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RadioandTelly Forum - HOW TO SEND YAHOO MAIL with your I-P at top speed

I feel as if i've rediscovered the I-Player's Holy Grail. For a long time now it has been impossible to compose emails with Yahoo.

All you were presented with was a greyed out text area which did not accept input from the I-P. The Yahoo Mail page was annoyingly glitchy in loading.

It took forever to target the cursor with the layout bouncing and shifting around.

Additionally, sites such as Amazon had developed many faults and took a long time to load. All the above can now be history :). The other day i was just going over the Wikipedia page for the first time in quite a while.

I noticed within it there was a reference for the following website http://www.skweezer.net Using this site makes the I-Player stunningly fast with a vast number of problem sites.

It's still speedy, and doesn't jump about forever realigning itself,  if you decide to keep images on the desired pages.

The speed of loading up has to be seen to be believed. Amazon had a problem with any pages that contained lots of reviews.

It kept bouncing up to the top or down to the bottom when you tried to read the ones in the middle.

That is now no longer a factor when viewing through the Skweezer page. Anyway, it crossed my mind to check out Yahoo Mail.

Unbelievably, you can compose an email without any problem.

The text box is pure white with black text.

You can type at speed, no problem with delayed entry of the text Obviously you can open and read your post as well.

Both of the aforementioned are enough for me.

It may be possible to use other bits and bobs.

However, if not, so what.

The bread and butter is back on the table.  Good news or what?.

Another big bonus.... GOOGLE IMAGES displays via the service.

When one clicks on Google's link for the full-size picture Skweezer kindly loads the image even filling the TV screen where applicable. If such problematic sites such as Yahoo Mail, Amazon and Google Images are operable through this page, why is it such a obstacle for the I-Player to process them in the first place.

I presume that Skweezer is just a higher class of text-grabber?

It obviously strips out certain scripts and codes but still leaves lots of formatting tags in it's rendering of a page. Therefore, why can't the I-P have an automatic option appear upon detecting potential problems?.

Alternatively, let's have a button on the keyboard allowing us to view text only.

Whilst it would not remedy all the thing that Skweezer does (Yahoo Mail), it would improve it's performance in a lot of ways.

That's great news, howdou.

Maybe Netgem's future browsing capabilities lie in a software 'gateway' (such as the one you describe) rather than constant hardware updates.

Anyone at Netgem care to pay me for this excellent suggestion?

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 1:12pm : That's great news, howdou.

Maybe Netgem's future browsing capabilities lie in a software 'gateway' (such as the one you describe)

Howdou wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 1:31pm : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 1:12pm : That's great news, howdou.

Maybe Netgem's future browsing capabilities lie in a software 'gateway' (such as the one you describe)

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 2:38pm : Ah - maybe Netgem should pay us both  8-)

Wow this is great Howdou :) :) Yahoo works a treat And Google now displays images.

Superb 8-)

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 10:00pm : Wow this is great Howdou :) :) Yahoo works a treat And Google now displays images.

Superb 8-)

Howdou wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 11:52pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 10:00pm : Wow this is great Howdou :) :) Yahoo works a treat And Google now displays images.

Superb 8-)

Netgem should really be responsible for any gateway - because they will know the technical specs of the iPlayer browser.

Wow even better news for Yahoo and Yahoo mail users I don't know what i have done but i have manged to get the old style original Yahoo mail interface back (not Howdou's Link which is great) So now I can dowload my Jpeg attachments which don't work on the newer Yahoo email interface and the lay lout of the original email interaface is much better and easier to use.

When i get back from work.

I will figure out what I have down to get there.

It does have some thing to do with Howdou's Link but what i don't know :)

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 12:26am : Netgem should really be responsible for any gateway - because they will know the technical specs of the iPlayer browser.

Purple-bobby wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 11:01am : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 12:26am : Netgem should really be responsible for any gateway - because they will know the technical specs of the iPlayer browser.

You can even add favourites via Howdou's link  which means if you have to do a factory reset any  favourites stored via the link will still be there :)Not sure if signing up for account is free though!

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 9:11pm : You can even add favourites via Howdou's link  which means if you have to do a factory reset any  favourites stored via the link will still be there :)Not sure if signing up for account is free though!

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 10:58pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 9:11pm : You can even add favourites via Howdou's link  which means if you have to do a factory reset any  favourites stored via the link will still be there :)Not sure if signing up for account is free though!

