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The Problems I've noticed In the So-Called "Kenyan Birth Certificate" - Democratic Underground
These were just upon first glance and took me a total of about 20 minutes to find:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265
1) The photograph has three resolutions embedded.
The highest resolution is for the paper.
The second highest resolution is the fabric background.
The lowest resolution is the text.
2) Mis-spelled the name of the village that Obama's father was born in as "Kanyadhinng" instead of Kanyadhiang".
3) Gave the age of Obama's father as "26".
He was born in 1936 and thus could not have been older than "25".
4) The certificate number is given as "47,044" which is remarkable considering that Barack Hussein Obama was 47 years old when he was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States.
5) Most damning of all, the font used is Schmutz, which was invented in 1995.
Post any of the problems you see here.
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"Republic of Kenya" was not declared until after the date on the document
Document is a reproduced copy, birthers had a problem with that with Obama's COLB, this is no better (in addition to the fact it's a forgery)
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Dated Feb. 17th 1964.
Oh and it was posted on World Net Daily too.
Besides where is the person telling me that he has 2.5 million in Gold Bonds and just needs $3,500 in cash to get the
paperwork done ....
But he is a Prince and will split the money w/ me after send him the money to help w/ the forms.
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And the M$M are. You are correct Kenya was not a Nation until Dec.
1964, so how was a Kenyan Birth Certificate issued on Feb.
17, 1964. This in itself should give lie to the rumor.
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And it's fun to point out how baltant the forger was in the forgery.
Embedding the 47,044 joke?
This is some high comedy right here!
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The Freeps are totally hook line and sinker of course their celebration threads are a giggle.
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Only problem is, the "Somewhere That's Green" is her face.
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This one needs to go back to Russia.
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To deliver the birth (which is all the way on the east side of Kenya, when his family lived all the way on the west side of Kenya.
Nairobi would have been the logical choice to go to in such a situation.
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" {Mombasa} is located on Mombasa Island, which is separated from the mainland by two creeks: Tudor Creek and Kilindini Harbour."
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Even after it has been folded.
And it is a copy.
I didn't think they put seals on copies??
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Know it's the real thing.
Notary publics use their seal when they notarize a copy of something.
They are verifying that it is a true and correct COPY of another document, not that the original is legit, FYI.
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Signed in a space within the stamp...
Then signed a book issuing the stamp and I signed the book.
It must be new for FL..
Just a few years ago it was a stamp that dented the paper.
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How do you get paper to hold up like that?
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For 45 years the paper would have been discolored yellowed at least around the edges/folds.
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Must really suck for you to be so powerless.
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Suck it birthers
"Obviously Obama was born in both Kenya AND Hawaii, and is thus qualified to be President of the World."
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---- only photoshopped text would have that noise around it.
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You'll see similar noise between the fabric background and the paper, which indicates the background is a slightly lower resolution than the paper.
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All of that sparkly stuff everywhere the type is.
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Take a look at the district to the right of the 47O44 - same round O
Whoever typed this used the letter "O" in the document number and it matches the same "O" in the district (to the right of it)
The letter O is rounder than the number 0
This is from the legal document filed by Orly.
Notice the letter "O" in her first name and compare it to the number listed right below her name (The box number).
The "O" in her name is much rounder but the zeros are much narrower "0"
Someone played a GO0F of the birthers but they haven't figured that one out yet
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And the fucking idiot Freep-holios bought it!
LOL...
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To: HelenaGrace
The 47O44 looks really suspicious.
Yep, in his 47th year 0 became the 44th president of USA.
But then, God has a good sense of humor, too.
We'll just have to wait and see where this will end.
3,161 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:55:02 PM by nightlight7
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Somebody sure is playing her for a sucker.
I love it.
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Some old typewriters didn't have a 1 or a zero;
You used a lowercase L or uppercase I for the 1 and an uppercase O for a zero.
It's possible the person who forged this knew this and used the "correct" characters you'd use on an ancient typewriter.
I like how he smudged the "96" in the middle of Obama's birth year, but didn't tamper with the two ones (or lowercase L's, as the case may be) that flank it.
