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Best martial art for self-defense?
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Muay Thai 9% [ 1 ] Kickboxing 0% [ 0 ] Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu 27% [ 3 ] Judo 0% [ 0 ] Karate 18% [ 2 ] Krav Maga 36% [ 4 ] Taekwondo 9% [ 1 ] Kung Fu 0% [ 0 ] Capoeira 0% [ 0 ] Total Votes : 11 Author Message BigRam13
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Location: Finland Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: Best martial art for self-defense?
I know there is no martial art that is "THE BEST", but I would like to see some opinions on this.
And sorry if I forget to add some martial arts to the poll.
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For self defense, the top two would probably have to be Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu.
You can either dominate standing (MT) or dominate on the ground (JJ).
Either way it doesn't matter because you're opponent is screwed.
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I'd go ahead and take Capoeira off the list...
Its completely energy inefficient, and it has terrible balance and striking speed.
Its really more of a dance than a fighting technique.
Replace it with Sambo IMO.
Thats what i would vote on.
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Krav Maga, IMO. Takes the most lethal aspects of just about every other form and combines it into a streamlined method that is tailored to have absolutely no mercy on your opponent...you more then stop your attacker, you maim and scar them.
There is also a form that I read about...Kui-Aluau, better known as Samoan Bone Breaking.
With a name like that...
Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do are both very inefficient, IMO.
TKD can have some pretty powerful strikes, but everything has to fall perfectly into place to land 'em.
Capoeira is a lot like Tai-Chi;
People like to quantify it as a "martial art" in the sense of a defense system, but it is more or less an exercise routine where you imitate striking blows.
Trying that stuff in real life would probably get you killed...
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Gun-Fu is the most effective, IMO.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLIOtBLqoU
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Quote: : Gun-Fu is the most effective, IMO.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLIOtBLqoU
LOL
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For Self Defense Judo isn't too bad either.
But I'd go with Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu as well.
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If you're looking to get into it, you're probably limited by location.
Even if you say krav maga is the best one (just a hypothecial), you have to see if the krav maga school near you (if there even is one) is really better than the judo school near you.
You have to pick the school where you feel you're going to learn the most.
Most martial arts work if taught correctly.
If I had to choose any form to learn: krav maga, jiu jitsu (Japanese...
Not sure what Brazillian jiu jitsu is), and judo would be my top choices.
Not a fan of muay thai but that's just me.
Stay away from kung fu...
Not becuase it is ineffective but just because it is more complex and difficult to master than most forms I believe
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Gotta be Krav Maga.
As for actual "self-defense", like trying to disable a guy holding a weapon or getting jumped by a group.
About 90% of the stuff they do would be considered a cheap shot in a street fight, but if you're fighting for you're life it's probably the most effective.
If you're talking what's the best technique to know if you're in a street fight, I think I'd say Muay Thai.
I've only been in a couple real fights in my life, but I learned quickly that BJJ isn't as effective as you'd think it is unless you're under ideal conditions.
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Quote: : Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do are both very inefficient, IMO.
TKD can have some pretty powerful strikes, but everything has to fall perfectly into place to land 'em.
I'm going to disagree with you here, at least with your reasoning for why Taekwondo is inefficient.
The fact that TKD emphasizes the use of feet as its main mode of self-defence takes advantage of the leg's greater reach and power compared to the arms.
In addition, actual self-defence techniques in Taekwondo are often unseen in competitions and the like because their main principle is to quickly incapacitate or injure your opponent, thus, scoring is non-existent when you're not striking blows.
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Quote: : Quote: : Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do are both very inefficient, IMO.
TKD can have some pretty powerful strikes, but everything has to fall perfectly into place to land 'em.
I'm going to disagree with you here, at least with your reasoning for why Taekwondo is inefficient.
The fact that TKD emphasizes the use of feet as its main mode of self-defence takes advantage of the leg's greater reach and power compared to the arms.
