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Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart - NeoGAF
Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart: Interview
Quote: : Its a period of incredible change, says the director of The Godfather and Apocalypse Now. We used to think of six, seven big film companies.
Every one of them is under great stress now.
Probably two or three will go out of business and the others will just make certain kind of films like Harry Potter -- basically trying to make Star Wars over and over again, because its a business.
Coppola, 70, sporting a dark suit, is being interviewed in the Lebanese capital Beirut, where his latest movie Tetro opened the Beirut Film Festival after premiering at the Cannes Film Festival this year.
Cinema is losing the publics interest, says Coppola, because there is so much it has to compete with to get peoples time.
The profusion of leisure activities;
The availability of movies on copied DVD and on the Internet;
And news becoming entertainment are reshaping the industry, he says.
Companies have combined businesses as customers turn to cheap downloads rather than visit shops or movie theaters.
I think the cinema is going to live off into something more related to a live performance in which the filmmaker is there, like the conductor of an opera used to be, Coppola says.
Cinema can be interactive, every night it can be a little different.
Sitting on a red velvet sofa, surrounded by stone statues of Greek figures in the lobby of the Albergo hotel, Coppola says he did not direct for a decade until 2007 when Youth Without Youth was released: He spent that period working on abortive projects and readjusting to changes in the film industry.
Wines, Hotels
The director, who aside from his Californian winery has also been active in the publishing and hotel business, does not elaborate on future projects or say whether he plans to experiment in other industries.
I dont make a living anymore, I dont have a job, Im not trying to have a career, Im not trying to be rich, Im just trying to learn, he says.
Tetro, which is based on an original screenplay, tells the story of a young man of Italian descent who sets off to Buenos Aires to reconnect with his long-lost older brother.
I always hoped, even when I was younger, to do films that were original screenplays and more personal.
My career changed a lot when I made The Godfather because it became so successful, Coppola says.
While the Godfather films scooped Oscars, he still has challenges in getting sponsors for some projects.
He financed Tetro with revenue from his vineyard in California.
Now, at this age, Im doing what I wanted to do when I was 22, Coppola says.
Civil War
Coppola moves on to discuss Lebanon: Beirut is the symbol of a sophisticated cosmopolitan city damaged by civil war and political differences but its very regenerative.
The filmmaker also tells of his interest in Middle-East history and the relation between east and west. He is intrigued about the conflict between Irans ruling elites after the Junes re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad which led to days of mass protests.
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Quote: : Now, at this age, Im doing what I wanted to do when I was 22, Coppola says.
I think that's both horribly sad and awesome.
Can a dream remain untainted and unchanged for so long?
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Maybe great movies are harder to find now because you need to wade through so much crap but movie lovers will always seek them out.
Maybe he's just pining for the days when the movies were the biggest and classiest thing in entertainment.
Tough shit, pops.
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He's been peddling these same comments for a while now.
Best interview with him about it recently would be in the anniversary issue of Empire released a few months ago.
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Originally Posted by akachan ningen : Maybe great movies are harder to find now because you need to wade through so much crap but movie lovers will always seek them out.
Maybe he's just pining for the days when the movies were the biggest and classiest thing in entertainment.
Tough shit, pops.
Even with other mediums catching up, movies still are the biggest, and without a shadow of a doubt, the classiest thing in entertainment.
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Originally Posted by Krev : Even with other mediums catching up, movies still are the biggest, and without a shadow of a doubt, the classiest thing in entertainment.
Are we not including literature here?
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He could not be more wrong, this is just another case of a old person going "It was better in my time"
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Originally Posted by akachan ningen : Maybe great movies are harder to find now because you need to wade through so much crap but movie lovers will always seek them out.
Maybe he's just pining for the days when the movies were the biggest and classiest thing in entertainment.
Tough shit, pops.
What? He's saying that he digs it because now he can make whatever he wants.
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Originally Posted by John Dunbar : Are we not including literature here?
I didn't think of literature because it was around in the past that akachan ningen was referring to.
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Maybe its because he is a horrible director now.
Guy hasn't done anything good in almost 30 years.
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Originally Posted by esbern : maybe its because he is a horrible director now.
Guy hasn't done anything good in almost 40 years.
What'd you think of Tetro?
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A better question would be when the hell is Tetro getting an international release?
It hasn't been on any Australian film circuits.
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Godfather III says 'Hello'.
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For a start we won't see one of the 'big six' studios go to the wall (but Paramount is on the shakest ground) but corporate consolidation could soon see a few 'folded into one another'.
Bascially the big boys (Warner Bros, Disney, Fox) will get bigger and the smaller boys will either get smaller or swallowed up completely.
For me, the lowest point of this current remake/reboot trend was the announcement of a potential Monopoly film and then, like an article from The Onion, the article in Variety about an Asteriods movie.
