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So You Think You Can Just Add a Clothesline to Your House? Dream on | Environment | AlterNet : environment
Why would anyone want to live in a place like that anyway?
Those subdivisions represent everything that sucks the soul out of humanity.
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Some people don't have all that much choice.
Depending on where you're looking, there are places where it's almost impossible to find a house without an HOA.
And sometimes, people tell themselves the HOA isn't a big deal, and by the time they find out otherwise, it's too late.
(I have a friend who thought her HOA wouldn't be a big deal until people from her HOA board started climbing over her 6' fence and going into her backyard and her garage looking for violations.)
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I'd shoot them for trespassing :-)
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Then she probably didn't read all the rules and the access easement granted for inspection by the HOA.
But climbing over the fence is a bit much, they should just ask or tell her first about the right to inspection that is part of the covenant she agreed to.
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Actually, she did.
Don't make assumptions like that.
They were entering property illegally and making a whole bunch of bogus claims because the HOA was run by nasty old coots who wanted to boss everyone else around.
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I have to admit that clotheslines in plain view look like crap.
I use indoor racks to dry my laundry.
Takes a bit longer though.
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Clotheslines in plain view look like crap.
Really?
Why?
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I'm not an aesthetic expert, I just associate clothes drying in plain view with very poor, white-trash-ish figures.
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That's really what I was asking.
It's interesting to me, because over here clotheslines aren't associated with poverty - I'd say most people use them.
Every place I've lived in with a garden has had facilities for putting a clothesline up, and some of those were quite nice places :-)
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Where do you live then?
I live in Sweden and I haven't seen many clothelines in plain view - even though it's a very green country ...
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I'm in the UK. Are you from Sweden originally?
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I love the looks of a clothesline with waving whites flying freely in a country breeze against the crisp blue sky.
I love the wooden clothes pins and the smell of the clothes once they are dried.
I love it so much, that I take photos of them.
I associate clotheslines with my grandma and her perfectly white crisp sheets.
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The problem is that people wash a lot more than just white sheets.
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Fight the HOA.. they're little bitches.
Smack em the fuck down.
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Years ago when DirecTV first came out and back with the HOAs where in bed with the cable companies and banning satellite dishes (before congress passed the law to allow them), I had a friend who had a dish but had one of those fake rocks to cover it with.
One day when he was out of town on business, some kids jumped his fence and decided to use his pool without permission.
In the process the kids knocked over the "rock" exposing the dish and never put it back.
His old bag neighbor saw it and started to get him evicted.
Fortunately for him, the rule was not banning the dish but having an "exposed" dish was banned (I guess others were doing the same thing he was).
He was also golfing buddies withe the HOA lawyer and threatened to make his house "unsellable" if he were evicted (as a former Marine, they believed him too!)
The point is HOAs tend to do stupid shit for no reason or just because they can.
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Evicted? Was the guy renting?
The usual process is a fine after a hearing.
If you don't pay the fine eventually HOAs can file a lien.
With the lien they can force a sale but I don't think that ever really happens.
After the sale the guy could get evicted since he wouldn't be the owner.
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My point was HOAs are a pain in the ass.
I have lived in communities with them and they suck.
And unless you are on one of their shitty little boards, I doubt people find them useful either.
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On the one hand, neighborhoods with home owners' associations tend to look consistency better than neighborhoods without them.
On the other hand, home owners' associations tend to be ruled by people with too much time on their hands, which often means that crazed old bitch down the street who blames everything on commies.
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When looking for a home recently, we discovered that the vast majority of HOAs in the Chicagoland area are strict.
Some would not allow you to plant flowers or gardens, change your oil in your driveway, put up clothes lines, have a composting bin, or erect a fence in your backyard.
It was ridiculous.
We asked why this was the case and the builders said that most people like it -- they don't have to mow their own lawns or landscape and the neighborhood always looks nice.
I think it looks empty, bleak, and conformist...which is why I voted with my money by not buying into a HOA.
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When everyone's laundry is out to dry, nobody gives a damn anymore.
What a corporate world we live in.
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Clothesline? People still use those?
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I do - when it's not raining, which it frequently does around here (Western Scotland).
The apartment building I'm about to move into has a whole bank of whirling clotheslines out in the back garden.
It's a totally standard practice over here.
What's the problem with it?
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After I bought a front washing machine, I started hanging all new 'main' clothes inside to dry.
Now I couldn't bear to put some of them in the dryer.
The textile and colors seem to last longer, jeans/pants are less stiff, seams/details don't shrink/deform in a permanent way, etc, etc.
I'd be afraid of putting clothes under the direct sun though, because of color fading.
Maybe the best solution would be a covered clothesline: no sun bleaching, works in the rain, better looks, better intimacy !
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You should welcome that sun bleaching on your whites.
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Is it common with a stigma against using a clothesline in America?
I have not heard about it elsewhere.
It may be more convenient to use a dryer, but except for that, what's the problem.
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