In addition, actual self-defence techniques in Taekwondo are often unseen in competitions and the like because their main principle is to quickly incapacitate or injure your opponent, thus, scoring is non-existent when you're not striking blows.
TKD and high kicks are garbage.
Too easily blocked, too easy to lose balance.
The only reason a high kick should be practiced is to gain strength and control for your low kicks.
most of those placed on the poll are not martial arts, but rather martial sports- Muay Thai, TKD, Kick Boxing...
Muay Thai is devastating- emphasis on the knees and elbows.
BJJ is good, but Jujitsu is better for self defense...
Its a lot cheaper.
BJJ was Jujitsu minus all of the incapacitating holds, such as finger breaks, etc.
Thats what makes it perfect for a sport.
Kenpo is awesome- especially if you can find a dojo that has updated the art for the times.
It is quite old and had many techniques used to attack people riding on horses, etc...
I had a kenpo instructor who not only taught us the techniques, but taught us how to incorporate the attacks into freestyle fighting.
Learning techniques is awesome, but you need to know how to use them/regular strikes too.
Aikido uses circular motions and allows you to fight many enemies at once.
I always wanted to take Aikido because ultimately, if you get jumped by two dudes, BJJ/Jujitsu, Judo, Sambo will only allow you to attack one of them at a time if you're grappling/wrestling with them.
Muay Thai is pretty deadly striking, but usually the focus of Muay Thai is on one opponent, as boxing and kickboxing are.
You usually don't want to mess with a boxer/Muay Thai practicioner, etc...
But Aikido practicioners are taught how to fight multiple opponents at once.
Krav Maga is a self defense combat form that is adapted to the times.
There are techniques on disarming guns/knives from people, etc.
I haven't seen it practiced, but I've heard it can be pretty dirty.
In self-defense, anything goes though.
I'm partial to Kenpo, and I've always wanted to try Aikido.
A grappling technique wouldn't be bad to learn (but I wrestled in high school, and you can usually pick up some basic submission techniques from simply watching and wrestling with your better wrestling/jujitsu friends).
Capoeira should be avoided unless you're extremely interested in Brazilian culture and dance/game/fighting.
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but Jiu-Jitsu is pretty much useless if you're attacked by more than 1 person.
However, in a 1 on 1 streetfight, if you got a solid wrestling base and know a few JJ finishes, the chances of you winning are extremely high.
Even with the popularity of the UFC, many "tough guys" out there still think that grappling is "gay," and don't know their arse from their elbow when put on their backs.
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Quote: : I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but Jiu-Jitsu is pretty much useless if you're attacked by more than 1 person.
However, in a 1 on 1 streetfight, if you got a solid wrestling base and know a few JJ finishes, the chances of you winning are extremely high.
Even with the popularity of the UFC, many "tough guys" out there still think that grappling is "gay," and don't know their arse from their elbow when put on their backs.
I agree.
You do need to be able to fight while on the ground.
Many 1 on 1 fights will go to the ground.
You also need to be able to take on many opponents, and if you get on the ground with many opponents, most likely you will fail, no matter your discipline.
In the real world, you won't always be fighting one person like you will be in the cage.
Aikido, Kenpo, Krav Maga teach self defense.
Others do also, but I'd stray away from TKD, Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, BJJ, JiuJitsu, Judo, Sambo if you are only looking for one.
To create the best self defense discipline, it would probably use techniques from Kenpo and Krav Maga for real life dangerous situations, Aikido for fighting many, and Jiu-Jitsu/Wrestling/BJJ/Sambo for ground fighting/throws.
Muay Thai training to learn how to mix in deadly knee and elbow strikes would also be helpful.
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Quote: : I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but Jiu-Jitsu is pretty much useless if you're attacked by more than 1 person.
Lol, yup.
If you try to pull guard in the middle of a bar, the guy you're trying to put to sleep can easily have one of his boys come up and stomp on your face while you're on the ground.
Keep BJJ for in the cage/ring, not in the streets.
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