What a marvelous discovery Howdou !

I've only tried a couple of sites via skweezer, and they seem to work where they did'nt before !

Thank you very much for sharing this with us, it's been added to the top of my list of favourite sites, as it may :D be used quite a lot.

Does any of "techy" members of the forum know how it works, and what it actually does ?

Frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 12:23am : What a marvelous discovery Howdou !

I've only tried a couple of sites via skweezer, and they seem to work where they did'nt before !

Thank you very much for sharing this with us, it's been added to the top of my list of favourite sites, as it may :D be used quite a lot.

Does any of "techy" members of the forum know how it works, and what it actually does ?

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 3 rd , 2006 at 11:20pm : ....the I-Failure doesn't complete the sign up which is only a few simple questions to complete Click the old submit button and a message at the bottom of the screen comes up 'SSL Negotiation Error' This damn STB pees me off at times.

This is one of them >:(

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 12:26am : It must be a similar concept to that applied on mobile phone browsers, e.g.

My SE W810i has a facility to make a web page more 'mobile friendly'.

Frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 12:23am : What a marvelous discovery Howdou !

I've only tried a couple of sites via skweezer, and they seem to work where they did'nt before !

Thank you very much for sharing this with us, it's been added to the top of my list of favourite sites, as it may :D be used quite a lot.

Does any of "techy" members of the forum know how it works, and what it actually does ?

Howdou wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 4:05am : frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 12:23am : What a marvelous discovery Howdou !

I've only tried a couple of sites via skweezer, and they seem to work where they did'nt before !

Thank you very much for sharing this with us, it's been added to the top of my list of favourite sites, as it may :D be used quite a lot.

Does any of "techy" members of the forum know how it works, and what it actually does ?

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:09am : It just get better and better!

Wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:27am : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:09am : It just get better and better!

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:49am : wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:27am : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:09am : It just get better and better!

Poor BigBoy. I hope you're listening to this Netgem!

You'll rue the day that iPlayer users weren't able to register for a free account!

Http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/ianmoticon/drevil-1.jpg

Ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:49am : wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:27am : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:09am : It just get better and better!

It is another reason why Netgem should be developing a program for this type of service for iPlayer/netbox users, even if they give the program to others to host/run the service.

Purple-bobby wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 12:33pm : It is another reason why Netgem should be developing a program for this type of service for iPlayer/netbox users, even if they give the program to others to host/run the service.

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:57am : Shame I-Players users can't sign up to the free account though :(

Frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 2:40pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:57am : Shame I-Players users can't sign up to the free account though :(

Wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:27am : ianmoticon wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:09am : It just get better and better!

You cannot have read the content of the permalink very far, howdou.

Some of the contributors maintain that the proprietors of this software are using others' website content - their intellectual property - stripping it of advertisements, adding their own advertisements and enjoying the revenue that flows from such actions.

Frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 2:40pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:57am : Shame I-Players users can't sign up to the free account though :(

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 5:35pm : frank59 wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 2:40pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 9:57am : Shame I-Players users can't sign up to the free account though :(

Even the contacts link produces the very same error.

:o

Surely, all the original content web-sites have to do is provide an alternative edition more suitable for a mobile phones or a PDA.

I'm sure that this is one of the purposes of HTML's link tag with the media attribute. Code: <link rel="alternate" media="tv,handheld" title="Small screen version" href="...">

Wrote on Aug 4 th , 2006 at 5:23pm : You cannot have read the content of the permalink very far, howdou.

Howdou wrote on Aug 5 th , 2006 at 1:32am : Surely the simple solution is for the site owners to make their sites accessible.

This would mean I-Player users (and mobile phone, low-grade browser users) would not be searching around for a method to view their sites.

Does it convert pdf files?

If not that would be usefull as well.

KimB wrote on Aug 5 th , 2006 at 8:43pm : Does it convert pdf files?

If not that would be usefull as well.

You've been doing extra homework Howdou !

Well done, you deserve an apple and extra sweets from the tuck shop  ;D

On another note, I registered with Skweezer via my PC, and had a few problems, first of all, it would'nt recognize my email addy, when it finally did, Firefox did'nt recognize the "certificate", I then decided to "accept" the unknown certificate to enroll, after that I was "in", is this a similar situation to what i-player users (ie.

Bigboyuk) are experiencing trying to register, and getting the "SSL authentication error" message ?