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But the Freepers think the explanation for that number is probably just 'prophetic'!
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Or at least some of it would have been.
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Kiswahili is the national language and English the official language.
That means the government business and education are conducted in English, while Swahili is the most widely spoken language.
In addition to these two languages, most of the people in Kenya also speak what they would call their "mother tongue" - the language that they grew up speaking.
While an increasing number of city-dwellers are growing up speaking English, most rural people speak their tribal languages.
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I thought it was odd the deputy registrar's name is listed as Mr.
Miller.
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I mean, all I had to do was look at the thing.
No work to it at all.
Now, if somebody were to actually WORK at it, I'm sure all kinds of other things can be found.
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Registras name is E.P.
Lavender. It sounds strange.
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Lavender - earth friendly lavender is a detergent.
LOL
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Lavender laundry detergent yesterday at the grocery store.
And you know what?
It is Earth Friendly too!
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E.F. LAVENDER ECOS LIQ LAUNDRY, 50oz
see more like 'E.F.
LAVENDER ECOS LIQ LAUNDRY, 50oz'
Average Price:$7 Value and performance have not always been qualities of environmentally-responsible products.
But, ECOS, a concentrated liquid laundry detergent provides better price performance than the competition.
ECOS cleans a full laundry load with only two ounces, Can be used in front loading and HE machines.
It has a built-in soy based fabric softener and cellulose based optical brightener.
Brand: Earth Friendly
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Maybe his high school band instructor?
The forger certainly had a good time with this.
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Of Mr. Miller's Toonzone?
http://www.gamecreature.com/toonzone /
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Mr. Miller Goes to Washington Starring Dennis Miller (1988) (TV)
This comedy special shows what was to become of Dennis Miller- 2 great TV shows, several movies and a 5 year stinch on Saturday Night Live as a newscaster (the best behind Norm MacDonald).
He brings his great comedy to the stage, showing he has had practice in his years on the road (this was later made into an album called the Off-white album).
Here, he rants about his days in the south (and a club called I don't get its), the International house of pancakes, a-holes, and many other things.
Fun, but not for the dumb people who won't get it (like the people in the South, no offense).
A
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249466/usercomments
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Wouldn't they be listed under a kenya address if president obama was born there?
One says hawaii and the other is kansas.
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It could be a joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Simon
Joshua Simon directed 4 short movies with Baboon Group, including The Radicals and City Hole.
Simon published the poetry book National Citizens.
In the first issue of Ma'ayan he published a list called "The Prince" exploring his life and views on the world from A to Z.
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This thing is filled with Easter Eggs.
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In Australia.
In 1915.
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticleJpg/15363...
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...and the entire Lavender family in Britain and its possessions was neutered by 1920...
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I hope the perpetrator comes forward and lists all the errors he put it in as signs that it was a fraud.
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Amazing how this document has survived all these years without a blemish and someone accidentally spills a bit of their Snickers bar on it...
Maybe they're covering up a typo?
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If only Dr House was here, the red tint may signify that the person has a rare blood condition with only days to live.
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Not a "signature" beside "Signature of Registrar."
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Http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090802084...
That's obviously a forgery.
It says "certified copy of registration of birth" when REAL Kenyan birth certificates say, "Authentic registration of birth".
I know this because I'm an Kenyan obstetrician.
4 hours ago
Look at the orientation of the letters
If you draw lines toward the horizon point of convergence, you see that this is obviously a FAKE.
4 hours ago
The bright dots surrounding all the text indicates very poor photoshopping.
Source(s):
Previous experience with photoshop.
2 hours ago
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Because (Gee? Yah think?) Orly Taitz says it is!??!?!?!
(What an authority!
NOT.)
All it's going to take is another hour or two before someone on this series of tubes posts a real Kenyan BC and it will be obvious this is a fabrication.
My only hope: that that dyed plantinum blonde dentist wannabe lawyer Taitz forked over some coin for this.
Ha, ha!
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MR. Miller is listed as District Registrar.
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Did Orly Taitz actually file this in court?
