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Football/soccer growing in the US? - Web Hosting Talk
Is football/soccer booming in the US?
From Europe it might look like a little boom.
Several youngsters are coming out of the US and getting contracts in big Europeen clubs.
And Freddy Adu.
People that live in the US, do you feel changes?
Does they talk more about soccer on television, in newspapers, etc ?
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Is football/soccer booming in the US?
From Europe it might look like a little boom.
Several youngsters are coming out of the US and getting contracts in big Europeen clubs.
And Freddy Adu.
People that live in the US, do you feel changes?
Does they talk more about soccer on television, in newspapers, etc ?
Some things to know -
For kids 14 and under in the US, football is the second most participated sport in the country behind basketball.
Many many people in America like to play it but supporter numbers are less proportionally wise compared to other leading sports in the states.
Freddy Adu is a very good prospect but give himt time, he'll be playing for DC United for a few seasons yet i'd expect.
MLS is growing in quality and in the number of clubs and Tim Howard has shown that with an elite few they can come ove to Europe and hold their own in the top flight.
Now i don't know about coverage in newspapers in the states for the MLS but Freddy Adu jhas had a lot of exposure and there is a dedicated football show for the MLS/world footie on Fox Sports with Sean Whealock.
The English Premiership also get heavy coverage in the states with up to 5 or 6 games screened each week live.
Critic,
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I think it's been big here for quite a while - it just seems to die out at the professional level.
We did get to sponsor the hosting of a kids soccer team this year for the first time though, so I suppose that was different.
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It will only help the popularity the fact that many if the biggest European clubs are very often touring the United States for pre-season.
Manchester United were there a year or so ago and Liverpool are also going this summer apparently.
I have heard that Real Madrid have also done a tour of the US.
I hope it continues to grow, the United States soccer team are extremely good, its a real shame that the people in the US do not seem to appreciate them very much.
I have heard they all get more stick for playing a so called "womens game" then praise for being the 11th best team in the world according to official Fifa rankings....
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It's growing in Canda too.
It's been coming for a while though..
The boom started around the world cup in '94, and progressed nicely.
Canada's most famous footballing export is Owen Hargreaves..
Although he don's the 3 lions, he is also Canadian, born and Bred (I think his mother was English).
Simon
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It's growing in Canda too.
Lol, thats only because your Hockey team are under threat from the likes of Russia
Seriously though, Canada have had some great players in the past, the name of one is on the tip of my tounge, I just can't remember it lol.
He played during the 90's and was awsome in my opinion.
If I remember it, ill post it
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I agree that the US/Canadian game is growing and has potential but i do have a couple of issues with the American way of doing things that just can't exist in game IMO.
These are as follows:
Franchises are a real No No in football, teams don't move states or cities.
There is a referee and an assistant referee [linesman];
The only reason i say this one is because i heard an American go on about line judges in football a couple of weeks back.
It made me laugh.
football clubs get relegated, i say this as in the MLS, this doesn't happen at the minute.
Now this is one of my main ones, the team that finishes top at the end of the season are the champions, i say this as in MLS you have this whole play offs setup afterward also that determines this also if i'm not mistaken.
You've gotta get some chanting going, bit of banta, i've heard that you get enough fans in some grounds but sometimes they could be a bit louder.
Well that's all of them, if i am wrong or mistaken do of course put me right, don't want to have any misconceptions here do i now.
Thanks
Sash!, yeah you're right there, the champions world tour is happening again this summer;
Manchester United are gong again, Chelsea are tagging along too, Liverpool are going as well as Celtic and Glasgow Rangers, AC Milan, AS Roma and Bayern Munich.
Link i found :: http://www.tickco.com/sports_soccer_...ns_us_tour.htm
Manchester United Vs AC Milan looks a big match for a friendly.
akashik, well the USA team did well in the World Cup in S Korea/Japan in 2002, got past the groups stages..
Critic,
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He played during the 90's and was awsome in my opinion.
Craig forrest?
Simon
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Craig forrest?
Simon No, it wasnt him, he had a sort of foreign sounding names
Was he not the goalkeeper who managed to concede 7 against Manchester United in one match a few years back whilst playing for West Ham?
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Quote: : No, it wasnt him, he had a sort of foreign sounding names Isn't Paul Peschisolido Canadian?
Critic,
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Now this is one of my main ones, the team that finishes top at the end of the season are the champions, i say this as in MLS you have this whole play offs setup afterward also that determines this also if i'm not mistaken.
That's not likely to change in any USA-based league.