After registering, I had a quick look round the "directory", not much that you would'nt find in some of the larger internet portals around ie.

Yahoo, still, I'm not a man to grumble, the browser  conversion   the site uses is a godsend to i-player surfers, long may it continue  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Howdou wrote on Aug 2 nd , 2006 at 11:15am : I feel as if i've rediscovered the I-Player's Holy Grail. The other day i was just going over the Wikipedia page for the first time in quite a while.

I noticed within it there was a reference for the following website http://www.skweezer.net  Good news or what?.

Howdou wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 1:32am : KimB wrote on Aug 5 th , 2006 at 8:43pm : Does it convert pdf files?

If not that would be usefull as well.

KimB wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 11:28am : howdou wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 1:32am : KimB wrote on Aug 5 th , 2006 at 8:43pm : Does it convert pdf files?

If not that would be usefull as well.

Hmv.co.uk no allows 'Next' page(s) selections with no trouble as the 'Next' page link is now visible!!!

When selecting the 'Next' page scroll up to the search box and before the highlighter changes to green (there is enough time to do this)click the search box once this will then take you to the next page other wise the artist you were seaching for will be erased :)

Even over written text is a thing of the past Ask.co.uk being a prime example prehaps he has given up on the ole drink LOL :)

KimB wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 11:28am : howdou wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 1:32am : KimB wrote on Aug 5 th , 2006 at 8:43pm : Does it convert pdf files?

If not that would be usefull as well.

Re; Bigboy's last two links concerning HMV.co.uk and Ask.co.uk. The HMV site has been one of the biggest plus factors for me, as well as the many overwritten sites.

I'm getting giddy over new discoveries :) Too many too mention now.

It's easier if people check out sites themselves.

It's certainly not a perfect solution, however to battered and beleaugured I-P users it's been a fantastic boost. I just wish i could establish some form of contact with Netgem to ask them to look into creating, what to a computer programmer must be, a 'relatively' simple script.

I simply don't get any response from them about anything anymore, not even automated replies.

Ignore this little bit.

I accidentally duplicated a post.

No matter how hard i tried, and i did try hard.

Upon pressing the 'remove' link nothing happened.

Therefore, i need to type something in rather than leave a puzzling blank space.

So, Ho hum, ho hum ,whistle, whistle Fading whistle and last ho hum.

Howdou wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 7:53pm : howdou wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 7:50pm : Re;

Bigboy's last two links concerning HMV.co.uk and Ask.co.uk. The HMV site has been one of the biggest plus factors for me, as well as the many over written sites.

I'm getting giddy over new discoveries :) Too many to mention here.

It's easier if people check out sites themselves.

It's certainly not a perfect solution, however to battered and beleaugured I-P users it's been a fantastic boost. I just wish i could establish some form of contact with Netgem to ask them to look into creating, what to a computer programmer must be, a 'relatively' simple script.

I simply don't get any response from them about anything anymore, not even automated replies.

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 8:04pm : It's a real improvement some thing I-player users have been waiting for off Netgem.

But one member has really excelled and that member is Howdou.

So thanks again for alerting I-player users to this great site tht now has given the I-Player a new lease of life.

It's almost like have a software upgrade with out the bugs :)

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 5:44pm : Even over written text is a thing of the past Ask.co.uk being a prime example prehaps he has given up on the ole drink LOL :)

Wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 8:36pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 6 th , 2006 at 5:44pm : Even over written text is a thing of the past Ask.co.uk being a prime example prehaps he has given up on the ole drink LOL :)

On further investigation I-Player users can sign up on www.skweezer.net  Ignore the SSL Negotiation error  after trying to sign up click on the skweezer link at the top of the page in the middle and you shoud be logged in.

I PM'd some one on here to try and register me usng the details I already tried they PM'd me back saying when they tried on a Pc the message came back saying username and password is all ready in use please try another username and password.

When I visited skweezer this morning I was logged in so I logged out and re logged in again SSL error greeted me clicked on skweezer link at the top (in the middle) of the page and i was in.

Storing favourites is easy and getting to them is easy as well.

Cheers :)

Are you a geezer for skweezer?

In other words are you joining their forum ?

Wrote on Aug 7 th , 2006 at 10:56am : Are you a geezer for skweezer?

In other words are you joining their forum ?