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Wasn't ceded to Kenya until December 12, 1963, so BArack Hussein Obama could not have been born in Mombasa, Kenya as there was no Mombasa Kenya on August 4, 1961.
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This gets funnier and funnier.
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Where I lived. They made a great deli lunch, there, too.
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Wiki confirms....
"Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa
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I hope whoever did this is reading the freepers.
He must be drowning in tears.
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Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa
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And appears to be a photoshop addition or a forged recent signature.
It looks out of place (as do other elements of the document).
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B-Rock "the Islamic Shock" Hussein Superallah Obama.
LOL
This is some seriously hilarious stuff.
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You owe me a new keyboard.
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But mainly, I wet my pants.
--d!
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I am dying laughing at this!!!
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Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Oduya
Whoever made this was just full of jokes.
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Johnny Oduya is KEnyan-Swedish!
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This whole thing is so funny.
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Oh, this just gets better and better.
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I haven't really followed any of the birth cert stuff.
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It's an exhibit (the photograph, NOT the document depicted in the photograph) in a filing she made yesterday.
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To: Scanian
That Dunham chin is unmistakeable.
It is also the best identifying characteristic on Annies naked pictures.
It's the jawline -- long and narrow.
Stanley Ann has it as does her father AND her son.
Compare photos of Obama with Barack Sr.
And there's virtually no resembling characteristic.
His face and facial features are round.
Now, compare photos of Obama with Malcolm X and there's more "there" there, including skin color, forehead shape, skeletal body structure.
Listen to X's voice, compare to Obama's vocal intonation.
Just sayin...
http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/2009/06/i-dont-know-wh...
IF I had to guess, I'd say Stanley Ann wasn't quite sure whose sperm hit the egg, so she rolled the dice on Obama Sr.
2,675 posted on Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:15:19 PM by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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No signatures of either parent on the signature line.
E.
F. Lavender didn't sign it either.
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MR. Miller's signature always appears to be typewritten as "E.F.
Lavender" in Schmutz font.
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All of the other detes that give Birthers their "reasons" for not accepting his real BC from Hawaii.
They are idiots!
I hope this has caused them to flood Taitz with donations -- less money for them to donate to the midterm elections next year!
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Hospitals like to give new parents (well, at least they did) this great big certificate with footprints and a bunch of other shit on it, but said certificate isn't legally valid.
Know what IS legally valid today?
The short form Certificate of Live Birth the president already made public.
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All of my doctors and dentist offices had them growing up.
Some serious creativity went into this, and the flat birthers actually bought this, hook, line, and sinker.
UN-freakin-believable.
Once again, an example that their collective stupidity has absolutely no bounds.
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This is obviously a modern one but it does make you wonder about what questions weren't put on the fake one...
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As Barack Hussein II, but he's supposed to be a Muslim not a Christian, and Barack Hussein is a Muslim name not a Christian name.
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The term "Christian name" was used for "full name"
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Was just playing freeper.
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Barack is the 44th president.
Trying to figure out the Easter Egg left in Page 5733.
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5733 is a Hebrew year that started in the evening before September 9, 1972 and ended on September 26, 1973.
This year has 383 days.
It is a leap year in the Hebrew Metonic cycle, with two Adar months - Adar I and Adar II.
It is a Shmita year.
In year 5733, State of Israel celebrated 25 years of independence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5733_ (Hebrew_year)
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Http://maps.uchicago.edu/eastquad/centers.html
Centers for Gender/Race Studies
5733 South University Avenue
Chicago, IL 60637
Or this:
http://www.coinnews.net/coin-legislation/hr-5733-glacie...
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H.R. 5733: Glacier National Park Commemorative Coin Act
To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint and issue coins commemorating the 100th anniversary of the establishment of Glacier National Park, and for other purposes.
Freeper thread is now over 5,300 comments.
Despite all the evidence that it is a fraud, they are still hopeful and only awaiting Oily's word that it has been 'authenticated'.
Apparently she is at this moment, in London ~ where hopefully someone will take pity on her and get her to one of their free mental health clinics for evaluation.