Playoffs in every pro sport are the real moneymakers -- a team that makes the playoffs stands to make millions (as do the owners of their arena, local governments from taxes, local businesses, etc.), and no sport league is likely to pass on the opportunity.
Playoffs also tend to bring a wider audience -- for example the NHL and NBA (hockey and basketball) playoffs right now are bringing people to the TV screens from outside the areas the respective teams are from to a lot greater extent than any regular season contest would.
Oh yeah, that means that TV networks are making big money, too.
No pro sport is going to go anywhere in the US without a national TV contract, so any sport that hopes to succeed here has to compromise some things for the sake of the networks.
Franchises moving and the like?
Sorry, not much chance of avoiding that in a US-based league.
The only way would be for the league itself to own all of the teams, which isn't likely.
Individual team owners here will always have the right to move or sell their teams -- a league wouldn't be able to forbid that because of antitrust laws.
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Isn't Paul Peschisolido Canadian?
Critic, No, the name Balboa seems to be stuck in my head....
Eddie Pope was good for Canada too
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I'll add on a couple things already mentioned..
That it is very popular to PLAY.
From little kids through high school, here in Texas, it is a huge sport.
Then the fact that there isn't much interest in college or high school soccer from a spectator sport perspective isn't a big deal.
In the US college baseball and hockey aren't popular and get little coverage although they are very popular spectator sports professionally.
Only football(the one played with the ball that's not round ) and basketball are popular spectator-wise collegiately.
In my opinion as far as playing growing up soccer is as popular as any sport..but as far as a spectator sport it isn't and probably won't ever be that popular in the US.
It doesn't translate well to TV and in my opinion not as fun to watch in person either as American football, basketball, or hockey.
Soccer and baseball I have no interest in.
I see American football and soccer as similar in that way.
If a sport is relatively new or not considered big time from the start, and it introduced later, I can see how it would be hard to get into..but if you grow up with the sports and they are big from the start, then in that area, it will be big.
American football is my favorite sport and I grew up playing it(Texas IS the heart of football country), but if I sit back and think about it I can see how someone new to it wouldn't see the appeal, as I don't see the appeal in soccer.
American football is BY FAR the most complicated sport I know of, especially to play, which probably doesn't help.
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That's not likely to change in any USA-based league.
Playoffs in every pro sport are the real moneymakers -- a team that makes the playoffs stands to make millions (as do the owners of their arena, local governments from taxes, local businesses, etc.), and no sport league is likely to pass on the opportunity.
Playoffs also tend to bring a wider audience -- for example the NHL and NBA (hockey and basketball) playoffs right now are bringing people to the TV screens from outside the areas the respective teams are from to a lot greater extent than any regular season contest would.
Oh yeah, that means that TV networks are making big money, too.
No pro sport is going to go anywhere in the US without a national TV contract, so any sport that hopes to succeed here has to compromise some things for the sake of the networks.
Franchises moving and the like?
Sorry, not much chance of avoiding that in a US-based league.
The only way would be for the league itself to own all of the teams, which isn't likely.
Individual team owners here will always have the right to move or sell their teams -- a league wouldn't be able to forbid that because of antitrust laws.
Yeah i see where you're coming from when it comes to how thigs are with the NBA, NHL and MLB i guess too, however football is a global game with FIFA being at the top and then the continental type organisations next and then the National ones.
Everywhere else that i know of has a League where at the end of the season the club that finishes top are the Chamions.
It doesn't seem to make sense to me that you would compete for months in a league system and then the team that is 1st still has to compete afterward for the trophy with lesser teams.
Anyway you also have to remember that there is a Champions League for the leading club sides on the continent that is a big money earner if that is what you're looking for not to mention thae prestige and recognition and the effect on the winning club.
On the franchises, well not only are FIFA or most football fans are against it but you can't just move a football club hundreds of miles or something or that is how i see it anyway.
There are many individual football club owners here in Britain and all over, one well known is Roman Abramovic of Chelsea, in the past exvept in one case franchise football has not occurred and if you sell then you sell to someone willing to run Chicago Fire in Chicago for instance.
If for football to go big in the states it means there is going to be franchises all over the place then maybe America or i'm not ready yet.
Shame really
Either way i'll still keep a tab on the MLS and CONCECAF footie via my weekly radio show.
Critic,
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How exactly does the sport work in Europe?
What's the difference between a sports "franchise" here and a "club" or whatever you call them there?
I have no idea how it really works over there since it's apparently different than here.
It baffles me to not have playoffs also, I don't see a regular season as being a good way to determine a champion.
The team with the best record over a regular season to me is no proof that they are the best.
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