I am sure that an influx of members of the Netgem i-clique, such as ianmoticon, frank59 etc,  would liven things up a bit ;)

Is there any actual advantage to signing up to the Skweezer site or can you just use the portal to access the web

Tom2u wrote on Aug 7 th , 2006 at 5:55pm : Is there any actual advantage to signing up to the Skweezer site or can you just use the portal to access the web

Come on you iPs (i-Plebs  :D )  show a bit of initiative, a bit of constructive experimentation!

Is there not email on there too?

Sign up, experiment and report back.

Wrote on Aug 7 th , 2006 at 6:06pm : Come on you iPs (i-Plebs  :D )  show a bit of initiative, a bit of constructive experimentation!

Is there not email on there too?

Sign up, experiment and report back.

On the email side of Skweezer you can only add a POP 3 account. veiwing messages (drop down menu) is only 2 choices unlimited or 5 messages, check email and compose.

So have you set up a skweezer email account and sent experimental emails from it to your other accounts and vice versa?

I do not mean you in particular but any of the iPlebs.

I am not surprised that PC owners are dominating this forum in the way that they did the Netgem one.

Man the barricadess iPlebbers!

This is class war!

:D

Wrote on Aug 7 th , 2006 at 7:37pm : So have you set up a skweezer email account and sent experimental emails from it to your other accounts and vice versa?

I do not mean you in particular but any of the iPlebs.

I am not surprised that PC owners are dominating this forum in the way that they did the Netgem one.

Man the barricadess iPlebbers!

This is class war!

:D

Wrote on Aug 7 th , 2006 at 5:43pm : I am sure that an influx of members of the Netgem i-clique, such as ianmoticon, frank59 etc,  would liven things up a bit ;)

For what it's worth I don't see how Skweezer are doing anything wrong with their simplifying proxy.

Bloggers complaining of copyright infirngement are just exposing their ignorance.

Complaining of loss of revenue is evidence of their lack of understanding of the service - if their advertising was in text form it would remain intact. In short, a bunch of already over-opinionated types (bloggers) spouting ill-informed wishful thinking without a thought for the people who benefit - their potential readers.

::)

Yes, I like the PIP and web view at the same time.

I agree the tight space on right is not ideal, you can adjust but it all falls apart a bit when you start to adjust back and forth (using red and blue buttons). I also would like to able to still use my portal but would like the bottom half of screen (the yellow area) to be the browsing area so you get the full width half height browsing.

Would be nice to click one of hyperlinks and bottom half of screen to change into browse area, leaving TV picture as is.

Perhaps the first row of links to be replaced with a URL bar.

My web creation skills not up to this though me thinks. Any web coding gurus out there? Cheers

It's a great idea but needs attention Web browsing only allows the top half of a web page and you can't scroll down to the bottom of a web page where you might need to click on something :)

Sipart wrote on Aug 9 th , 2006 at 10:18pm : Yes, I like the PIP and web view at the same time.

I agree the tight space on right is not ideal, you can adjust but it all falls apart a bit when you start to adjust back and forth (using red and blue buttons). I also would like to able to still use my portal but would like the bottom half of screen (the yellow area) to be the browsing area so you get the full width half height browsing.

Would be nice to click one of hyperlinks and bottom half of screen to change into browse area, leaving TV picture as is.

Perhaps the first row of links to be replaced with a URL bar.

My web creation skills not up to this though me thinks. Any web coding gurus out there? Cheers

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 9 th , 2006 at 10:52pm : It's a great idea but needs attention Web browsing only allows the top half of a web page and you can't scroll down to the bottom of a web page where you might need to click on something :)

Howdou wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 1:01am : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 9 th , 2006 at 10:52pm : It's a great idea but needs attention Web browsing only allows the top half of a web page and you can't scroll down to the bottom of a web page where you might need to click on something :)

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 9:30am : No Howdou Iam refering to the Excellent PIP portal you posted about Go on it and put Skweezer.net then in skweezer's portal put www.yahoo.co.uk and try and scroll down to the bottom of the page.

:)

Howdou wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 10:18am : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 9:30am : No Howdou Iam refering to the Excellent PIP portal you posted about Go on it and put Skweezer.net then in skweezer's portal put www.yahoo.co.uk and try and scroll down to the bottom of the page.

:)

The Portal you should probably use is http://yarrow.homeip.net/iplayer/web/newindex.html A few web pages specifically designed for the iplayer I created are here: http://yarrow.homeip.net I think the TV guides are particularly cool!

:) You can view the source of the web pages to see the javascript I used.