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Don't know the significance of the number, but having seen lots of Deed Books and the like, there aren't 6,000 pages per Book.
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The hoaxter has embedded numerous easter eggs.
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Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa
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Http://fiftyseventhirtythree.wordpress.com /
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Http://www.dcclifecare.com/error-codes/error-5733.html
Causes of Error 5733
These are critical Windows errors caused by missing system files or broken corrupt data.
This should be fixed immediately to prevent further damage to hardware and applications on your computer.
Failing to repair the problem can result in system crashes, loss of data, and hardware failure.
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Cute
Someone took some time with the fake numbers.
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This is seriously high comedy.
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Didn't find anything significant about that date in Obama's life, but May 7, 1933 is the day FDR delivered his fireside chat outlining the New Deal.
Doesn't really have anything to do with Obama, but I found it interesting.
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Contents of that fireside are little more parallel that one could imagine.
Here are a couple of paragraphs"
May 7, 1933
Radio Address of the President
On a Sunday night a week after my Inauguration I used the radio to tell you about the banking crisis and the measures we were taking to meet it.
I think that in that way I made clear to the country various facts that might otherwise have been misunderstood and in general provided a means of understanding which did much to restore confidence.
Tonight, eight weeks later, I come for the second time to give you my report -- in the same spirit and by the same means to tell you about what we have been doing and what we are planning to do.
Two months ago we were facing serious problems.
The country was dying by inches.
It was dying because trade and commerce had declined to dangerously low levels;
Prices for basic commodities were such as to destroy the value of the assets of national institutions such as banks, savings banks, insurance companies, and others.
These institutions, because of their great needs, were foreclosing mortgages, calling loans, refusing credit.
Thus there was actually in process of destruction the property of millions of people who had borrowed money on that property in terms of dollars which had had an entirely different value from the level of March, 1933.
That situation in that crisis did not call for any complicated consideration of economic panaceas or fancy plans.
We were faced by a condition and not a theory.
There were just two alternatives: The first was to allow the foreclosures to continue, credit to be withheld and money to go into hiding, and thus forcing liquidation and bankruptcy of banks, railroads and insurance companies and a recapitalizing of all business and all property on a lower level.
This alternative meant a continuation of what is loosely called "deflation", the net result of which would have been extraordinary hardship on all property owners and, incidentally, extraordinary hardships on all persons working for wages through an increase in unemployment and a further reduction of the wage scale.
<snip>
It is wholly wrong to call the measure that we have taken Government control of farming, control of industry, and control of transportation.
It is rather a partnership between Government and farming and industry and transportation, not partnership in profits, for the profits would still go to the citizens, but rather a partnership in planning and partnership to see that the plans are carried out.
Just a little co-inkydink
http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/050733.html
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. . . and it's EELS.
I can't see any significance to that, though.
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Why would a predominately Muslim country call it a Christian name?
Oh, I know it might have been a holdover from Empire, but I really can't see it persisting after 1964 when the Republic was founded.
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Christian-Protestant 45% (This includes the Anglican Church of Kenya)
Roman Catholic 33%
Islam 10%
Indigenous religions 10%
Other 2%
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Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIHP9o6X6D8&feature=rela...
LOL
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The "4" has an open top in Schmutz
http://www.fonthaus.com/products/fonts/fontfind.cfm?sea...
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It's not a typeface of a typewriter, though.
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5733 Annual Report of the Kenya National Assembly for the Year Ended 31st December 1964
http://www.sabinesbooks.com/AfricaGovernmentPublication...
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Greed and bigotry are great motivators....worth taking the risk to look like a fool, n'est-ce pas?
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Somebody has PWN3D Oily Tightz.
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Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXwOj7ncLco
LMAO, love him or hate him the guy makes me laugh, im not sure if hes serious or just an act but my god does he make me laugh.
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45-year-old African-made paper would be yellow by now.
I seriously doubt the Deputy Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages in the Coast Province of Kenya was buying pH-buffered paper.
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The Easter Eggs are too delicious to go into the physicaly problems.