Both are from Universal and both should cause everyone involved to hang their heads in shame.
The problem with the modern studio system is that films are becoming more and more expensive to market.
That's why studios are looking for more known 'brands'.
You could spend $200m on a summer 'event movie', but the studio could then spend that amount again on the worldwide advertising costs.
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Originally Posted by typhonsentra : So?
He's redeemed himself now.
See: Tetro.
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Originally Posted by Busty : For me, the lowest point of this current remake/reboot trend was the announcement of a potential Monopoly film and then, like an article from The Onion, the article in Variety about an Asteriods movie.
Both are from Universal and both should cause everyone involved to hang their heads in shame.
So what do you think about Candy Land, Battleship, Stretch Armstrong and Viewmaster?
All properties that studios bought the rights to in the past year in multi-million dollar deals.
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Originally Posted by typhonsentra : Your point being?
He was a director for hire on that movie.
He said he did that movie purely because he needed the money.
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Originally Posted by akachan ningen : Maybe great movies are harder to find now because you need to wade through so much crap but movie lovers will always seek them out.
Maybe he's just pining for the days when the movies were the biggest and classiest thing in entertainment.
Tough shit, pops.
I'm not even sure where to begin to look to figure out how you got that out of what was written.
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Originally Posted by Krev : So what do you think about Candy Land, Battleship, Stretch Armstrong and Viewmaster?
All properties that studios bought the rights to in the past year in multi-million dollar deals.
I was really covering Universal's whole, multi year deal with Hasbro when I mentioned Monopoly.
In fact, all of those projects barring (IIRC) Viewmaster are based at Univeral.
Apparently Universal sees their deal with Hasbro as their equivalent of a DC or Marvel Comics.
Hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
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Originally Posted by RevenantKioku : I'm not even sure where to begin to look to figure out how you got that out of what was written.
My head hurts.
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Hollywood goes in phases.
Bigger studios were going bankrupt back in his day too.
The biggest change is that Hollywood is competing against shows like The Sopranos, The Wire and Mad Men.
Back in Coppola's day he competed against Starsky and Hutch and Dukes of Hazzard.
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Originally Posted by Busty : I was really covering Universal's whole, multi year deal with Hasbro when I mentioned Monopoly.
In fact, all of those projects barring (IIRC) Viewmaster are based at Univeral.
Apparently Universal sees their deal with Hasbro as their equivalent of a DC or Marvel Comics.
Hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Maybe I'm putting too much faith in today's audiences, but I have a feeling that when these projects start getting released the toy connection will actually hinder their box office potential.
To any sane person, any of these projects will sound astoundingly stupid and I get the feeling Joe Average will feel equally stupid handing over money to see them.
I initially laughed when I heard that Transformers was becoming a live-action megablockbuster (and it's still a little bit funny), but that at least had an established plot and characters that a sizable amount of people remember and care about.
What exactly does 'Asteroids' have going for it?
What's astounding is that the writer of View-Master says that he was initially working on an original script, before Bob Kurtzman and Roberto Orci thought that the story fit perfectly with the View-Master property.
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I find it hard to believe that any story worth telling is a perfect fit with the specifics of 'View-Master', and
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I think they killed the project's box office potential and drove up its budget it one fell swoop.
Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
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Originally Posted by Krev : Maybe I'm putting too much faith in today's audiences, but I have a feeling that when these projects start getting released the toy connection will actually hinder their box office potential.
To any sane person, any of these projects will sound astoundingly stupid and I get the feeling Joe Average will feel equally stupid handing over money to see them.
I share the same hope, I really do.
The very idea of a film based on something like Asteroids actually offends me.
At least Transformers and even He-Man have an established narrative.
What does Monopoly have?
What does Asteroids have?
It doesn't even have a fucking third dimension!
Asteroids doesn't even have a good title.
I mean would anyone seriously go and see sci-fi film with a title like Asteroids.
Originally Posted by Krev : What's astounding is that the writer of View-Master says that he was initially working on an original script, before Bob Kurtzman and Roberto Orci thought that the story fit perfectly with the View-Master property.
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I find it hard to believe that any story worth telling is a perfect fit with the specifics of 'View-Master', and
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I think they killed the project's box office potential and drove up its budget it one fell swoop.
Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
Viewmaster does seem such a bizarre choice.
But I heard ages ago about someone writing a spec script which focused on a Magic Eight-Ball.
On it's own that might be quite cute if it's a Liar, Liar esque fantasy comedy.
But in this current market it's horribly cliched.
I mean seriously, what the fuck is next?
Boggle?
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Originally Posted by Busty :
I mean seriously, what the fuck is next?
Boggle?
Chutes and Ladders up in this bitch.
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Originally Posted by Busty : Asteroids doesn't even have a good title.
I mean would anyone seriously go and see sci-fi film with a title like Asteroids.
