.
Do not drink/smoke/imbibe anything that will activate your brain/body (nicotine, b vitamins, etc).
Do drink something like a chamomile tea (no sugar).
When you sleep make sure your room is absolutely pitch black, if you can see your hand in front of your face it is too light.
Buy a sleeping mask if you can't get it dark enough (darkness promotes the natural production of melatonin from your brain).
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One tip ive found is only use your bed for sleeping.
If you are on a laptop, watching tv, anything else, dont lay in bed.
You can "train" yourself that once you lay on that pillow, its lights out time.
Works for me anyway.
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Quote: , originally posted by pearl » one tip ive found is only use your bed for sleeping.
If you are on a laptop, watching tv, anything else, dont lay in bed.
You can "train" yourself that once you lay on that pillow, its lights out time.
Works for me anyway.
that too.
Bed is for two things only, sleeping and fucking.
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Quote: , originally posted by ninjarico »
that too.
Bed is for two things only, sleeping and fucking.
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Most of you guys hit it pretty good.
As gay as it is, I sleep most of the time with a mask.
It helps a ton.
Plus working out and doing something to make yourself tired will help out a lot.
In college you're pretty sedentary and don't do much, so exercise I think is important.
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I'm in the same situation.
I thought Tylenol PM would do the trick but that only works a couple times then you just build a tolerance to it.
My gf's mother always says take tylenol PM and a shot of bourbon and you will sleep like an infant.
IDK but it is frustrating to be up all night knowing you have to be up soon.
Happens to me every night then I find myself napping during the day between school and work.
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Quote: , originally posted by BKKevin » I'm in the same situation.
I thought Tylenol PM would do the trick but that only works a couple times then you just build a tolerance to it.
My gf's mother always says take tylenol PM and a shot of bourbon and you will sleep like an infant.
IDK but it is frustrating to be up all night knowing you have to be up soon.
Happens to me every night then I find myself napping during the day between school and work.
I read that if you're in bed for 20-30 min and still can't fall asleep, then just get up.
By that time you're even more frustrated and its even more difficult to sleep.
So usually after like half an hour I'll get up, read a book til I start falling asleep, and then get back in bed.
Reading really puts me to sleep.
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I had terrible insomnia for the last 3-4 months that I recently got over.
What really helped me was:
1.
Set the time on your alarm that you want to wake up at, and wake up at that time for a month straight NO MATTER WHAT.
2.
DO NOT force yourself to go to bed if you are not tired, that's how you develop "sleep anxiety" (exactly what I had).
You'll just lie there awake thinking, and you'll start to relate stress with your bed.
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Try to make your room as dark as possible, this helps speed up your body's release of Melatonin which is what makes you sleepy.
4.
No computer (or TV, depending on what you watch) 1 hour to 30 minutes before you usually fall asleep.
Two reasons: one, the bright glare of a monitor or television makes your body think it's still daylight, and it won't want to release melatonin.
Two, the computer will "wake up" your mind, and will take it that much longer to relax again.
Go read a book, you probably should be doing that anyways.
5.
Over the counter sleep aids suck ass.
I tried everything I could to get over my sleep anxiety (Ambien, Tylenol PM, getting hammered off vodka, etc.) Some worked, but I still felt like shit.
6.
Try not to eat RIGHT before you go to bed, the digestion will keep you up.
7.
Try to limit overall stress if you can.
Those are the things that helped me, and I had a BAD bout of insomnia for those 4 months and thought I was fucked forever.
I realize you don't have the same problem, but the same principles I used for going to bed can be applied to all aspects of sleep.
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Quote: , originally posted by solorider » First: Log off MA
the solution to all of lifes problems.
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Quote: , originally posted by The Droogan Leader » I had terrible insomnia for the last 3-4 months that I recently got over.
What really helped me was:
1.
Set the time on your alarm that you want to wake up at, and wake up at that time for a month straight NO MATTER WHAT.
2.
DO NOT force yourself to go to bed if you are not tired, that's how you develop "sleep anxiety" (exactly what I had).
You'll just lie there awake thinking, and you'll start to relate stress with your bed.
3.
Try to make your room as dark as possible, this helps speed up your body's release of Melatonin which is what makes you sleepy.
4.
No computer (or TV, depending on what you watch) 1 hour to 30 minutes before you usually fall asleep.
Two reasons: one, the bright glare of a monitor or television makes your body think it's still daylight, and it won't want to release melatonin.
Two, the computer will "wake up" your mind, and will take it that much longer to relax again.
Go read a book, you probably should be doing that anyways.
5.
Over the counter sleep aids suck ass.
I tried everything I could to get over my sleep anxiety (Ambien, Tylenol PM, getting hammered off vodka, etc.) Some worked, but I still felt like shit.
6.
Try not to eat RIGHT before you go to bed, the digestion will keep you up.
7.
Try to limit overall stress if you can.
Those are the things that helped me, and I had a BAD bout of insomnia for those 4 months and thought I was fucked forever.
I realize you don't have the same problem, but the same principles I used for going to bed can be applied to all aspects of sleep.
Good info .
I've done a bunch of those things and they've helped me a lot.
Especially the sleep anxiety.
I just get up and read if I can't sleep.
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No one said rub one out yet?
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Quote: , originally posted by The Droogan Leader » I had terrible insomnia for the last 3-4 months that I recently got over.
What really helped me was:
1.
Set the time on your alarm that you want to wake up at, and wake up at that time for a month straight NO MATTER WHAT.
2.
DO NOT force yourself to go to bed if you are not tired, that's how you develop "sleep anxiety" (exactly what I had).
You'll just lie there awake thinking, and you'll start to relate stress with your bed.
3.
Try to make your room as dark as possible, this helps speed up your body's release of Melatonin which is what makes you sleepy.
4.
No computer (or TV, depending on what you watch) 1 hour to 30 minutes before you usually fall asleep.
Two reasons: one, the bright glare of a monitor or television makes your body think it's still daylight, and it won't want to release melatonin.
Two, the computer will "wake up" your mind, and will take it that much longer to relax again.
Go read a book, you probably should be doing that anyways.
5.
Over the counter sleep aids suck ass.
I tried everything I could to get over my sleep anxiety (Ambien, Tylenol PM, getting hammered off vodka, etc.) Some worked, but I still felt like shit.
6.
Try not to eat RIGHT before you go to bed, the digestion will keep you up.
7.
Try to limit overall stress if you can.
Those are the things that helped me, and I had a BAD bout of insomnia for those 4 months and thought I was fucked forever.
I realize you don't have the same problem, but the same principles I used for going to bed can be applied to all aspects of sleep.
Damn thats very useful right there
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Quote: , originally posted by pearl » no one said rub one out yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEhKZNQlJrY
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Some good info in here.
I will definitely 2nd the no smoking before bed.
I've noticed that the nights I don't grab a smoke right before I go to sleep I seem to fall asleep faster & I sleep better.
My problem is getting into a schedule.
I have class on Tuesday at 11:30 AM.
Thursday at 11:30 & 4.
Work 4-12:30 Friday & Saturday, 4-10:30 on Sunday, then 8AM-7:30PM on Monday.
If I could get to the point where I'm going to sleep around 12-1 I'd be set.
I think my biggest problem is that I always decide to stay up & see what's on TV, even if there's nothing worth watching.
And I've been practicing not stressing if I can't sleep.
That just makes you angry & makes it so you can't sleep at all.
I start thinking about things that either make me happy or I just let my mind trip out with some wild ass day dream.
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