Like the fold lines.
Why would you fold it like that?
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I was thinking at first that the guy who forged this first did a standard letterfold, then folded it in half twice to create the vertical lines.
Not so--this is a "M" or "W" fold.
Look at them--up, down, up instead of up, down, down.
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But if you look at how the other folds work out, after the standard letter fold they turned the document 90 degrees and did another pseudo-letter fold, followed by a fold down the middle.
Very weird.
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WND says it found "another birth certificate" to compare this to but under that statement is the same birth certificate.
They don't show the "other one" that this is supposed to be identical to.
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World NEt Daily claims a liot of shit.
Like they claim they never validated Obama's Birth Certificate when they did.
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Still tracking down the actual font, but it definitely ain't from a typewriter.
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Found a match yet.
Have you had any luck?
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There's enough easter eggs and then there's the original and all the Hawaiian officials for the truth of the matter.
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It's probably one of the hundreds of "typewriter" fonts.
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And blow off everything else, accepting this hoax as real...
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I'm guessing you looked at internal uniformity of like characters, such as the consistency of the capital A's throughout the document?
Have you found internal like characters that significantly differ from each other?
I'd think it is odd that someone wouldn't use a typewriter to produce a forgery.
I've got an old Underwood in the basement, and they aren't hard to come by.
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IT's a very obvious photoshop job.
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That someone would at least gin up a form and fill it out with a typewriter for the picture?
The fact that there are compression artifacts around the printing doesn't mean a whole lot.
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He was born in the USA, so it cannot possibly be authentic!
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But I'm looking for all the jokes the hoaxter included in the document.
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Because he was born in the US.
At least I hope DU doesn't have any birthers among its membership.
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The population of Mombasa, Kenya as of 1999 was only 707,400.
ETA: The current birth rate is 40 per 1000 residents.
Given that birth rate, there would be 28,296 births in Mobasa, Kenya in 1999.
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The guy doesn't have a first name?
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"Mr. Miller has agreed to....", but other than that, no.
It would never appear in a form like this.
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Http://orlytaitzesq.com/obama-certified-copy-of-registr...
Hahahah!!!!
Orly's got her name satmped all over it in purple!
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And clients! Just below the "complaint" posted on her blog is a solicitation for advertisers:
http://www.OrlyTaitzEsq.com/blog1 /
You can Advertise on Orlys blog!
July 31st, 2009
NOW AVAILABLE LIMITED ADVERTISING SPACE
Links or Top Posts in blog,
Contact Orly for more info;
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
1.949.683.5411
Are you going into foreclosure?
Call us, we might be able to help
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It has a distinctly familiar odor to it.
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Http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg19
Originally posted by tonygal
I figured she had something.
On Friday Orly posted all kinds of stuff on her blog asking about authenticating circa 1961 Kenyan birth records
Very important.
I need verification that E.
F. Lavender was British colonial registrar in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961.
July 31st, 2009 Posted in Uncategorized | 9 Comments
Very important
July 31st, 2009
1.
I need experts who can authenticate documents from Kenya.
2.
I need to find people who were born in Kenya in 1961 and have their birth certificate.
I need to see it, I need to see how it looks like.
3.
I need to know who was the British registrar in Mombasa in 1961.
If you have info, call me 949-XXX-XXXX.
No crank calls please, and be short, please.
I really dont have any time for stories
Source:
www.orlytaitzesq.com ...
Would it not be funny if E.
F. Lavender - was really an easter egg for washing powder?
REALLY GOOD BLOG ON THIS
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com /
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Should have been non-existent in 1961.
I worked for a Kenyan couple of English descent at one time in the late sixties.
They even fought the Mau Mau during the revolution before they immigrated to the USA.
They were very adamant that they were British subjects even though they were born in Kenya.
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Hes doubtful about it he claims, and thinks this woman is out to discredit the "Birther" movement lol.
He pointed out a few flaws and explained a comment made by Orly Taitz eluding to wanting to take Berg down.
There is in fighting with in the birthers lol i had no idea
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Berg is asking for a temporary order of protection against Orly.