There's still some issues with it , but it was good enough for me. Details of how to script are here:- http://yarrow.homeip.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NetgemHtmlScripting

Feel free to rip off http://www.purple-bobby.co.uk/i-p/inetport.html

Purple-bobby wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 1:34pm : Feel free to rip off http://www.purple-bobby.co.uk/i-p/inetport.html

One might be www.google.com and the other www.google.co.uk I couldn't see a video link on either.

Purple-bobby wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 5:49pm : One might be www.google.com and the other www.google.co.uk I couldn't see a video link on either.

When on Bobby's portal and you select the video link everything is there a brief description of the video clip and the length of time it runs so you select the thumb nail when the page loads very briefly the inks are visible (not saying they will play) as the links dissapear again ALT+b briefly brings the links back again then they go off screen again.

Is this bad programming on Google's part again?

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 5:30pm : purple-bobby wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 1:34pm : Feel free to rip off http://www.purple-bobby.co.uk/i-p/inetport.html

Wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 7:26pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 5:30pm : purple-bobby wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 1:34pm : Feel free to rip off http://www.purple-bobby.co.uk/i-p/inetport.html

Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 7:38pm : wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 7:26pm : Bigboyuk wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 5:30pm : purple-bobby wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 1:34pm : Feel free to rip off http://www.purple-bobby.co.uk/i-p/inetport.html

Howdou wrote on Aug 9 th , 2006 at 9:07pm : Excellent PIP Portal The page was designed by a forum (ex?)member on the Netgem forum.

I'll have to search the posts to find his name, i think i know who it was.

However, i'll check first.

Westendred wrote on Aug 10 th , 2006 at 11:51am : the Portal you should probably use is http://yarrow.homeip.net/iplayer/web/newindex.html A few web pages specifically designed for the iplayer I created are here: http://yarrow.homeip.net I think the TV guides are particularly cool!

:) You can view the source of the web pages to see the javascript I used.

There's still some issues with it , but it was good enough for me. Details of how to script are here:- http://yarrow.homeip.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NetgemHtmlScripting

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere on this forum (possibly by BB), but if not, hereth follows (or followth) a newsflash. The YAHOO Mail interface is once again fully functional.

It's only slightly slower than Skweezer.

So far i've tried deleting and sending messages and navigating through my various folders. It can't be a coincidence that many of us have recently contacted Yahoo over the problems that appeared.

So, thanks to one and all who took the time to email them.

Howdou wrote on Aug 23 rd , 2006 at 7:42pm : I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere on this forum (possibly by BB), but if not, hereth follows (or followth) a newsflash. The YAHOO Mail interface is once again fully functional.

It's only slightly slower than Skweezer.

So far i've tried deleting and sending messages and navigating through my various folders. It can't be a coincidence that many of us have recently contacted Yahoo over the problems that appeared.

So, thanks to one and all who took the time to email them.

Howdou wrote on Aug 23 rd , 2006 at 7:42pm : I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere on this forum (possibly by BB), but if not, hereth follows (or followth) a newsflash. The YAHOO Mail interface is once again fully functional.

It's only slightly slower than Skweezer.

So far i've tried deleting and sending messages and navigating through my various folders. It can't be a coincidence that many of us have recently contacted Yahoo over the problems that appeared.

So, thanks to one and all who took the time to email them.

Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft are all trying build and exploit a niche market for themselves. Currently: Google - search Microsoft - software (Office, Windows) Yahoo - portals Furture (who knows): Google - browser accessible remote applications (software) Microsoft - search and directed advertising Yahoo - portals Ref: Dr.

Dobb's Journal Issue No.

388 September 2006 www.ddj.com

Purple-bobby wrote on Aug 23 rd , 2006 at 9:11pm : Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft are all trying build and exploit a niche market for themselves. Currently: Google - search Microsoft - software (Office, Windows) Yahoo - portals Furture (who knows): Google - browser accessible remote applications (software) Microsoft - search and directed advertising Yahoo - portals Ref: Dr.

Dobb's Journal Issue No.

388 September 2006 www.ddj.com

This may be of passing interest to iPlayer users:   Skweezer®

Wrote on Aug 27 th , 2006 at 9:43pm : This may be of passing interest to iPlayer users:   Skweezer®

Frank59 wrote on Aug 28 th , 2006 at 4:04am : wrote on Aug 27 th , 2006 at 9:43pm : This may be of passing interest to iPlayer users:   Skweezer®