Oh man, I'm dying with laughter here.
I can just see the marketing now.
Originally Posted by Busty : Viewmaster does seem such a bizarre choice.
But I heard ages ago about someone writing a spec script which focused on a Magic Eight-Ball.
Heh, I remember that.
As you say, too many films like that already.
It would probably end up like a cross between the upcoming The Beaver and The Invention of Lying.
Originally Posted by Busty : I mean seriously, what the fuck is next?
Boggle? Why not? It's no crazier than View-Master.
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There are a lot of great low budget films that do extremely well.
Gran Torino being one example.
I don't know what he is wining about.
It is the network TV people that are definitely dying.
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Movies have sucked ass the last couple of years anyway...
Some great ones, but in most cases it was the same shit we have been seeing for years and years.
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam : Hollywood goes in phases.
Bigger studios were going bankrupt back in his day too.
The biggest change is that Hollywood is competing against shows like The Sopranos, The Wire and Mad Men.
Back in Coppola's day he competed against Starsky and Hutch and Dukes of Hazzard.
That's a strange selection of shows to use as example of competition.
Mad Men and The Wire aren't exactly pulling in Friends or American Idol numbers in ratings.
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Originally Posted by akachan ningen : Maybe great movies are harder to find now because you need to wade through so much crap but movie lovers will always seek them out.
Maybe he's just pining for the days when the movies were the biggest and classiest thing in entertainment.
Tough shit, pops.
What the fuck are you babbling about.
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I think Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart because Francis Ford Coppola's Cinema World Is Falling Apart.
Dude needs to make better movies from time to time.
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Originally Posted by John Dunbar : That's a strange selection of shows to use as example of competition.
Mad Men and The Wire aren't exactly pulling in Friends or American Idol numbers in ratings.
I don't think we're talking about ratings/sales but just prestige.
If we were simply talking about sales then Hollywood is actually going through a bit of a revival right now.
If we are talking about perception of quality then I think the point stands.
TV back then didn't pull in shows that gained respect and admiration the way movies did at the time.
"Serious" directors wouldn't work in television back then.
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Originally Posted by SpeedingUptoStop : I think Francis Ford Coppola Sees Cinema World Falling Apart because Francis Ford Coppola's Cinema World Is Falling Apart.
Dude needs to make better movies from time to time.
Pretty much, he simply hasn't been able to evolve alongside the industry like the other old veterans have.
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Originally Posted by typhonsentra : I don't think we're talking about ratings/sales but just prestige.
If we were simply talking about sales then Hollywood is actually going through a bit of a revival right now.
If we are talking about perception of quality then I think the point stands.
TV back then didn't pull in shows that gained respect and admiration the way movies did at the time.
"Serious" directors wouldn't work in television back then.
I considered the possibility that he might be talking about artistic competition, but his first line was about the possible bankruptcies of the studios, so I assumed he was talking about financial competition.
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Coppola, keep making pizzas for your guests at your mansion and give up.
It's been a lost battle since Gardens of Stone
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Theater crowd can be annoying, plus you have this whole torrent I'm entitled, most movies suck now mentality with way too many people.
Actually maybe the best thing to happen is some kind of legit download for movie launches in the future.
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Originally Posted by Anasui Kishibe : Coppola, keep making pizzas for your guests at your mansion and give up.
It's been a lost battle since Gardens of Stone
Fuck that noise, Dracula shits all over Gardens of Stone.
Hell, while its the worse in the series by a couple billion miles, The Godfather Part 3 is better than Gardens of Stone.
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Expect to see more of these types of comments with Avatar releasing soon.
Interestingly, Coppola's old pal, George Lucas, tried to recapture the magic of Star Wars and failed miserably.
He then tried to recapture the magic of Indiana Jones with Coppola's other pal, Spielberg, and look what happened there.
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Originally Posted by harSon : Fuck that noise, Dracula shits all over Gardens of Stone.
Hell, while its the worse in the series by a couple billion miles, The Godfather Part 3 is better than Gardens of Stone.
yeah, not saying Dracula is worse than GOS.
GOS is just so goddamn bad.
still far from the best Coppolas, which weren't a lot actually
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Originally Posted by John Dunbar : That's a strange selection of shows to use as example of competition.
Mad Men and The Wire aren't exactly pulling in Friends or American Idol numbers in ratings.
No, I'm definitely talking about artistic competition and also the perceptions of the public which has an influence on their viewing habits.
I credit ER and NYPD Blue for getting the ball rolling in this direction and others picking it up and running with it.
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Wut? Francis Ford Coppola to say Oil based paint art falling apart.
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Originally Posted by Anasui Kishibe : yeah, not saying Dracula is worse than GOS.
GOS is just so goddamn bad.
still far from the best Coppolas, which weren't a lot actually
Oh, guess I misinterpreted :P
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