But since Orly is off on vacation, maybe they've gotten it postponed.
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Orly is West Birfistan.
Berg is East Birfistan.
The battle's been raging for months.
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He's the Kenyan ambassador -- so that's " His Excellency, The Most Honorable Peter Ogego " for you muggs.
Mr.
Ogego is the man we should be asking about this.
I'm sure H.E. could use a good laugh.
It's quite the kewl website ==>
Kenya Embassy
--d!
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Faked the yellowcake letters.
At least their fake was a fake for a longer time period.
Oily Tightz?
I haven't been following the birther stuff that much - is this person the screecher?
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There is no official religion in Kenya, so why would the BC use a religious qualifier in front of "name"?
While the majority of Kenyans are Christian, about 10% are Muslim, with a concentration in the Mombasa/ coastal region.
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In England, your first name is your "Christian name".
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You don't hear it anymore, but it was common usage back then.
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And I really doubt that he was Deputy Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages for Kenya back in 1961.
Come to think of it, given that he was born in 1959, I'm not sure he was capable of signing his name by 1961.
Although if he'd been asked to, it might still have looked a lot like that.
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The flat birthers would get excited.
These have to be the most gullible and easiest scammed people on Earth (which also explains why so many sponsors still buy time on RW radio and TV).
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If you look at 44B47O44, the 47 tells you to add 4 + 7 = 11 which is really saying add 1 + 1 = 2 to the first 4, the middle 4 and the last 4 and what do you get?
6 6 6.
The B..O means B.O., which means sulfurous odor.
One more confirmation that Obama is the devil.
There.
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Http://theregulator.net/neonzx/extra/orly-kgo-radio-200...
(Orly Taitz has submitted the "Kenyan BC" to the court.)
KGO radio in the San Francisco Bay Area.
How does a person ramp up like this right out of the chute on a Sunday morning, without being frothing-at-the-mouth insane?
Well, you'll hear that she is frothing-at-the-mouth insane.
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One of the newspaper w/ his birth announcement in has printed
All information is from the Dept.
Of Health.
So the newspapers in Hawaii, the Hawaii Dept.
Of Health, and Obama's Grandparents were
all in planting false information in the newspapers in 1961 so Obama could become President
in 2008.
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. . . and incapable of speaking coherently.
When she's asked a question, she ignores it and just goes on some sort of gibberish rant.
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After all - you don't see a picture of him anywhere, do you!
I rest my case...
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C'mon, stop being a buzzkill
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SINCE Obama and the rest of his crew have had plenty of time to realize birthers exist.
And SINCE Obama and his crew know Birthers are extremists and that a Kenyan Birth certificate had being sought for some time.
Then IF Obama was born in Kenya, you think the original certificate would be obtainable?
No of course not.
Since Obama wasn't born in Kenya there was no need to hide anything.
Of course the Kenyan birth certificate is a forgery.
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They should have gone with that one, instead of this one:
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Ah, well, back to ridiculing the phreepers.
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Http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/02/the-latest-birthe...
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pnorman
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As Daily Kos pointed out, the Kenyan certificate says Obama was born on August 4, and that his birth was registered on August 5th, 1961.
August 5, 1961 was a Saturday, according to the historical calendar.
Http://arc.id.au/Calendar.html
Government offices would have been closed on Saturday, so how was the birth registered?
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. . . to signify the sacred feminine.
Yep, and the three folds, that look like the folds on the Shroud of Turin are obviously pointing to the fact that Christ, Mary Magdelene and their child sailed out of ancient Palestine and lived out their natural lives in the South of France!
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I would think that the "O" would be in perspective with the fold.
Instead it looks as though it was "copied" onto the document after the folds were placed.
Secondly, and this has nothing to do with the obvious photoshop job here but what if Obama's birth WAS registered in Kenya?
Has anyone asked the question about a Kenyan father "registering" his American born son's birth?
Doesn't negate the fact that he was born in Hawaii but maybe it's like wedding announcements.
You get married in Vegas but put the announcement in your hometown paper...
Just a thought.
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